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 Post subject: Ex-Con Terry Lakin
PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:57 am 
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What they can do, will do and what will effect him most is ignore this silly self published book. Any actions against him because of this book will ONLY result in the word getting out to even more Birfers and will result in more money for him. WND would be pushing the headline about the Army censoring this guy etc. It's NOT worth it for the Service. Not worth it at all. Ignore the man.


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THIS. This moron has dumped $2 million and anything resembling a reputation in pursuit of the most idiotic conspiracy theory in history. He has basically destroyed his life for the pathetic admiration of the most ignorant people on the planet.

Let him slowly realize that he threw his life away and became a convict for NOTHING. Not even negative attention.

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Not all forms of being a jerk should be punishable by law.


And we're all thankful for that, ain't we? ;)
I'd be looking at some serious hard time if jerkery were a felony

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On edit, "Jerkery" may be taken the wrong way, I didn't mean it to refer to, well, Oh nevermind

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REALISTICALLY FOLKS...

The main pillars of military justice is taking time, money, extra duty, and restriction to a certain area.

You can't take his money - he doesn't get paid. You can't take something that isn't there (and he has a wife and kids)
You can't make him perform any extra duty - he is not getting paid and has had is credentials pulled by the Sturgeon General. O-5s DO NOT mop floors (unless he is in his "inmate phase").

You can restrict him from certain areas. He has hospital/clinic support for him and his family, so you can't ban him from the base. You can have him escorted to certain places that he is authorized to go.

He's already lost about $2 mil on the worst odds in Vegas history.

About the only thing any one can do to him in a practical sense is BEND HIS ID CARD several times.

Hey, I'm for getting rid of the Blue Faclon at the first possible oppotunity.

:arrow: Frustrating, isn't it :?: :!:

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What they can do, will do and what will effect him most is ignore this silly self published book. Any actions against him because of this book will ONLY result in the word getting out to even more Birfers and will result in more money for him. WND would be pushing the headline about the Army censoring this guy etc. It's NOT worth it for the Service. Not worth it at all. Ignore the man.

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Mr Lakin is no longer in the Army according to ORYR
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/11/terry-lakins-discharge-is-complete.html

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Terry's Discharge Complete: He speaks out openly for the first time in 2 years
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Monday at 3:00 PM US Eastern on Officer's Oath: The Terry Lakin Radio Show, we host an interview with Terry Lakin and Jack Cashill.
This will be our first discussion with Terry after his formal discharge.
He is ready to share many of his thoughts and concerns that he has been unable to discuss while still in the service.

If he starts saying that he was right all along and the court martial was wrong, can the army take action against him for, say, perjury?
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Formal discharge?

No.

Dismissal.

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Formal discharge?

No.

Dismissal.


Known commonly as "Cashiering" an officer. You are correct. He was never discharged. He has zero benefits and cannot wear the uniform or mention his rank like Cordwood always makes sure of.

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COL Cave has a new blog post up on Mr. Lakin. http://court-martial-ucmj.com/up-perisc ... in-update/

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The Terry Lakin action fund is reporting that Mr. Lakin’s dismissal has been approved and ordered executed.

If correct he is now Mr. Lakin. Unlike a retiree who retains her commission, or an honorably discharged officer who may use the honorific, one who is dismissed by court-martial loses the privileges of rank, including being addressed by her rank.

Query, if he continues to refer to himself as a lieutenant colonel, and gains money from the use of the title, does he violate the Stolen Valor Act? The current act is before the Supreme Court in United States v. Alvarez, No. 11-210. I’ve linked to SCOTUSBlog so you can read all the materials if desired. But the Congress has before it the Stolen Valor Act of 2011.

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Whoever, with intent to obtain anything of value, knowingly makes a misrepresentation regarding his or her military service . . .



I think I might check out the Lakin interview this afternoon.

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COL Cave has a new blog post up on Mr. Lakin. http://court-martial-ucmj.com/up-perisc ... in-update/

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The Terry Lakin action fund is reporting that Mr. Lakin’s dismissal has been approved and ordered executed.

If correct he is now Mr. Lakin. Unlike a retiree who retains her commission, or an honorably discharged officer who may use the honorific, one who is dismissed by court-martial loses the privileges of rank, including being addressed by her rank.

Query, if he continues to refer to himself as a lieutenant colonel, and gains money from the use of the title, does he violate the Stolen Valor Act? The current act is before the Supreme Court in United States v. Alvarez, No. 11-210. I’ve linked to SCOTUSBlog so you can read all the materials if desired. But the Congress has before it the Stolen Valor Act of 2011.

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Whoever, with intent to obtain anything of value, knowingly makes a misrepresentation regarding his or her military service . . .



I think I might check out the Lakin interview this afternoon.


It is called Impersonating an Officer of the United States and fraud.

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I listened to most of the Lakin interview with Ciavolino and Cashill. What a bunch of despicable liars. [-X Lakin still thinks he was upholding his oath. (He conveniently forgot that he had admitted at his court martial that he new his orders were legal.) He says Obama has never released a "validated" birth certificate. Lakin said he was asked to take an MRI to see if he had a brain disorder but refused. He whined about being led in shackles through National Airport. One of the others asked Lakin if there was a bias in the military against him. He said yes, there was a group of officers who thought he should obey orders and move on.

The bottom line is that Lakin still thinks he did nothing wrong and that he is a patriot who was trying to uphold the Constitution. #-o

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Lots of new info on Lakin's book:

Pricing:

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You can pre-order the book today for delivery Mid-January or earlier.

There are three options:

Retail Copy: $21.95 + $7 shipping and handling
Signed Copy: $50 + $7 shipping and handling
Personalized message: $100 + $7 shipping and handling


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The book will be published by Intermedia Publishing Group on Terry's behalf. The publication date is tentatively set for early January, 2012.


Detailed Contents:

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Prologue

Book: Terry Lakin with Jack Cashill

1. 27 April, 2011
2. Are you still free?
3. Never Give Up
4. You Knew My Path
5. Something to Hide
6. Of Paramount Importance
7. Grounding in Good Sense
8. Take Some Responsibility
9. The Constitution Matters
10. The Truth Matters
11. Doing what is right
12. Stay Strong
13. Crossing the Line
14. Duty, Honor, Country
15. I Know Why You're Here
16. Never Wanted to Be Famous
17. A Moral and Religious People.
18. Love Mercy and Walk Humbly
Epilogue: Walking Righteous

Essays by Key Participants in Terry's Action

Joseph Farah: The war on citizenship
Miki Booth: From Near Dream to New Job: Moving Communities to Action
CDR Charles F. Kerchner (Ret): A Military Officer's Oath to Support and Defend the Constitution Does Not Expire or Retire
Dean Haskins: The Presidential Circus
James Bridge: An Oath is Before God

Vignettes of Key Participants in Terry's Cause by David Mercaldo

David Mercaldo, PhD: Voices Crying In The Wilderness
Daria Novak : "Are we on the road to political China?"
Ed Noonan: "Terrorists got more Constitutional protection than Terry"
Rock Peters: "You can't run a country on personality."
Patra Minocha: "Political activism is not some sort of competitive sport."
Theresa Cao: "Sometimes truth shouts from the mountain tops!"
Gordon Smith: "Terry is the best kept secret in America"
Rudy Davis: "I see the world through the grid of my faith."
Brent Morehouse: "Americans have been asleep."
David Moxley: "The least I can do is let Terry tell his story"
Rev. David Manning: "Everybody in Congress knows this man is a fraud!"
Jerome R. Corsi Ph.D.: "We are hypocrites when our courts will not allow one of our military to raise a legal question and not get an answer!
Catherine "Kate" Vandermoer Ph.D.: "The Constitution is just 44,000 words...it's a piece of brilliance, and I feel God had a great deal to do with it!"
Greg Lakin, MD: "I believe what my brother Terry did was an act of patriotism!"
Lt. Col. Robert A. Perrich: "Terry is in a war and I'm fighting with him!"
Margaret "Ducky" Hemenway: "This is not a political issue – it is a legal issue and one of paramount national importance."
Joseph Farah: "We're in trouble in America! We're losing our moral bearings. We're losing our respect for the rule of law."
Major General Paul Vallely: "I don't think justice in the matter of his eligibility will come to pass!"
Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney: "I'm proud of Terry! He did what he felt he had to do and I understand his reasoning."
Cdr Charles F. Kerchner Jr.: "I've got deep roots in this country and I'm not leaving!"
Capt. Pamela Barnett: "Our freedoms are at stake at this point and I am doing everything I can to deal with the eligibility issue and other matters!"
Miki Booth: "He's shredding the Constitution."
Sharon Rondeau: "We need to restore the rule of law. We need to abide by the US Constitution!"
Peter Boyles: "We still have no answers. The questions are still enormous!"

The Art of Terry's Case

The Chain of Command
Michigan Trucks
The Empower Has No Clothes
Timeline to Lawsuits
Eligibility Checklist
Medical Application
Eligibility for Dummies

The Websites of Terry's Case and Life

Safeguard Our Constitution
TerryLakinActionFund.com

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I listened to most of the Lakin interview with Ciavolino and Cashill. What a bunch of despicable liars. [-X Lakin still thinks he was upholding his oath. (He conveniently forgot that he had admitted at his court martial that he new his orders were legal.) He says Obama has never released a "validated" birth certificate. Lakin said he was asked to take an MRI to see if he had a brain disorder but refused. He whined about being led in shackles through National Airport. One of the others asked Lakin if there was a bias in the military against him. He said yes, there was a group of officers who thought he should obey orders and move on.

The bottom line is that Lakin still thinks he did nothing wrong and that he is a patriot who was trying to uphold the Constitution. #-o


Like the gullible fools who fall for a Nigerian 419 letter and keep throwing good money after bad, because the cognitive dissonance of having to admit they are gullible fools who got taken in, Lakin is a gullible fool who got suckered in to the dumbest conspiracy theory in the history of the world. Even dumber than most gullible suckers, like the birfers who send a few bucks to Orly, Lakin lost everything: his career, his pension and his honor.

At this point, for Lakin to admit he was wrong would be to admit that he is one of the biggest fools on the face of the planet, a recklessly irresponsible idiot who broke the law for a delusion and screwed himself and his family out of millions of dollars, and did time in the can to boot.

I don't think he's man enough to face what he really is, which is a pathetic fool who got rooked out of everything by a group of swindlers.

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Typhoid Orly isn't even mentioned. :((

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Like the gullible fools who fall for a Nigerian 419 letter and keep throwing good money after bad, because the cognitive dissonance of having to admit they are gullible fools who got taken in, Lakin is a gullible fool who got suckered in to the dumbest conspiracy theory in the history of the world...

At this point, for Lakin to admit he was wrong would be to admit that he is one of the biggest fools on the face of the planet, a recklessly irresponsible idiot who broke the law for a delusion and screwed himself and his family out of millions of dollars, and did time in the can to boot.


This reminded me of a scene from last week's Community:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/301851/commun ... ?c=657:682

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Lots of new info on Lakin's book:

Essays by Key Participants in Terry's Action
Vignettes of Key Participants in Terry's Cause by David Mercaldo
The Art of Terry's Case
The Websites of Terry's Case and Life
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I remember these from college. You get to be in the book if you buy a certain number, and *poof!* you are a published author. :mrgreen:

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I don't think he's man enough to face what he really is, which is a pathetic fool who got rooked out of everything by a group of swindlers.


Not anyone's fault but his own. He's the dumbest birther there is.

Even idiot Orly knows better than to use her own cash for the privilege to birth.

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Typhoid Orly isn't even mentioned. :((

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I noticed that. I wonder if she did. And after she went there for the trial and everything!

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I did a quick look at the book -- a book so boring that only a birther would want it. One thing that really angered me was from one of the letters in the book -- a letter who only goes by John. In his letter, "John" wrote "It's my personal opinion that Colonel Lakin's C.O. should have been charged with dereliction of duty, rather than the Colonel with missing a movement."

Letter from Lakin's Friend John

For those who are new to Fogbow, Lakins' CO, Col. Gordon R. Roberts was awarded the "Medal of Honor" at the age 19 and one of only 2 recipient of the nation's highest honor currently on active duty in the Army. * This man left the service for 18 years then decided to rejoin the Army. Lakin is not worthy to shine Col Roberts shoes, forget comparing their actions in the same sentence.

* This is based on the latest info I could find so it may not be current.

Col. Gordon Roberts

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Like the gullible fools who fall for a Nigerian 419 letter and keep throwing good money after bad, because the cognitive dissonance of having to admit they are gullible fools who got taken in, Lakin is a gullible fool who got suckered in to the dumbest conspiracy theory in the history of the world. Even dumber than most gullible suckers, like the birfers who send a few bucks to Orly, Lakin lost everything: his career, his pension and his honor.

At this point, for Lakin to admit he was wrong would be to admit that he is one of the biggest fools on the face of the planet, a recklessly irresponsible idiot who broke the law for a delusion and screwed himself and his family out of millions of dollars, and did time in the can to boot.

I don't think he's man enough to face what he really is, which is a pathetic fool who got rooked out of everything by a group of swindlers.

Lakin was not somebody who was contacted by a swindler, swallowed their scam and then proceeded to give the swindler his money.

Lakin searched for the swindler, settled for an ambulance chaser after being rejected on multiple occasions, then proceeded to throw away his future earnings in addition to 5 months of his freedom.

Dogbite merely recognized a fool and a legal lucrative scam being dropped into his lap.

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Birthers pretending that convicted felon Lakin is a hero is bad enough, but that example is particularly vile. I'll bet this worthless excuse for a life form has no idea that he is denigrating a Medal of Honor winner and one of, arguably, the two greatest true heroes that our nation currently has in a seditious quest to overthrow the Constitutional Republic. I wish there was a hell so this turd would burn in it.

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John could be JY1977. JY worshiped Lakin every week on my show in chat and said he would melt down COL Roberts Medal of Honor if he had the chance.

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So very apt that the section with "Circus" in the title is by Bozo Deano.

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I did a quick look at the book -- a book so boring that only a birther would want it. One thing that really angered me was from one of the letters in the book -- a letter who only goes by John. In his letter, "John" wrote "It's my personal opinion that Colonel Lakin's C.O. should have been charged with dereliction of duty, rather than the Colonel with missing a movement."

Letter from Lakin's Friend John

For those who are new to Fogbow, Lakins' CO, Col. Gordon R. Roberts was awarded the "Medal of Honor" at the age 19 and one of only 2 recipient of the nation's highest honor currently on active duty in the Army. * This man left the service for 18 years then decided to rejoin the Army. Lakin is not worthy to shine Col Roberts shoes, forget comparing their actions in the same sentence.

* This is based on the latest info I could find so it may not be current.

Col. Gordon Roberts


This makes me so angry I could spit. Col. Roberts is one of my living heroes. Exceptional courage under fire plus an enduring commitment to the military should be something so-called "patriots" idolize. Instead, their litmus test is so sensitive that one action they don't agree with negates a lifetime of true patriotism. Real warriors versus keyboard warriors? No contest.

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This makes me so angry I could spit. Col. Roberts is one of my living heroes. Exceptional courage under fire plus an enduring commitment to the military should be something so-called "patriots" idolize. Instead, their litmus test is so sensitive that one action they don't agree with negates a lifetime of true patriotism. Real warriors versus keyboard warriors? No contest.


It is truly disgusting. I think it is this combination of hilarious stupidity and utterly despicable cretinism that keeps me watching these creeps with a mixture of fascination and repulsion.

They spew virulent garbage at true heroes, while worshipping cowards like Lakin, swindling convicts like Smith and Sinclair, screeching Moldovan frauds like Orly, and delusional kooks like Apuzzo, Donofrio, etc. One would have to scour the prisons, crack houses and criminally insane asylums of the nation to gather together such a mass of human detritus.

That the least crooked of the batch is Gary Kreep says a lot.

Their sole criterion for being a "hero" is whether someone shares their fringe delusion. Even then, they hate each other if someone else isn't the exact same brand of fringe lunatic. A Vattel birther hates a Kenya birther, and vice versa. Meet the litmus test, though, and you are a True Patriot, even if you're a multiply convicted felon, pervert, liar, coward, Group W bench type.

Spend a lifetime of exemplary service to your country, exhibit true heroism all your life, and then, like every sane person in the country, reject as nonsensical the idiocy of birthing? Traitor, criminal, bla bla bla.

The problem with birthers is they're dangerous and funny at the same time. It's impossible to underestimate their incompetence and idiocy, but it is possible to underestimate how much damage they cause to the level of political discourse in the country even as they utterly fail. Their lies may inspire someone equally as crazy as they are, but who is not too cowardly, ineffectual and pathetic to accomplish something bad.

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 Post subject: Ex-Con Terry Lakin
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:15 pm 
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It is truly disgusting. I think it is this combination of hilarious stupidity and utterly despicable cretinism that keeps me watching these creeps with a mixture of fascination and repulsion.

They spew virulent garbage at true heroes, while worshipping cowards like Lakin, swindling convicts like Smith and Sinclair, screeching Moldovan frauds like Orly, and delusional kooks like Apuzzo, Donofrio, etc. One would have to scour the prisons, crack houses and criminally insane asylums of the nation to gather together such a mass of human detritus.

That the least crooked of the batch is Gary Kreep says a lot.

Their sole criterion for being a "hero" is whether someone shares their fringe delusion. Even then, they hate each other if someone else isn't the exact same brand of fringe lunatic. A Vattel birther hates a Kenya birther, and vice versa. Meet the litmus test, though, and you are a True Patriot, even if you're a multiply convicted felon, pervert, liar, coward, Group W bench type.

Spend a lifetime of exemplary service to your country, exhibit true heroism all your life, and then, like every sane person in the country, reject as nonsensical the idiocy of birthing? Traitor, criminal, bla bla bla.

The problem with birthers is they're dangerous and funny at the same time. It's impossible to underestimate their incompetence and idiocy, but it is possible to underestimate how much damage they cause to the level of political discourse in the country even as they utterly fail. Their lies may inspire someone equally as crazy as they are, but who is not too cowardly, ineffectual and pathetic to accomplish something bad.


I completely agree =D> :-bd

The birthers are just more sand being thrown into the not-so-well-oiled machinery of our political discourse--sure, all of the grains of sand get ground into dust, but they do damage along the way...

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 Post subject: Ex-Con Terry Lakin
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Occupation: Amateur radio host trying to figure out how to lower myself to shameless begging and stupid petition filing. It might be a good way to make a living. ;)
Here is the latest bullpucky with Marco and Terry:


http://www.terrylakinactionfund.com/ima ... kbpsva.mp3

Terry cried all the way to his court martial. :lol:

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