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At the request of tea party leaders in Arizona, famed Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has promised to investigate the validity of Barack Obama's purported long-form birth certificate in a determination of the president's eligibility for the county's 2012 election ballot.

Tea party leaders in Surprise, Ariz., met with Arpaio and WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi Thursday morning to express concern that a fake birth certificate would be used to document the president's eligibility to run in Maricopa County, where Arpaio is the chief law enforcement officer.

Arpaio's tough crackdown on illegal immigration has made him a national figure.

At a one-hour meeting in Arpaio's office, the tea party leaders presented the sheriff with a petition that was drafted after a speech by Corsi the previous night. Corsi, author of a best-selling book challenging Obama's eligibility, "Where's the Birth Certificate?", presented evidence from numerous computer-imaging specialists who believe the document presented by the White House April 27 is not authentic.

Read more: Arizona sheriff promises Obama-eligibility probe http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=335261#ixzz1VRFYQrCt

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Reported by WND? It must be correct. Anything in the WND today about aliens from Uranus?

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What took so long? He's wrong about everything else (and blatantly criminal about most of what he does) so why wait so long to join the moron brigade?


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Surely Sheriff Joe is the man for the job. After all, isn't a Sheriff the supreme law enforcement officer in our great country? :-?

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What took so long? He's wrong about everything else (and blatantly criminal about most of what he does) so why wait so long to join the moron brigade?


I have serious doubts whether Joe told the biker teabaggers from Surprise that he'd investigate anything related to their BS. He's a lot of things but he's not that stupid.

Besides... WTF is he going to investigate? He doesn't have access to any document from HI, and won't get it.

I call bullshit on Corsi/WND.

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Either one is believable: joe is going simpleton rogue, or corsi lying his behind off about the whole thing.


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Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Lt. Justin Griffin confirmed to WND that Arpaio is "waiting to receive all the documentation and all the investigative material from Dr. Jerry Corsi, and then he will look into the matter and compare it to the Arizona revised statutes."


And just exactly what do you think the Secretary of State in '08 (JAN BREWER) will say when asked if she followed the AZ statutes? =))

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Notice there's no quote from Arpaio in the article? But whatever, this is going to make for great CNN if they can tie both the tea party and Arpaio to the birthers. AC360 riduculist and Brooke Baldwin smirk in 3 2 1... \:D/


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Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Lt. Justin Griffin confirmed to WND that Arpaio is "waiting to receive all the documentation and all the investigative material from Dr. Jerry Corsi, and then he will look into the matter and compare it to the Arizona revised statutes."



he blew them off...

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Besides, what jurisdiction does the Sheriff - even one as blatantly corrupt as Joe Arpaio - have over who goes on his county's ballot? Isn't that the job of, oh, I dunno, the elections office for that county??

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The thread should be retitled: WND CLAIMS SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO HAS GONE BIRTHER

In other words, this WND article is as reliable as any other WND article. It's reliably false.

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We the undersigned citizens are respectfully requesting that you [highlight]initiate a criminal investigation under the authority of A.R.S. 13-2407 A-C[/highlight], Into the alleged Certificate of Live Birth, File Number 151 61 10641, State of Hawaii, for Barack H. Obama II. The document was released on April 27, 2011, by the White House to the press and posted on the White House website and distributed and downloaded by computer throughout the nation, including within Maricopa County. Reportedly, [highlight]several experts have declared the document to be a forgery. Reportedly, the file number may be out of sequence; "THE" appears to be misspelled as "TXE" in the State Registrar's stamp; there appears to be a "smiley face" in the "A" in the Alvin T. Onaka, State Registrar stamp; reportedly the document has computer generated, multiple layers and is not a copy of a single layered document; font types appear to vary throughout the document, reportedly, not possible with a vintage 1961 mechanical typewriter[/highlight]. We urge you to continue to support the Rule of Law and to investigate and determine whether the alleged Certificate of Live Birth, for Barack H. Obama II, File Number 151 61 10641, is a forgery or an authentic document. A.R.S. 13-2407 A-C, declares that tampering with a public record is a class 6 felony.

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1. Makes or completes a written instrument, knowing that it has been falsely made, which purports to be a public record or true copy thereof or alters or makes a false entry in a written instrument which is a public record or a true copy of a public record; or

2. Presents or uses a written instrument which is or purports to be a public record or a copy of such public record, knowing that it has been falsely made, completed or altered or that a false entry has been made, with intent that it be taken as genuine; or

3. Records, registers or files or offers for recordation, registration or filing in a governmental office or agency a written statement which has been falsely made, completed or altered or in which a false entry has been made or which contains a false statement or false information; or

4. Destroys, mutilates, conceals, removes or otherwise impairs the availability of any public record; or

5. Refuses to deliver a public record in such person's possession upon proper request of a public servant entitled to receive such record for examination or other purposes.

B. In this section [highlight]"public record" means all official books, papers, written instruments or records created, issued, received or kept by any governmental office or agency or required by law to be kept by others for the information of the government[/highlight].

C. Tampering with a public record is a class 6 felony.

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So okay, this could be fun!

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Arizona sheriff promises Obama-eligibility probe
Lawman responds to request from local tea-party leaders


At the request of tea party leaders in Arizona, famed Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has promised to investigate the validity of Barack Obama's purported long-form birth certificate in a determination of the president's eligibility for the county's 2012 election ballot.

Tea party leaders in Surprise, Ariz., met with Arpaio and WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi Thursday morning to express concern that a fake birth certificate would be used to document the president's eligibility to run in Maricopa County, where Arpaio is the chief law enforcement officer.

Arpaio's tough crackdown on illegal immigration has made him a national figure.

At a one-hour meeting in Arpaio's office, the tea party leaders presented the sheriff with a petition that was drafted after a speech by Corsi the previous night. Corsi, author of a best-selling book challenging Obama's eligibility, "Where's the Birth Certificate?", presented evidence from numerous computer-imaging specialists who believe the document presented by the White House April 27 is not authentic.

Read more: Arizona sheriff promises Obama-eligibility probe http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=335261#ixzz1VRFYQrCt


Wait; Justin told us birferism was dead just a few days ago.

Who's punking us?

Corsi is desperate. He will whore himself out to anyone at this point.

Good luck, Joe. Birferism isn't going over that well since April 27th, 2011.

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Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Lt. Justin Griffin confirmed to WND that Arpaio is "waiting to receive all the documentation and all the investigative material from Dr. Jerry Corsi, and then he will look into the matter and compare it to the Arizona revised statutes."


And just exactly what do you think the Secretary of State in '08 (JAN BREWER) will say when asked if she followed the AZ statutes? =))



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Notice there's no quote from Arpaio in the article? But whatever, this is going to make for great CNN if they can tie both the tea party and Arpaio to the birthers. AC360 riduculist and Brooke Baldwin smirk in 3 2 1... \:D/




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The petition calls for the sheriff to investigate the possibility that a crime has been committed against the Arizona secretary of state, who must decide whether to put Obama's name on the ballot.

Arpaio told the tea party leaders the complaint is within his jurisdiction, and he will be forced to investigate. He said he expects political pressure I see what you did right there, WND :-bd , but he pointed out that as the chief law enforcement officer of Maricopa County, he's taken an oath to respond to citizens who approach him about enforcing the law.
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"I think what we've seen is history created today," said Surprise tea party leader Brian Reilly."This is probably the first time in this country that citizens have gone to a sheriff over a national issue."


This is the result of the great TP brain trust in AZ??? The AZ TP is seriously birfer. Can you imagine the sweat that was poured at meetings as the Great Arizona Tea Party Brain Trust hatched this plan? It so brilliant!! It is almost Orly'esque in its brilliance.

Speaking of Orly; she already has WND's story posted on her site: :evil: xxxhttp://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=24775 :evil:
(Note: I expect a comment from Orly by noon tomorrow explaining that she has called Sheriff Joe to offer her approval and assistance. She will report that Sheriff Joe was very receptive to her suggestions and grateful for her offer of assistance. By 3pm, she will have purchased a plane ticket for the meeting she thinks she has scheduled with Joe. After all, when someone says "let me poke around a bit", they really mean "please show up at my office ASAP with your 2 suitcases of evidence".)

If a crime is committed against someone, aren't they the one to ask for an investigation? I can't go to the police and say "I think that xyz happened 3 years ago. You should investigate." There has to be something to spark an investigation. This ain't that something.

Of course, once Sheriff Joe receives all of the "documentation" from Corsi, he will promptly decide that there is nothing to investigate. But that decision is in itself an investigation. (See how that works, Jerry?) Reading provided documents could be defined as "an investigation". Of course, Joe will tell the birfers that "political influences" barred efforts to investigate this issue.

Sheriff Joe is too damn smart for this. He has kept the FBI and DOJ hunting after him for 3 years now.

Now, I've never known Joe to crack a smile, but he looks seriously uncomfortable standing next to birfers. Jerry looks positively radiant in picture #2.

The story has hit the Daily Kos.

The only other mentions of this article are on birther and obot blogs.

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It is stupidity but I suspect there is more to the story.. but I think the gist of it is...

"Yeah, sure, I'll look into it" with eyes rolling... in other words, he was probably trying to be a politician... for he must know he has no authority in this. And he must know he would have no ability to discern the validity of the document.


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pony prayers, anyone?

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OHHHHHHH BABY!

If it IS a fraud (IMO it is!) Joe has the National name recognition to blow it up big.
["um, joe who ... ?" (d. trump)] If the Hawaiian judge sides with Orly and makes Fuddy show the "original" (IMO there isn't one) we are off to the races folks!

21 posted on August 19, 2011 12:27:08 AM EDT by sklar


if.

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No, Dr. Corsi put up two posts on Facebook in the last few hours, and he says Sheriff Joe "PROMISED".

Yay.



He wouldn't risk his credibility by telling his Facebook friends that, if it wasn't true. This isn't like all the other times that he promised something to his Facebook friends that never had a chance of coming true. This time it's REAL.

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OHHHHHHH BABY!

If it IS a fraud (IMO it is!) Joe has the National name recognition to blow it up big.
["um, joe who ... ?" (d. trump)] If the Hawaiian judge sides with Orly and makes Fuddy show the "original" (IMO there isn't one) we are off to the races folks!

21 posted on August 19, 2011 12:27:08 AM EDT by sklar


if.
If Orly actually had a legitimate case, this would be done already. She doesn't

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No, Dr. Corsi put up two posts on Facebook in the last few hours, and he says Sheriff Joe "PROMISED".

Yay.



He wouldn't risk his credibility by telling his Facebook friends that, if it wasn't true. This isn't like all the other times that he promised something to his Facebook friends that never had a chance of coming true. This time it's REAL.


And if Arpaio doesn't actually live up to the Birthers' "promised" expectations, and instead ends up filing their petition in the trash bin next to his desk, we can surely look forward to the Birthers claiming that Arpaio was pressured into silence by the White House.

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I have serious doubts whether Joe told the biker teabaggers from Surprise that he'd investigate anything related to their BS. He's a lot of things but he's not that stupid.

Besides... WTF is he going to investigate? He doesn't have access to any document from HI, and won't get it.


I took note of this in the article:

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The petition calls for the sheriff to investigate the possibility that a crime has been committed against the Arizona secretary of state, who must decide whether to put Obama's name on the ballot.

Arpaio told the tea party leaders the complaint is within his jurisdiction, and he will be forced to investigate.


That, by itself, seems to me to be a highly unlikely depiction of the meeting. So Arpaio is presented with a petition with 242 signatures, and he says that he is "forced to investigate"? BS. He has discretion as sheriff; he's surely not "forced to investigate" the claims of every wacky petition he's given, simply because it would procedurally fall under his jurisdiction.

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Naturally, the camera is pointed AWAY from the speaker, rather than TOWARDS him, so it's rather difficult to tell who's talking.

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This seems to be a Federal Matter there Joe...Jurisdiction??? (snicker)

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Makes me miss our Arizona folks... :(

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Naturally, the camera is pointed AWAY from the speaker, rather than TOWARDS him, so it's rather difficult to tell who's talking.

Assuming that the person standing at the podium lectern is speaking, then it's Corsi. It's hard to be sure given the poor video and audio.

325 people times min $5. How much did Corsi get?

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Assuming that the person standing at the podium lectern is speaking, then it's Corsi. It's hard to be sure given the poor video and audio.

325 people times min $5. How much did Corsi get?


Let's see, according to wiki (quoting the 2010 census):

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Phoenix is home to 1,445,632 people according to the official 2010 U.S. Census Bureau data,[2] it is the anchor of the Phoenix metropolitan area (also known as the Valley of the Sun) and is the 12th largest metro area by population in the United States with about 4.4 million people in 2009.


So, Corsi got 325 people to show, out of 1,145,632, or 325/4,400,000. That's quite a showing!

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