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The whole thing is a nasty effluent, an insane affront to justice. How can Orly possibly avoid significant sanctions?

It requires significant judicial effort to justify sanctioning a lawyer. Judge Land probably spent a couple of day working on his order and opinion. Most judges just want to get the offender the hell out of his/her courtroom as quickly and efficiently as possible.

But, Taitz has demonstrated that she is a repeat offender on two levels. First, filing and prosecuting frivolous lawsuits, even FOIA lawsuits (which are about as simple as a federal lawsuit can be). Second, continuing to submit unlawfully obtained evidence, even after having been slightly admonished for doing so.

Judge Lamberth has administrative duties as well as judicial ones as chief judge of possibly the most important district court in the country. He doesn't have the time for Taitz's foolishness. Which is precisely why he should draw a line in the PACER and put a stop to it.

But don't hold your breath.

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Judge Lamberth has administrative duties as well as judicial ones as chief judge of possibly the most important district court in the country. He doesn't have the time for Taitz's foolishness. Which is precisely why he should draw a line in the PACER and put a stop to it.

But don't hold your breath.

I'm not, but I'm also not forgetting that Judge Lamberth gets to do this all over again shortly, with her FOIA suit against the White House counsel. With all the bites at the apple he is getting, surely he'll decide to make applesauce of her at some point.

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Could be applied to any Orly event, to be honest...

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The files were posted on whitehouse.com for all the world to see ...


Awww ... my source said it was a porn site, but now it's about college loans and stuff.

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Weeeeeeee, look at me - I'm riding the internetz - but I musta took a wrong turn, cause I can't see no abyss.... :-bd

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With all due respect to our beloved Foogie, my mostest favorite part is the Paul Revere analogy of Orly and her minions 'riding the internet and jumping into the abyss...'.

Powerful. Beautiful. It brings a tear to my eye *sniff*

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Judge Lamberth should take his time preparing his order denying the latest trash motion for reconsideration as well as this contumacious reply. And in the interim I hope Taitz ramps it up more so that Judge Lamberth can realize that if he wants her out of his court he's going to have to be more insistent than Judge Land.

Not only is this reply not permitted by the local rules, but it is merely a rehash of the previous rehashes and makes no new legal or factual points. The only point it makes is that sanctions are necessary.


Very true. Orly never again filed in Judge Land's area again.

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The files were posted on whitehouse.com for all the world to see ...


Awww ... my source said it was a porn site, but now it's about college loans and stuff.


Isn't there a Larry Sinclair connection there?


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Hmmm .... http://www.rense.com/general82/pris.htm

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WASHINGTON DC - Tonight political prisoner Larry Sinclair is spending his sixth night in the DC Jail, the victim of a Gestapo-style enemies' list operation carried out just three blocks from the White House last Wednesday afternoon.

Sinclair had come to the National Press Club to detail his charges that the self-proclaimed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Hussein Obama had indulged in two homosexual encounters complete with crack cocaine in early November 1999, that Obama was complicit in the December 2007 assassination of Donald Young, the gay choirmaster of Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ, and that's Obama's resident perception monger, David Axelrod, had paid the pornographic website Whitehouse.com $750,000 to organize a campaign of character assassination against Sinclair, culminating in a faked polygraph test. At the close of the press conference, Sinclair was arrested inside the press club by US Marshals and DC police, apparently based on an old Delaware warrant.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehouse.com

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Hmmm .... http://www.rense.com/general82/pris.htm

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WASHINGTON DC - Tonight political prisoner Larry Sinclair is spending his sixth night in the DC Jail, the victim of a Gestapo-style enemies' list operation carried out just three blocks from the White House last Wednesday afternoon.

Sinclair had come to the National Press Club to detail his charges that the self-proclaimed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Hussein Obama had indulged in two homosexual encounters complete with crack cocaine in early November 1999, that Obama was complicit in the December 2007 assassination of Donald Young, the gay choirmaster of Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ, and that's Obama's resident perception monger, David Axelrod, had paid the pornographic website Whitehouse.com $750,000 to organize a campaign of character assassination against Sinclair, culminating in a faked polygraph test. At the close of the press conference, Sinclair was arrested inside the press club by US Marshals and DC police, apparently based on an old Delaware warrant.
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OOPSIE... Delaware??? WTF?

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Weeeeeeee, look at me - I'm riding the internetz - but I musta took a wrong turn, cause I can't see no abyss.... :-bd

Emma wrote:
With all due respect to our beloved Foogie, my mostest favorite part is the Paul Revere analogy of Orly and her minions 'riding the internet and jumping into the abyss...'.

Powerful. Beautiful. It brings a tear to my eye *sniff*


And I am missing the setting sun, the blazing red sky and the teal and orange receding horizon - all shot in vitascopic panoramavision, or rather, glorious television, as Blackadder would say.

And the name of the horse! It only becomes legend if we know the name of the horse. What is the name of the horse Paul RevereIrey is riding into an abyss of murky waters?

My suggestion is Dead Beauty, of course. Because the birfers should stop flogging him.

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The files were posted on whitehouse.com for all the world to see ...


Awww ... my source said it was a porn site, but now it's about college loans and stuff.


Too bad for the change. Orly linking the court to a porn site would have been brilliant!

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Never mind. :D

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US District Court Judge Calls Taitz On Fraudulently Obtained Documents
http://www.larrysinclair.org/2011/09/01/us-district-court-judge-calls-taitz-on-fraudulently-obtained-documents/
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With that said we would like to explain that if you hired an Attorney to represent you in any civil or criminal case you would not pay an Attorney who had no understanding or knowledge of the law. If you hired an Attorney who constantly filed fake documents or knowingly participated in obtaining evidence by fraudulent means you would fire them. Bottom line these Judges who are being attacked because of Orly Taitz own incompetence and her own history of making false claims as to how the Courts have ruled is just wrong. People should stop and think and question without being blinded by the fairy tales they have been told over the course of two plus years by Orly Taitz. Orly Taitz should be thankful that Judge Lamberth did not have her jailed for contempt or worse. Unlike Taitz, Larry is not a licensed attorney, but yet Larry has defended against Parisi in this same US District Court in DC and has complied with the Courts rules on electronic filings etc.

Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth’s opinion and ORDER is proper under the law, and his pointing out the filing of documents obtained by fraudulent means was not only proper, but in our opinion was long over due as it pertains to Orly Taitz history.
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The courage needed to look at her arguments dwarfed the time needed to read it, but I found that again we had dome indefinite articles missing and some other jollities, but obviously, this was not her work. If I had given students the assignment to write a persiflage of an Orly filing, and a student had handed this in, I would give it a 14 on 20. Looks good, but considering that I would give a 12 to anything that was double translated via Google Translate, no more than a good effort.

But seriously, I did not read the first draft, but I can tell you that this thing is fun for non-lawyers:

1) it starts on page one with Orly proclaiming herself pro se and mentioning her party should henceforth be recognized as "Taitz". Does not stop her from calling herself the Plaintiff all over the rest of the text, and even calling the Paul Reveres she is driving into the abyss her clients-plaintiffs

2) page 2: "Opposition by the defendant did not oppose". Ok, so if they argue that your motion for reconsideration is out of order, and stick to the rules to explain why, the fact that they do not mention the points you made (but were not allowed to make) means that they concede those points? Oh, wait, this is a constitutional crisis, forgot that. Damn the rules.

3) page 2 conveniently continues with "emergency situation". This is where birther blogger Taitz takes over the conversation and addresses the judge 'in his own lexicon'" and without any preparatory build-up (the unproven claims are mentioned later), calls Obama a criminal. Most of us are endured to that sort of thing coming from Taitz, but is the judge? If she dictated this, she was so busy wiping the foam from her lips after the unproven claim harangue (stolen ... forged... unknown allegiance) that she forgot "in charge of the White House".

4) page three contunues the harangue style, with short juxtaposed sentences that suggest a "bitter" argument in a brown ale pub rather than a carefully thought out appeal to a judge. It is noteworthy, however, that Taitz is here claiming that there may indeed be such a thing as criminal and even treasonous behavior by lawyers in a court case. I wonder what the International Criminal Bar thinks about that. And whether the California Bar is going to take her up on that argument.

5) and then Taitz starts on her montagne russe ride to obfuscate what we all know about the evidence she provided: a) whatever she got from Adobe Illustrator's insight in Obama's tax returns, the fact remains that both Hollister and Jordan got their information illegally. b) Jordan's information may have come late, but she could have asked that woman to do whatever she did earlier; it would have been as illegal as it is now, but it could have been available before - so the Defendant is right to object. Of course, when Taitz writes on page six, "and what can be done to abate it" - we know that she has just proven one important point: Taitz, pro se, or with her 200+ Paul Reveres does not have STANDING. Oops, the secret is out: whatever the evidence, this case is about nothing and leading nowhere.

6) in her demi-urge to make points that no birther has made before, on page eight we are being told that there are 57 Muslim that Obama owes allegaince to. In view of where some of the malware now and then hosted on her website seems to come from, I am very interested to know whether Kazakhstan is one of the 57.

7) on the same page eight, the information that was claimed to be new a few pages ago (Obama's tax returns) suddenly becomes evidence that should have been acted upon by the Department of Justice ... years ago. Oh, yes, before he became President, that makes sense. Only they did not, and they were under the command of GWB then. OK, I again forgot that we are having a constitutional crisis of biblical proportions. Wait again, it is no longer a constitutional crisis, it is an "exigent matter in the history of the nation".

8) as for Orly continuing to send cc: to the International Criminal Bar,the map here says it all. Old-timers will find it particularly interesting that Angola is not a member either. But Moldova is. Since 2010.

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I occasionally skim fogbow to see what Orly's up to. Unfortunately I'm a bit of a pedant, so I must speak up...

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Inured. You meant inured.

Now, here's hoping I didn't make a typo while playing the role of grammar police [-o< .


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My favorite part:

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In their attempts to encourage the Court to read the list of “directly and tangibly interested” parties as exhaustive rather than illustrative, Defendants fail to reference the recent case of Justice v. Fuddy, 125 Hawai’i 104, 253 P.3d 665 (2011), which dealt with this sort of request before Obama’s public release of a PDF image of a “birth certificate” in April 2011. Significantly, the Court in Justice did not hold, and did not specifically address, whether the list of directly and tangibly interested persons is exlusive or not.


I'm not a lawyer, but I've got to think that if I were a lawyer trying to make a point, I'd only refer to cases that addressed that point. I certainly wouldn't call out my opponent for failing to cite a case and then say "well it didn't specifically address" the point in question. I'm probably not missing something, but I just want to check: is this really as stupid as it looks? Is this just an attempt to bring up the other case to try to re-argue it?


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Paul - the piece of trash Taitz has defecated on the District Court is a 0 out of 20. Poorly written, poorly conceived, irrelevant to the issues presented, unresponsive to the trenchant opposition, contumacious, without legal or factual support, and filled with blather. Anyone presenting this trash to a court should be summarily disbarred.

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US District Court Judge Calls Taitz On Fraudulently Obtained Documents
http://www.larrysinclair.org/2011/09/01/us-district-court-judge-calls-taitz-on-fraudulently-obtained-documents/
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With that said we would like to explain that if you hired an Attorney to represent you in any civil or criminal case you would not pay an Attorney who had no understanding or knowledge of the law. If you hired an Attorney who constantly filed fake documents or knowingly participated in obtaining evidence by fraudulent means you would fire them. Bottom line these Judges who are being attacked because of Orly Taitz own incompetence and her own history of making false claims as to how the Courts have ruled is just wrong. People should stop and think and question without being blinded by the fairy tales they have been told over the course of two plus years by Orly Taitz. Orly Taitz should be thankful that Judge Lamberth did not have her jailed for contempt or worse. Unlike Taitz, Larry is not a licensed attorney, but yet Larry has defended against Parisi in this same US District Court in DC and has complied with the Courts rules on electronic filings etc.

Chief Judge Royce C. Lamberth’s opinion and ORDER is proper under the law, and his pointing out the filing of documents obtained by fraudulent means was not only proper, but in our opinion was long over due as it pertains to Orly Taitz history.
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Wow. Aside from is mention that he does believe there's a legitimate question about Obama's eligibility based on his father's citizenship at the time Obama was born, there's a whole lot of actual sense being made in that post. That's just f'ing scary!

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8) as for Orly continuing to send cc: to the International Criminal Bar,the map here says it all. Old-timers will find it particularly interesting that Angola is not a member either. But Moldova is. Since 2010.


I find it particularly amusing that the US is not a member of the ICB - meaning that no matter how much stuff she sends to them, how "conclusive" her "evidence" is or how "righteous" her cause, the ICB can't do jack shit about it.

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Posting this here because the author is "involved" in Taitz v Astrue... sorta. :D
And she is apparently dumb as a post.

From the P&E.

Tables Turned on White House Press Corps :lol:

PRESS RELEASE
October 3, 2011

The following has been sent to the White House Correspondents Association, AP, Bloomberg, CBS News, The Chicago News Tribune, The Christian Science Monitor, Fox News, National Public Radio, The New York Times, The Wall St. Journal, The Washington Post, The Seattle Times, and The Seattle PI.

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1. Why is Barack Obama using a Social Security Number, issued out of Connecticut in 1977, when he was 15 years old and living in Hawaii? Keep in mind that if you are over 12 years old you have to apply for your SSN in person.

2. The President held a press conference on April 27th, 2011. He announced that he had requested a waiver from the Hawaii Department of Health (DOH), in order to obtain a photo copy of his original, long-form, Certificate of Live Birth instead of the computer generated Certification of Live Birth per Hawaii DOH policy. He gave the press a letter from his lawyer Judith Corley requesting the waiver and a letter from Hawaii DOH Director Loretta Fuddy granting the waiver. This waiver allowed the President to get a photo copy of his original birth certificate. But he did not post a photo copy on the White House website he posted a computer generated document. You don’t need a waiver from the Hawaii DOH to get a computer generated birth record and scanning a photo copy in to a computer does not turn it in to a computer generated document. So where is the photo copy of the President’s Certificate of Live Birth and why did he lie about posting it?

Press Challenge: Forget about whether or not the President will answer these questions. Can YOU answer them?

Linda Jordan, Seattle WA Contact: x.xxxxx@comcast.net


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[Linda's contact posted by Sharon, redacted here by moi]

What a moron.

Yet another of Rondeau's sourced, well-researched and accurate presentations.

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I noticed in the most recent turd Orly dropped on poor, besieged Judge Lambreth, that she is asserting that the E-Verify results are "proof" that Obama does not have a valid SSN. But that isn't the case at all. To use E-Verify, you have to give it a name and a social security number so it can see if they match. If they do, great. If they don't, ALL that has been proved is that the number and name submitted don't go together. It tells you NOTHING about whether the person was ever associated with the number submitted, nor does it tell you if that name is associated with ANY OTHER SSN.

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Linda should call Savannah Guthrie. On April 27, Savannah Guthrie reported to Brian Williams that she was shown one of the certified copies and touched the raised seal.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42779923/ns/politics-white_house/ At 3:47.


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That doesn't count. Ms Guthrie is part of the conspiracy.


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