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 Post subject: Harrison J Bounel
PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:09 pm 
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Hendershot lives in Alabama.


which law would apply? The state where you're calling from, or the law of the state you are calling to, or a federal law? :-?



the state you are currently in (where the recordings are made).


This could be an extremely dangerous assumption to make. The issue is actually a highly fact-intensive choice of law question. In New York, for example, the choice of law is the state in which the injury occurred. While I believe some states have, in the interests of judicial economy, established bright line rules based on the location of the taper and the non-consenting party, this is not the case everywhere.

Common choice of law concerns include the locus of the majority of the actions comprising the factual nucleus of the case, the locus of the effects, the state with the most policy interest in enforcing the law over the subject matter, and a number of other nonexclusive factors that essentially amount to choosing the law of the forum state with the most meaningful interest in adjudicating the issue. Resolution of choice of law issues can consume as many legal resources as entire trials of more simple cases.

Further, more than one state can have concurrent jurisdiction over actions undertaken and having effects in more than one state, so the issue may need to be resolved in more than one state. Even if one's own state has established a bright-line rule explicitly placing the choice of law, when the case is in its own courts, one cannot be certain that, if haled into court in another state that has not resolved the issue, that that state will not apply its own laws instead.

I would assume, unless the legal issue is cut-and-dried in every conceivable forum, that recording a telephone conversation without the consent of all parties is fraught with peril.

Edit: The perils of not reading to the end of the thread include not seeing someone post basically what you did. The perils of reading to the end of the thread include losing your place. I could zap this to remove redundant material, but it seems like it adds enough to the discussion to justify sparing its life.

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 Post subject: Harrison J Bounel
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 Post subject: Harrison J Bounel
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Albert wants to be a publisher!

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I have decided to create my own E-Zine (electronic magazine). I will call it, The National Reporter. It will be formatted similar to a Colonial Period Publication in both style and content. It will be unabashed, informative, and unforgiving. It will report, the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me GOD.

I guess I am going to be a buisy editor. I know that I will make mistakes along the way, but it will be a charactorbuilder and I will be a better man for it.


I just can't wait. I hope he hires a copy editor.

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ORYR: Live Database Pull Linking Harrison Bounel to Obama's Bogus Social Security Number



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Wow, I'm almost convinced. One thing -- does this tell us when this character appeared, how much activity it has ever had or anything else other than is was once associated with the property? No? It just shows associations. If I remember correctly, one link from Harrison Bounel to either the house, Michelle, or Barack Obama will link all of them.

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 Post subject: Harrison J Bounel
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I think Bounel is a misspelling or data recording error. An error in credit information databases? Whoda thunk it. 1890 96814


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Wow, I'm almost convinced. One thing -- does this tell us when this character appeared, how much activity it has ever had or anything else other than is was once associated with the property? No? It just shows associations. If I remember correctly, one link from Harrison Bounel to either the house, Michelle, or Barack Obama will link all of them.


And the "info" was added in 2009 or 2010, after Orly blasted the SSN all over Creation.

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 Post subject: Harrison J Bounel
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I noticed Hendershot pulled the two videos that he posted of the call to Rep. Posey's office. Do you think Cecala may have complained about having that conversation posted on the Intertoobz?

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Hendershot is using a database service called Axciom in his latest video. I wounder if they would be interested to know if their database is being used to smear the President with false accusations?
http://www.axciom.com

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I just watched the video with the ponderous music on Kerchner's Blog, that shows the census entry for Harry Bounel. It shows the gentleman as a roomer in the household of the Robinson family in New Haven, CT. It cleverly doesn't show the race column for the Robinsons. Does anyone have access to Ancestry.com?

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The Robinsons, Bounel and the other roomer are listed as "Mu" and the Ancestry summary calls them Mulatto. (I didn't look up the 1910 census' race definitions, but I think that census included the infamous 'quadroon' and 'octoroon', so Mu = half white, half black) He was born in Connecticut, as were both his parents and his occupation is "Blacksmith".


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The Robinsons, Bounel and the other roomer are listed as "Mu" and the Ancestry summary calls them Mulatto. (I didn't look up the 1910 census' race definitions, but I think that census included the infamous 'quadroon' and 'octoroon', so Mu = half white, half black) He was born in Connecticut, as were both his parents and his occupation is "Blacksmith".


Thanks! Robinson being such an unusual name for black, white, or mulatto.

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So do we have a 'special report' on this? Or a link to Doc C's?

This little gem from 2 years ago is now being passed around like it's a big 'bombshell'.

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Is it as simple as Bounel being the trustee of the Obama Family trust?

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Is it as simple as Bounel being the trustee of the Obama Family trust?


Yeah. I did try that. :-? It's over their heads.

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cross-posting from Poopies thread...

I dunno... :-?

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=379860 :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Harrison J Bounel
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I hereby verify that. That is a true and correct identical copy I saw with my own eyes on the Internet, under penalty of perjury.

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 Post subject: Harrison J Bounel
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The name Harrison J. Bounel came from skip tracer Albert Hendershott's shoddy research into property records on the President's Chicago properties. nbc did some excellent debunking on this at his blog but he has hidden a lot of his articles after the Harpy complained about copyright infringement. I hope nbc reconsiders and comes back to blogging. I think the conclusion of nbc's research was that Bounel is likely a trustee for the Chicago property while the President is in office.

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The name Harrison J. Bounel came from skip tracer Albert Hendershott's shoddy research into property records on the President's Chicago properties. nbc did some excellent debunking on this at his blog but he has hidden a lot of his articles after the Harpy complained about copyright infringement. I hope nbc reconsiders and comes back to blogging. I think the conclusion of nbc's research was that Bounel is likely a trustee for the Chicago property while the President is in office.


And that would be the Harrison "J" Bounel from the 1910 Census or the 1940 Census, or this "Bonnel" person who apparently caught a plane in HI in 1956? I'm not sure there even is a Harrison "J" Bounel and I am certainly not convinced he is a trustee on anything, though I did read nbc's blogging on it at the time.

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The name Harrison J. Bounel came from skip tracer Albert Hendershott's shoddy research into property records on the President's Chicago properties. nbc did some excellent debunking on this at his blog but he has hidden a lot of his articles after the Harpy complained about copyright infringement. I hope nbc reconsiders and comes back to blogging. I think the conclusion of nbc's research was that Bounel is likely a trustee for the Chicago property while the President is in office.


me too. I pop over sometimes hoping for an update.

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I went back and looked at Hendershot's original article and document dump from May 2011. He ran Obama's SS# and address in Chicago through some of the skip trace databases to which he subscribed and the name "Harrison J. Bounel" popped out. Of course so did the names "Barack H. Obama" and "Michelle Robinson Obama" so if the Obama's used an alias to buy the Greenwood Avenue property they did a really terrible job. These databases make every possible link from public databases so that if you are trying to find someone they are a good starting point. All it takes is one typo to make a connection however. For example, in Hendershot's own search one of the former owners, Sylvia R. Smilow, is listed as having an alias of "Fylvia R. Smilow". I wonder if Hendershot is tracking down this sinister "Fylvia" person? :lol:

By the way, Henershot did a lousy job redacting the document. It is easy pull out many of the phone numbers he tried to redact including the sinister Fylvia's number. [-X

Hendershot is a crappy investigator and a liar. The Bounel connection could very easily just be a typo of social security number, phone number, or an address.

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Ancestry.com has no Harrison J. Bounels.

The 1910 census guy is Harry S Bonnel or Harry S Bounel. He is a mulatto born in 1860. A blacksmith, he boards with the Robinsons in New Haven Ct. They are also mulattos.

The 1940 census guy is Harry Bounel born about 1890 in Russia. He is a lodger with Louis and Blanche Julius in the Bronx, has a third grade education and works as a helper.

Harry T. Bounel is in the Guernsey census. He was born in 1876 and was 5 in their 1881 census. I would be happy to go to Guernsey to do more research if there are extra Soros bucks.

Harrison Bounel brings up zilch. Nada. Also, am I reading Hendershotts research right? Is the only Harrison J Bounel showing up in 2009? After Obama became president? After Orly posted his ss# everywhere? Hell, someone could have easily created Bounel from internet info about Obama.



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