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My scorecard got soaked when the boat turned over. So are there now 3 different challenges in Georgia? And if so, why doesn't Carl Swensson organize a group strategy? So many questions.

Who is davidfarrar when he's not ex animo? How did he get Orly on board, and what size dental chair does he use? Is Zeb doing one in Georgia while he simultaneously helps New Hampshire? Is Kevin Powell any of the above? Who put the ape in apricot? What do they got that I ain't got?

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At that time, ethnographic and cultural intelligence was used in a classified U.S. intelligence program created in 1964, called Project CAMELOT. The use of anthropologists was supported through grants laundered by the Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie Foundations. Most of Stanley Ann's activities under USAID in Java were funded by the Ford Foundation."

Project Camelot is worth knowing about because something like it might be tried again. The Army (and perhaps other agencies) sought in 1964 to enlist sociologists, anthropologists, political scientists, psychologists, and other social scientists in a project portrayed as an effort to understand what makes a democracy stable. With these findings the United States could seek to strengthen Latin American democracies by contributing to those forces for stability. Building up a middle class and creating independent judiciaries were among the actions envisioned. A small number of well-respected social scientists signed up for the project. For the most part, these academics were liberal anti-Communists who strongly favored the idea of strengthening democracies in Latin America.

Then people began to realize that the purpose of the project could easily be turned on its head: what can make a democracy unstable? At that time there were emerging democracies and quasi-democracies in Latin America that scared the U.S. in the aftermath of the Cuban Revolution. Chile was to be the site of the first project, and in the 1970s the U.S. moved to overturn the results of a democratic election (Allende) -- by coup rather than by employing what Project Camelot might have discovered.

Army funding was concealed but not by those private foundations. The Special Operations Research Organization, which had a very loose affiliation with the American University in Washington, provided the cover. Johan Galtung of Norway was instrumental in exposing the Army funding of what appeared to most prospective researchers to be an academically-based research program of some merit.

Project Camelot was never classified, although its funding was indeed hidden. The project never got off the ground; Congressional hearings killed it in 1965. The reputations of some very good social scientists were badly smudged, and for a period all social science research conducted in Latin America was suspect. Some governments made it impossible for American social scientists to work in their countries. Even the empirical methods of American social science were rejected in favor of a Leninist "Who needs facts when you know the truth?"

It is the case that private foundation funding and secret CIA funding supported several other projects at American universities, most notably MIT. Some of the universities that received such funding insisted that the results of the research could never be censored, much less withheld, at the direction of the CIA. Some did not do so. Today, many leading research universities will not undertake classified research under any circumstances.

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Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. has signed onto the case as lead counsel.
I guess Orly will be operating once again pro hack visa without local backing.....

Orly has perfect standing in Georgia after Judge Land went and particularized twenty freakin' thousand dollars of injury up her butt.

Plus, in Georgia now, she gets every birther's dream -- Rule 11 Discovery! 8>
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She is just a professional hack with a visa.

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My scorecard got soaked when the boat turned over. So are there now 3 different challenges in Georgia? And if so, why doesn't Carl Swensson organize a group strategy? So many questions.


Hasn't Swensson snitched out and put behind bars anyone who would have organized with him?

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I am curious to see if Orly is allowed to represent Farrar. Orly received quite a bit of press in GA during the Cook and Rhodes cases; I wouldn't be surprised if the Judge did not grant Orly permission to act as counsel for Farrar.

That would lead to a circus worth watching!!

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I am curious to see if Orly is allowed to represent Farrar. Orly received quite a bit of press in GA during the Cook and Rhodes cases; I wouldn't be surprised if the Judge did not grant Orly permission to act as counsel for Farrar.

That would lead to a circus worth watching!!


It's an administrative hearing (if there is one) not in court, AFAIK, so they may not care who "represents" what or whom.

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Orly has been granted pro hac vice.

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ORDER ON MOTION FOR ADMISSION PRO HAC VICE
Applicant Orly Taitz, an attorney admitted to practice in the court of record of California
has made application with this Court for admission pro hac vice. The unopposed application is
granted. Ms. Orly Taitz may appear before this Court to represent the Plaintiff.
SO ORDERED, this the 29th day of November, 2011.


xxhttp://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Order-on-Motion-for-Admission-Pro-Hac-Vice1.pdf

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WND: Ballots with Obama's name facing more legal challenges

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Poor judge doesn't know what he's let himself in for.


Or maybe he does...

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Today deputy Chief administrative judge of GA granted my motion for pro hac vice

I was granted a right to represent clients at a trial regarding

Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot in GA. This case is going to trial [Heard that before!]

Lead plaintiff is David Farrar, retired employee of the court. Obama is represented by a private attorney Michael Jablonski. As a candidate he cannot use the department of justice to represent him. He has to pay private attorneys.

xxx-http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28432

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Today deputy Chief administrative judge of GA granted my motion for pro hac vice

I was granted a right to represent clients at a trial regarding

Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot in GA. This case is going to trial [Heard that before!]

Lead plaintiff is David Farrar, retired employee of the court. Obama is represented by a private attorney Michael Jablonski. As a candidate he cannot use the department of justice to represent him. He has to pay private attorneys.

xxx-http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28432


Well, O'rly when this case is decided, Obama and his lawyers can ask for court costs and lawyers fees. We can always hope for sanctions as well.

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I noticed that whenever Orly's cases get to the DC circuit, Judge Lamberth (as chief judge) ends up with her. Possible that she'll end up crossing paths with the Hon. Judge Land?

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I noticed that whenever Orly's cases get to the DC circuit, Judge Lamberth (as chief judge) ends up with her. Possible that she'll end up crossing paths with the Hon. Judge Land?

No. Judge Land is a federal judge. This is a state action.

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I noticed that whenever Orly's cases get to the DC circuit, Judge Lamberth (as chief judge) ends up with her. Possible that she'll end up crossing paths with the Hon. Judge Land?

No. Judge Land is a federal judge. This is a state action.


Ah. I did not process those facts.

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bob wrote:
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I noticed that whenever Orly's cases get to the DC circuit, Judge Lamberth (as chief judge) ends up with her. Possible that she'll end up crossing paths with the Hon. Judge Land?

No. Judge Land is a federal judge. This is a state action.


But you know that it's going to end up in fed court...

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I noticed that whenever Orly's cases get to the DC circuit, Judge Lamberth (as chief judge) ends up with her. Possible that she'll end up crossing paths with the Hon. Judge Land?

No. Judge Land is a federal judge. This is a state action.

But you know that it's going to end up in fed court...

While of course anyone can file anything anywhere, that's a sure-bang loser.

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Today deputy Chief administrative judge of GA granted my motion for pro hac vice

I was granted a right to represent clients at a trial regarding

Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot in GA. This case is going to trial [Heard that before!]

Lead plaintiff is David Farrar, retired employee of the court. Obama is represented by a private attorney Michael Jablonski. As a candidate he cannot use the department of justice to represent him. He has to pay private attorneys.

xxx-http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28432


doesn't a local lawyer have to sponsor her?

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Today deputy Chief administrative judge of GA granted my motion for pro hac vice

I was granted a right to represent clients at a trial regarding

Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot in GA. This case is going to trial [Heard that before!]

Lead plaintiff is David Farrar, retired employee of the court. Obama is represented by a private attorney Michael Jablonski. As a candidate he cannot use the department of justice to represent him. He has to pay private attorneys.

xxx-http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28432

Isn't it that while he is using a "private" lawyer, eg non-government, he will not pay this personally but the costs will be carried by the election committee?


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Orly Taitz is going up against Michael Jablonski. No wonder the motion for pro hac vice was "unopposed."

She has no idea what she's in for.

This will be excellent.

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doesn't a local lawyer have to sponsor her?


This is an administrative board, not a court of law. I've not read their rules re phv, but as with most administrative bodies I suspect their rules are more lax and certainly different than what the courts would require.

If Orly, by stating, "this case is going to court" thinks the administrative admission of pro hac vice grants her the right to appear before the courts, I think she'll be disappointed. Although, I have no idea what the state court requirements in GA are. She might be able to be admitted there without a sponsor, but it would be unusual in my experience. Once publicity hits and folks are "reminded" about Orly's las appearance there, I doubt any legitimate attorney will touch her.

Just my .02. OMMV

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As someone who appeared for six years on a pro hac status in the state courts of Georgia, I can state that (1) a local sponsor is required and (2) the local attorney is on the pleadings (although s/he does not have to sign the pleadings).

No one with a reputation to protect will agree to sponsor Orly.

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It looks like I made a mistake as to the challenge deadline. I'd been looking at the relevant statute in my codebook and cutting-and-pasting it from Justia; I'd failed to look it up on Lexis or check the pocketpart.

And guess what: the legislature revised the deadline statute effective four months ago. Now instead of "November 1" it says "on a date set by the Secretary of State." It looks like the Secretary of State also put out a press release a couple of weeks ago setting the deadline as November 15.

So I may be wrong, and these challenges may not be unacceptably late. However, there's still no showing that they were actually *filed* by the deadline (Kemp's, in particular, looks like it was just e-mailed), and neither of them actually cite the statute.

Plus, regardless of how many challenges are filed, my gut tells me that the court is not going to hold multiple hearings on the same candidate.

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Orly Taitz is going up against Michael Jablonski. No wonder the motion for pro hac vice was "unopposed."

She has no idea what she's in for.

This will be excellent.


Something tells me you know much much more than you are willing to let out right now....PM is a wonderful thing. Enquiring minds want to know....please please

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Orly Taitz is going up against Michael Jablonski. No wonder the motion for pro hac vice was "unopposed."

She has no idea what she's in for.

This will be excellent.


Hmm...

"Jablonski's principal expertise is in the area of debate, where he has worked with Roy Barnes, Jimmy Carter, Andrew Young and others."

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