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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:43 am 
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First chapter of the book (on Natural Born Citizenship) now available for free download on Scribd.


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First chapter of the book (on Natural Born Citizenship) now available for free download on Scribd.



and...

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... and you can see that by cherry-picking only documents that agree with you and ignoring any contrary arguments that may exist, and by generously (to put it mildly) copying and pasting material from other authors, you can come up with a "chapter" of a book that might fool someone who doesn't understand the first thing about the subject.

This chapter is worth every penny I paid for it. Even has charts and stuff. Way cool useless.

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... and you can see that by cherry-picking only documents that agree with you ...

The cover photo itself is precisely a graphic example of this. Hmm, is the ONLY photograph available of Obama a grainy black-and-white that looks like Ed Hale's Bigfoot documentation? Wow, he must really be secretive and mysterious!

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Politics aside, it shouldn't take the average disinterested reader very long to realize that Pamela Barnett is both intellectually dishonest and roundly stupid -- not a promising combination for the author of a book promising "new research".

Her preachy, pseudo-pedantic attempts at persuasion will insult anyone who successfully completed junior high school. Clearly, this is a book meant to be put down.

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Don't help her.

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This is serious, right? Pammy actually thinks that this material will help the birfer movement? It's almost like she is embracing the "birfoon" label:

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Natural born requires sole allegiance at birth to the United States and it requires no written law because it is what comes natural - the child's citizenship comes from parents and place and there is no question to what country the child belongs to, or to what country would have the child's allegiance.
(errors and underlining in original)

Good grief. What a mess.


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You'd think that a book of this quality would be snapped right up by the WND Publishing Division.... Oh wait, how has that worked out for them.....

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I'm sorry...but is this a 53-page INTRODUCTION?

Pam calls it a "Chapter," singular, but the only caption I see is the "Introduction" label on page 3.

(Also, who publishes a book without page numbers?)

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I'm sorry...but is this a 53-page INTRODUCTION?

Pam calls it a "Chapter," singular, but the only caption I see is the "Introduction" label on page 3.


#-o ](*,) :-k

But it can't be the true introduction because it quickly informs the reader that it is necessary to digest a "prologue" in order to understand the author's true motivations:

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If you have not read the prologue please do so for background on the motivation of this book.


So, I wonder if there will there be a "forward" to introduce the prologue.

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But when you think about it, it makes perfect sense that a book written by an experienced pro say birfer-litigator would be organized as as a single plenipotent, comprehensive helping of word spaghetti, because that's they way they compose their legal writings. That is, every document, whether it be an amended complaint, a motion for recusal or reconsideration or whatever, includes all the verbiage, zibits and "evidence" of the entire lawsuit. Similarly, briefs, motions, notices, daffydavits and the like run together in a single stream of consciousness.

If nothing else, this book appears to be an authentic specimen of birfer writing.

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I'm a little worried, I'll admit. Pambly is such a persuasive writer, i can see some people reading this and going huh, I want to find out more....

Her deft use of quotes, her preponsity for using the right words at the right time, or the wrong words at the right time, leave me realing. And she certainly has a keen insight into what the Founding Fathers (what, no mothers?) thought about this or that. You can tell she's a Republican because she believes in the divine right of kings.

This formerly black Army Captain has a new career. Methinks.

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Wow, she even blue-booked. Well, kind of. On the very first page she has 3 "ids." with no citation before them. Oh well. Nice Try. Comically, she was quoting Ludlam v. Ludlam which says out citizenship law was based upon the English common law but was arguing the discredited position that the common law was either jus soli or jus sanguinis. It would be too much to actually read the authority one cites.


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That was too boring to put up with the pain of reading it. My god... but how hard is it really to close a quotation?

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Barnett's book should be subtitled "Never Edited." Of course, it wasn't researched, either. It's a word salad that would qualify Barnett to be Sarah Palin's speech writer.

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Barnett's book should be subtitled "Never Edited." Of course, it wasn't researched, either. It's a word salad that would qualify Barnett to be Sarah Palin's speech writer.

If Barnett wrote it and Palin translated it, that might be a case of two negatives equalling a positive.

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I think it would be shredded gibberish.

On a stick.

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Wow, she even blue-booked. Well, kind of. On the very first page she has 3 "ids." with no citation before them.


Ah hah, an advanced feature! The expert blue-booker will recognize these as indefinite idecedents.

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Wow, she even blue-booked. Well, kind of. On the very first page she has 3 "ids." with no citation before them.


Ah hah, an advanced feature! The expert blue-booker will recognize these as indefinite idecedents.

Pambly: I don't remember where I got these quotes from!

Pambly's Imaginary Editor (P.I.E.): Ibid 'em!

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Pambly: I don't remember where I got these quotes from!

Pambly's Imaginary Editor (P.I.E.): Ibid 'em!


:lol: And if you make them up whole cloth, fibid comes in handy.

Sorry, I'm getting silly now. (Now?)

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I'm a little worried, I'll admit. Pambly is such a persuasive writer, i can see some people reading this and going huh, I want to find out more....

Her deft use of quotes, her preponsity for using the right words at the right time, or the wrong words at the right time, leave me realing. And she certainly has a keen insight into what the Founding Fathers (what, no mothers?) thought about this or that. You can tell she's a Republican because she believes in the divine right of kings.

This formerly black Army Captain has a new career. Methinks.


Brilliant!


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This "book" has not yet been published, and Barnett is still editing the first chapter/introduction. I can find no indication of who the publisher might be. It is not at all clear to me that more than this first chapter exists or that any publisher has accepted the work. "Disabled black female Army captain" was a figment of Barnett's imagination; this book may be another.

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Barnett asks that she ... be given full credit.


No problemo, Pam. You deserve all the credit for this.

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Wow, she even blue-booked. Well, kind of. On the very first page she has 3 "ids." with no citation before them.


Ah hah, an advanced feature! The expert blue-booker will recognize these as indefinite idecedents.

Pambly: I don't remember where I got these quotes from!

Pambly's Imaginary Editor (P.I.E.): Ibid 'em!


Perhaps Pambly forgot that she lifted these quotes, er, researched them from Mario the Putz. See a comment that Putz posted in response to a PoliticsUSA article, Debunking the Logic of Orly Taitz and the Birthers (August 6, 2009), found at http://www.politicsusa.com/en/Birther-Logic. Of note is Mario's rationalization for herding natural born American citizens of Japanese descent into internment camps, based on ... you guessed it -- natural law whereby child majikly inherent their allegiance from their fathers, who, as we know, were naturally loyal to Emperor Hirohito, since loyalty is genetically passed through to the Y chromosome.

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I find it 'interesting' that there's no sign of a definition for "vetting." You would think, in a book titled "Never Vetted".... Oh, well.

At least it forestalls the obvious critique:


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