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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:10 pm 
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Meh - Since no one has heard much from him at all, I think "someone" had a little chat with him.


I agree. I just don't expect him to be frog-marched out of his house in chains.

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No screeching from Orly yet (geeeee wonder why that would be ;;) )

But from ORYR...

Judge Richard Puglisi Officially Kills Obama Birth Certificate Hearing For Taitz v Astrue

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"The Court finds this matter suitable for disposition without a hearing pursuant to Rule 7.2(d) of the Local Rules of Practice of the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii. The hearing set for November 21, 2011 is VACATED. The United States District Court for the District of Columbia issued a Memorandum and Order denying Plaintiff’s motion for reconsideration. Taitz v. Astrue, Civil Action No. 11-402 (RCL), 2011 WL 3805741 (D.D.C. Oct. 17, 2011). Because the District of Columbia action has been dismissed, Plaintiff’s Motion is DENIED."


And link to Jack's document on Scribd. :-bd

It's always the comments that are fun...

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Do we have any judges in this nation with a spine?
October 27, 2011 2:20 PM


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Yeah, all of 'em. They rule on the law instead of your bullshit. :-bd

go to standupamericaus.org,read "National Call to United Action" Major General Paul Vallely,All Patriots,Veterans-make demands and March on D.C. 11-11-11.
October 27, 2011 2:21 PM
:lol:

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Dealio said...[Reply]

They have told us the score. Now we must respond. Marching long and hard on the capitol is, and has been from the beginning, the only way. A few million converging in Washington will do the trick. All members of all three branches are to be arrested. Each and everyone has thrown their hat in with the illegal. I can only interpret this one way - guilty.
=))

And my personal favorite... another conspiracy is born. \:D/

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LR 7.2(d) Unless specifically required, the court, in its
discretion, may decide all matters, including motions, petitions,
and appeals, without a hearing.

Another words....no reason. :lol:

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF HAWAII
IN THE MATTER OF THE
AMENDMENT OF THE LOCAL RULES
OF PRACTICE FOR THE UNITED
STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE
DISTRICT OF HAWAII
ORDER AMENDING THE
RULES OF PRACTICE FOR THE
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF HAWAII
ORDER AMENDING THE LOCAL RULES OF PRACTICE FOR THE
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF HAWAII
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the Local Rules of Practice
for the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii
are amended, effective December 1, 2009, as attached to this
order:
IT IS SO ORDERED.
DATED: Honolulu, Hawaii, November 18, 2009

SUSAN OKI MOLLWAY


Interesting date for amendments...

Wonder if it is possible to find out if and when NR 7.2 (d) was amended...

](*,)

Those answers are soooooooo difficult to find.

http://www.hid.uscourts.gov/misc/lrfinal6-2003.pdf

Sorry to burst your conspiracy bubble there, charles.

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"Plaintiff Orlay Taitz"

ORLAY!

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What is he singing to the cow? :-?

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What is he singing to the cow? :-?


Great Balls of Fire, of course.

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Joseph Robidoux III wrote:
Orly has deserved but avoided sanctions in many other courts, but I don't believe anything she has done so far in the USDC for Hawaii merits anything other than a dismissal of her suit. Just my $.02.


I thought this was the one where she accused the attorney for the state of "making up the Rules of Evidence" among other such nuttiness... or was that in the state version of the case? (It is SO confusing!)

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I believe that was Taitz v Fuddy. The only thing that has happened in this case was Judge Mollway telling Orly she could apply for ECF privileges and setting a date dependent upon the DC case being reconsidered.

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Joseph Robidoux III wrote:
I believe that was Taitz v Fuddy. The only thing that has happened in this case was Judge Mollway telling Orly she could apply for ECF privileges and setting a date dependent upon the DC case being reconsidered.

No.

Taitz v Fuddy has been dismissed.

Taitz v Astrue in D.C. has been dismissed and is on appeal. Taitz's attempt to stay the dismissal pending appeal (which would deprive the D.C. Circuit of appellate jurisdiction) was also implicitly denied when the D.C. district court sent the notice of appeal to the D.C. circuit.

The motion to compel in the Hawai'i version of Taitz v Astrue -- the case where Taitz was told she could apply for ECF privileges -- was just denied.

Summary: Dead, dead and dead.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:43 am 
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raicha wrote:
WARNING ABOUT SUBMITTING FALSE
INFORMATION.

Intentional submission of false information using this Federal Government Internet Web site,
including purposefully submitting a false request, or under false pretenses, for an address change
is illegal. Persons found guilty of knowingly submitting fraudulent information may be prosecuted
and, upon conviction, may be subject to a fine of not more than $250,000 and/or imprisonment not to
exceed five years


So, think we can get someone to make a citizens' arrest on Hollister and take him to whichever court would have jurisdiction over his fraudulent-information-submitting ass and toss him in the hoosegow where he belongs? Maybe Walt would be interested in the job so he can get more practice for the next time he needs to arrest that courthouse in Tennessee?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:52 am 
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SuEdB wrote:
Meh - Since no one has heard much from him at all, I think "someone" had a little chat with him.


I agree. I just don't expect him to be frog-marched out of his house in chains.


Yeah... even though I still have some very minor hope that it might happen, it's headed deep into the "Any. Day. Now." territory for me.

Hey, Foggie? You should make a new user group for those of us who have gotten to the point where we simply don't expect *anything* to happen to Orly, Hollister, or any of their co-conspirators and/or anyone else engaging in illegal acts to try and get Obama out of office. You can call us the "Any.Day.Now.ers" (those periods are important as they show the rather "ho hum" attitude with with the comment is expressed since we no longer expect anything to happen anytime soon.

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Joseph Robidoux III wrote:
I believe that was Taitz v Fuddy. The only thing that has happened in this case was Judge Mollway telling Orly she could apply for ECF privileges and setting a date dependent upon the DC case being reconsidered.


Yes, possibly.

Orly's posted something that she says she's filed on her website. That document is for the dismissed Taitz v Fuddy suit, and accuses one of the State attorneys of having committed misconduct by explaining the rules as they really exist instead of providing the explanation that Orly thinks is correct. So far, that filing has not appeared on the docket in Hawaii.

I'm honestly not sure if it will. I've got no idea what the Circuit Court's normal practice is when dealing with batshit insanity of that magnitude.

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I'm honestly not sure if it will. I've got no idea what the Circuit Court's normal practice is when dealing with batshit insanity of that magnitude.

Sure as hell makes some people over here on the Mainland look stupid, doesn't it?

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Joseph Robidoux III wrote:
I believe that was Taitz v Fuddy. The only thing that has happened in this case was Judge Mollway telling Orly she could apply for ECF privileges and setting a date dependent upon the DC case being reconsidered.

No.

Taitz v Fuddy has been dismissed.

Taitz v Astrue in D.C. has been dismissed and is on appeal. Taitz's attempt to stay the dismissal pending appeal (which would deprive the D.C. Circuit of appellate jurisdiction) was also implicitly denied when the D.C. district court sent the notice of appeal to the D.C. circuit.

The motion to compel in the Hawai'i version of Taitz v Astrue -- the case where Taitz was told she could apply for ECF privileges -- was just denied.

Summary: Dead, dead and dead.


That is what confused me!

So, Orly must have just filed an appeal in the DC case?

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LM K wrote:
So, Orly must have just filed an appeal in the DC case?

Taitz filed a notice of appeal in her DC case (it also contained a stay request, but it was implicitly denied).*

Taitz (said she) also filed a notice of appeal in her other DC case (against the White House).

Taitz (said she) filed a reconsideration motion in the state case.

Taitz (said she) filed a new suit against Clinton (seeking Obama's passport records, etc.).


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LM K wrote:
So, Orly must have just filed an appeal in the DC case?

Taitz filed a notice of appeal in her DC case (it also contained a stay request, but it was implicitly denied).*

Taitz (said she) also filed a notice of appeal in her other DC case (against the White House).

Taitz (said she) filed a reconsideration motion in the state case.

Taitz (said she) filed a new suit against Clinton (seeking Obama's passport records, etc.).


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Oh, I disagree. Taitz knows from prior experience that her followers will click that PayPal button when she can demonstrate to them that an outrage has been committed.

The big problem for the Chaleria is that her list of followers is dwindling with each defeat.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
The big problem for the Chaleria is that her list of non-sockpuppet followers is dwindling with each defeat.

FIFY.

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From Corsi's facebook wall:
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Judge Richard Puglisi Officially Kills Obama Birth Certificate Hearing For Taitz v Astrue

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I am getting so tired of waterboarding all these traitorous scumbags. Okay...so what's this guy's address?
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As October 2011 draws to a close I was wondering if Orly may have set a record for the number of court losses in one month. I can't even remember them all. Isn't it 4 or 5?

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New Docket Entries...

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12/02/2011 42 Supplemental Record on Appeal transmitted to US Court of Appeals re 40[RECAP] Notice of Appeal ; (rdj) (Entered: 12/02/2011)

12/02/2011 USCA Appeal Fees received $ 455 receipt number 4616044235 re 40[RECAP] Notice of Appeal filed by ORLY TAITZ (rdj) (Entered: 12/02/2011)

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Oh O'rly... so you *did* have to pay the $455 after all. The courts weren't just messin' with you, eh?

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According to a post on her website, twlithotu is seeking to revive this long dead and affirmed-on-appeal case. Let's hope Judge Lamberth gives her and the case the reconsideration they deserve.

The basis for the motion to reconsider is that Taitz has new evidence (though she hasn't posted what it is) that Harrison Bounel was issued the social security number Taitz claims belongs to President Obama, and under a 120-year rule of the Social Security Administration (which she wants the court to judicially notice), all of the information concerning Bounel should be released.

As usual, in strict conformance to the Sternsig Rule, Taitz misses a few things. While there are many more than these problems, here are a few:

1. She hasn't proven the number in question was ever issued to anyone including President Obama (though she gets tantalizingly close).

2. She has no proof that any social security number was ever issued to Mr. Bounel.

3. The "evidence" isn't new in the sense that it wasn't available when Taitz first filed this frivolous lawsuit.

4. There is no "Emergency" (nor "eergency").

5. The case is long dead. (I suspect she's trying to save on filing fees.)

Other than that, pure genius. :crazy:

Here's the brilliant pleading:
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Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
29839 Santa Margarita Parkway, STE 100
Rancho Santa Margarita CA 92688
Tel: (949) 683-5411; Fax (949) 766-7603
E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com, orly.taitz@gmail.com

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA



Dr. ORLY TAITZ, ESQ, PRO SE
Plaintiff,
v. EMERGENCY MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION

Michael Astrue, Commissioner of the
Social Security Administration, 11-cv-00402
Respondent
Honorable Royce Lamberth Chief Justice presiding


Request FOR JUDICIAL NOTICE FILED IN Conjunction with AN EERGENCY [sic] MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION



Plaintiff Pro Se Dr. Orly Taitz (hereinafter “Taitz”) hereby requests that the Court take judicial notice of the following document attached as Exhibit 1. SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

Chief FOIA Officer Report for 2011

This request is made pursuant to Rule 201 (a), (b)1, (b)2, (c)2 of the Federal Rules of Evidence.

RULE 201. JUDICIAL NOTICE OF ADJUDICATIVE FACTS

(a) Scope. This rule governs judicial notice of an adjudicative fact only, not a legislative fact.

(b) Kinds of Facts That May Be Judicially Noticed. The court may judicially notice a fact that is not subject to reasonable dispute because it:

(1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or

(2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

(c) Taking Notice. The court:

(1) may take judicial notice on its own; or

(2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

(d) Timing. The court may take judicial notice at any stage of the proceeding.

(e) Opportunity to Be Heard. On timely request, a party is entitled to be heard on the propriety of taking judicial notice and the nature of the fact to be noticed. If the court takes judicial notice before notifying a party, the party, on request, is still entitled to be heard.

Social security administration Chief FOIA Officer report is

(1) is generally known within the trial court’s territorial jurisdiction; or

(2) can be accurately and readily determined from sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.

Aforementioned report is posted on the official web site of the Social Security administration http://www.ssa.gov

and under 201 C (2) must take judicial notice if a party requests it and the court is supplied with the necessary information.

the report in question is relevant to the proceeding as Petitioner Taitz is seeking reconsideration of the decision by the SSA to deny her release of the SS-5 for the Social Security number REDACTED due to privacy considerations. In her motion for reconsideration Taitz provides newly discovered evidence showing that the Social Security number in question was assigned to Harrison J. Bounel, an immigrant from Russia, born in 1890. Fed. R. Evid. Rule 201. Under Fed. R. Evid. Rule 201(f) judicial notice may be taken at any stage of the proceeding. Government of Canal Zone v Burjan, 596 F.2d 690, 694 (5th Circ. 1979).

SSA Chief Foia Officer report in question in Section I, (1) (c) states

We have revisited longstanding decisions regarding the withholding of certain frequently requested data, to determine if our recommended guidance is still applicable and reflects the presumption of openness. For instance, we issued new guidance for disclosing extremely aged individuals’ original Social Security Applications (SS-5) when our records do not indicate a date of death. We developed a new policy that establishes a “120 year rule” and assumes that an individual is alive unless their birth date exceeds 120 years or we have proof of the individual’s death. This new policy enabled us to release more information and potentially reduced requests on appeal.
Since Harrison J. Bounel was born in 1890, he would be 123 years old and according to aforementioned 120 year rule SSA was obligated to release his SS0-5 under FOIA 5US 552.
CONCLUSION
This court should take the Judicial notice of the SSA Chief FOIA Officer report

Respectfully submitted

/s/ Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ

President of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation

05.18.2013

cc Inspector General of the Social Security Administration
cc senator Chuck Grassley ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee
cc Congressman Bob Goodlatte Chair of the House Judiciary Committee
cc Daryl Issa, Chair of the House Oversight Committee
cc Inspector general of IRS

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=421866 :twisted:


I look forward to seeing her accompanying papers, which have probably been drafted with the same care and attention to detail as her request for judicial notice.

Prediction: These papers and Taitz's subsequent request for default will all be ignored.

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Chief FOIA Officer Report 2011 - Social Security
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/Chief%20FOIA%20Officers%20Report%202011%20FINAL%20030711.doc

2011, huh? Probably released in 2012. And now it's .....

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According to a post on her website, twlithotu is seeking to revive this long dead and affirmed-on-appeal case. Let's hope Judge Lamberth gives her and the case the reconsideration they deserve.


True. The only decision Chief Judge Lamberth really should reconsider is his decision not to sanction Orly.

Prediction: a one sentence dismissal citing the reconsideration rule and the Nutjob v. Whoever citation that says you can't do what Orly is attempting to do.

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