xxx-http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28754&cpage=1#comment-115331

Is she high again? She's been saying that forever.




and a gazillion other times.

Berg's original article, in addition to saying Obama's SSN is valid, says that Obama has never used Ludwig's SSN.

Although Taitz is not mentioned by name, Taitz assumed Berg was accusing her of authoring the Ludwig claim.

I don't think Taitz has expressly said that Obama used Ludwig's SSN.

Instead, Taitz has published a letter from one her minions who did say that Obama used Ludwig's SSN. And now Taitz is claiming some obot wrote that letter.

If she didn't believe Doak said it, why did she publish it as if were really Doak's letter? The title that she added to the post xxxhttp://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=21306 is

At least he understands the concept of redacting SSNs before posting them. That's a step up on Orly....

Ahem...



It's like when Ed Hale put up a disclaimer that said he knew he was posting crap and he didn't care. It's all about keeping the idjiots riled up by throwing red meat at them every day.

If she didn't believe Doak said it, the headline should have been "A LETTER ALLEGEDLY FROM MR. DOAK, WRITTEN BY TREASONOUS OBOTS TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD".

The birfer wars heat up...

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28872

from Licensed investigator Susan Daniels: “Berg is a liar”

Posted on | December 11, 2011 | No Comments



I love it. Daniels telling anyone they need to get their facts straight.

Fun times.

Ms Daniels has discovered and admits thousands of "CT SSN's" were issued to Hawaii residents in the same period as Pres. Obama's was issued? Can she or Orly or anybody then still legitimately claim there is something unusual or nefarious about Pres Obama having a "CT SSN"?

This is fucking golden! Somebody get a screen shot of that before one of them wakes up and takes it down.

Not certain, but I think she was quoting Berg there.

I agree. That's how I read it also. Too.

+ the "oh drats" smiley!

She is arguing against Berg's assertion and while there are plenty of SSN's from Hawaii with CT 'numbers' they appear to be early ones (no surprise here as the people have passed away). Berg was asserting that contemporaneous with Obama getting his SSN, others in HI were granted CT SSN's as well.

Now Daniels has her own troubles but she has a valid point here.

Yes, but Daniels also agrees that she looked up several of the 042- numbers, and they were issued to Hawai'ians in the '50's. Makes an outsider think that there could be a likelihood that maybe 042- was the prefix SSA used for Hawai'i for quite some time spanning at least from the early '50's (possibly even mid-'30's) to the mid-'70's.

Mystery solved, courtesy of idiots Phil Berg, Esq. and Susan Daniels.

If only, like the birthers, we had our own unethical private investigator, we could illegally investigate others' SSNs and see for ourselves.

So I haz a confuzal in regard to getting facts straight, if Hawaii didn’t become a state until 1959 why would it be issuing Hawaiian residents SSN’s between 1935 and 1951?

As a US Territory.

Maybe since Hawai'i wasn't even a state, SSA overlapped a state's prefix (since they really never mattered anyway) for Hawai'ians.

Neither Hawaii nor Connecticut were issuing SSNs. The SSA was.

Even we forget! Hawaii became a territory in 1900. The Social Security Act passed in 1935 and the first social security numbers were issued starting in Nov 1936. The SSA has a website of its history with all kinds of nooks and crannies worth exploring on a snowy day, including the Supreme Court decisions that found SS constitutional. Originally, the first 3 digits were assigned geographically, but they aren't any longer and the SSA even states it's not a problem if your number doesn't match where you lived when your number was issued.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/

I am pretty sure there were a large number of American citizens in Hawaii in those years before statehood who would apply for SS#'s just as other citizens overseas would apply for SS# for their children. It is unclear what the process for assigning those numbers would be.

One of the idiots over at Citizen Wells' blog may or may not have happened upon a mistake that Berg made:

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2011/ ... ent-219863



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Now, I haven't tried this myself, but it would be lovely if we have another case of one idiot birfer debunking another...

Well, let's not be too hard on Berg.

"Obama is not using a fraudulent SS#" is the first thing in birfistan Phil has been right about... albeit apparently for the wrong reason.

Berg is wrong when he states:



There are 500 records in the death index for "last residence" Hawaii and issued by "Connecticut". (Even Ancestry.com screws this up. SSN's are not issued by states). However if you enter "last residence" Hawaii and "issued by" California for example you get 13,262 hits. For NY the number of records is 4,435. The only thing Berg proved is that 500 people who applied for a SSN with a Connecticut zip (or was read that way by the data processor) died while living in Hawaii. This continues the long history of shoddy Birther research.

Wait what? So it's our fault that birthers have been making the claim that Obama stole Ludwig's social? I've heard this shit over and over out of birthers saying Obama stole a dead man's social and then when asked to name the dead man Ludwig's name is said. Taitz lies as usual she spread this rumor.

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I think she gives it a possible explanation for his 'Connecticut' fraudulently obtained SS# along with the dead babies and the hundreds of SS#'s that Bill Ayers wrote about in his memoirs of his Weatherman days. That is what is so strange. She does not stick to one baseless speculation, but incorporates a variety.
For most people, that would indicate she has not one smidgen of evidence to back up any of the claims. She simply excludes any speculation that it was an error on the part of the SSA or that they had other legitimate reasons for issuing him that number with that prefix. Nor does she include the fact that she and other published his SS# across the internet making it impossible for him to use it any longer. This is evident in all her pleadings and exhibits as she continues to broadcast that number at every opportunity. No, for O'rly, the ONLY possibility is FRAUD.


Hey, Birthers, let's have your SS# and birth date and put it out there for everyone on the web to see. What do you think would happen,eh?