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Warren Jeffs Sentenced to Life in Prison for Sex With Underage Girls.

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Jurors deliberated for just under 30 minutes before ordering Jeffs to serve life in prison on one count of aggravated sexual assault of a child and 20 years in prison on one count of sexual assault of a child. They also determined Jeffs must pay a $10,000 fine.

Jeffs, 55, must serve half of each of those sentences — a total of 45 years — before he could become eligible for parole if he lived to the age of 100.

In a closing statement given Tuesday morning, prosecutor Eric Nichols told the jury the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints leader was a man who "perverted a religion to his own ends" and treated women and children not as human beings but as "property for sexual gratification and child bearing."

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Prosecutors rested their case against Jeffs in the sentencing phase of his trial on Monday. Jurors last week convicted Jeffs in connection with two plural marriages to girls ages 12 and 15.

During the sentencing phase, prosecutors presented evidence of other so-called bad acts committed by Jeffs. Jurors were told Jeffs took a total of 78 plural wives, including 12 girls he wed at age 16 and another 12 he married at age 15 or younger, according to evidence and testimony presented in court Monday.

Jurors heard several audio recordings of what prosecutors said was Jeffs giving sexual instruction to underage wives and even having intercourse in a baptismal font inside a temple at the sect’s Yearning for Zion Ranch in Eldorado.


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What a pile of shit Warren Jeffs is. I'm all for plural marriages of consenting adults, but grown men taking advantage of teenage girls is absolutely disgusting. I spit in Warren Jeffs' general direction.

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He's a serial pedophile. And worse.

(And I'm not sure what can be worse. But he is.)

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
He's a serial pedophile. And worse.

(And I'm not sure what can be worse. But he is.)


What makes him worse is that he convinced people--even the parents of these girls--that his having sex with young girls was a good and necessary thing sanctioned by God.

Compared to filth like Jeffs, even Orly looks like a decent human being.


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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
He's a serial pedophile. And worse.

(And I'm not sure what can be worse. But he is.)


What makes him worse is that he convinced people--even the parents of these girls--that his having sex with young girls was a good and necessary thing sanctioned by God.

Compared to filth like Jeffs, even Orly looks like a decent human being.

Now let's not go exaggerating for effect when the effect is so laughable. [-X

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Plutodog wrote:
AnitaMaria wrote:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
He's a serial pedophile. And worse.

(And I'm not sure what can be worse. But he is.)


What makes him worse is that he convinced people--even the parents of these girls--that his having sex with young girls was a good and necessary thing sanctioned by God.

Compared to filth like Jeffs, even Orly looks like a decent human being.

Now let's not go exaggerating for effect when the effect is so laughable. [-X


All right. How about this: Pedophiles are the lowest form of humanity and, to the best of my knowledge, Orly Taitz is not a pedophile.


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Nice that they got Jeffs, but now his sicko brother will take over. And what about all the other male "priesthood" holders in the cult, who will continue these practices?

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Lucas Smith should take note of this case.

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Boris Nudelmann wrote:
Nice that they got Jeffs, but now his sicko brother will take over. And what about all the other male "priesthood" holders in the cult, who will continue these practices?


Currently, Jeffs is still controlling the group from prison. I'm not certain that this will change in the near future.

I think that the FLDS may make a change in marrying under-aged girls; time will tell. So far, Jeffs and 7 other men have received prison time for marrying under-aged girls. Jeff's trial aired some pretty disturbing stuff; he made audio recordings of some of his sex sessions with his young brides. Other women were in the room at the time. To my knowledge, sex was between Jeffs and his new child wife, but other women were present during his "teaching" sessions.

I will find more info and share it this afternoon. I think that this trial has opened the door for the FLDS to examine and to alter some of their most egregious acts. Whether or not the church leadership chooses to learn from this is up to them.

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LMK, I doubt anything will change. They have to start these girls reproducing early, so that they can bear 12 or so children in their lifetimes. Remember, most of the victims refuse to testify. The reason the Jeffs prosecution was successful was that the State obtained the recordings of the rapes during the raids, and even then other courts suppressed those recordings. I doubt the other rapists will make the same mistake. Sorry to be a pessimist here, but in a cult of over 10,000, these prosecutions will be a proverbial drop in the bucket. Also, too, many cult members live in other jurisdictions that don't seem too anxious to prosecute (well AZ did but screwed up the jury instructions).

It will be interesting to see if Warren Jeffs can continue to run the cult from prison. I heard that while in jail awaiting trial, Jeffs was spending over $10,000 a month on phone calls (phone cards donated by his followers, while our tax dollars were paying for their food through the food stamp scams they have going). I don't know for sure, but I suspect Jeffs' phone privileges won't be as liberal in prison.

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Prosecutors in Texas are now considering whether to file charges against the women -- other "wives" of Warren Jeffs -- who were complicit in his child sexual assaults. At one point in the tape recordings, Jeffs can be heard instructing "Naomi" to untie the girl(s). Texas law does not provide a double standard for the crime of child sexual abuse.

Although some news reports say that most of Jeffs' FLDS followers are unaware of his conviction because of their isolation from the rest of the world, other news reports say that followers are building a 38' tall statue in honor of their imprisoned "prophet." Many news reports say that Jeffs is still running the cult from a telephone in jail, including excommunicating members and issuing other orders. He has a contender for leadership of the cult, William E. Jessop, who has written a warning to the faithful (letter on Scribd).

Two municipal authorities have been indicted for corruption ("misusing public funds and participating in 'a criminal syndicate'") in the main base of the cult, Colorado City, Ariz. A court battle continues over a trust fund reportedly worth $110 million; although members of the cult frequently apply for social welfare benefits, it may have substantial resources.

The cult moved women from place to place, including across international boundaries. RCMP are now investigating how women from B.C. ended up in FLDS towns in the U.S.

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Break up the cult, prosecute all of the adults involved, and place the children in foster care. That's the only way to end this cycle of pedophilia by cult.

As Wikipedia observes about the twin towns that harbor these pedophiles:
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The Colorado City/Hildale, Utah area has the world's highest incidence of fumarase deficiency, an extremely rare genetic condition which causes severe mental retardation. Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town's founders, Joseph Smith Jessop and John Y. Barlow; at least half the double community's roughly 8,000 inhabitants are descended from one or both.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Break up the cult, prosecute all of the adults involved, and place the children in foster care. That's the only way to end this cycle of pedophilia by cult.

As Wikipedia observes about the twin towns that harbor these pedophiles:
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The Colorado City/Hildale, Utah area has the world's highest incidence of fumarase deficiency, an extremely rare genetic condition which causes severe mental retardation. Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town's founders, Joseph Smith Jessop and John Y. Barlow; at least half the double community's roughly 8,000 inhabitants are descended from one or both.

I had not heard a word about the high incidence of mental retardation in their community.

What do they do with those with such a low (25!?!) IQ? I'll bet that needs to be investigated!

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February 2006 Deseret News Birth defect is plaguing children in FLDS towns
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Fumarase Deficiency is an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation, epileptic seizures and other cruel effects that leave children nearly helpless and unable to take care of themselves.

Dr. Theodore Tarby has treated many of the children at clinics in Arizona under contracts with the state. All are retarded. "In the severe category of mental retardation," the neurologist said, "which means an IQ down there around 25 or so."

Until a few years ago, scientists knew of only 13 cases of Fumarase Deficiency in the entire world. Tarby said he's now aware of 20 more victims, all within a few blocks of each other on the Utah-Arizona border.

The children live in the polygamist community once known as Short Creek that is now incorporated as the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. Tarby believes the recessive gene for Fumarase Deficiency was introduced to the community by one of its early polygamist founders.

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Until a few years ago, scientists knew of only 13 cases of Fumarase Deficiency in the entire world. Tarby said he's now aware of 20 more victims, all within a few blocks of each other on the Utah-Arizona border.

The children live in the polygamist community once known as Short Creek that is now incorporated as the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. Tarby believes the recessive gene for Fumarase Deficiency was introduced to the community by one of its early polygamist founders.

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Perhaps worth a discussion in a new thread:

Fumarase Deficiency seems to be a specialty within this community.

But there is a long term biological experiment running with marriage among close relatives, eg cousins. It's name is Islam. For some 1500 years (give or take) they have been practicing cousin marriage. From what I picked from some web articles and YouTube clips a few months ago, the results are statistically significant. Overall the IQ among the Muslim population practicing cousin marriage is some 15 points lower than global average. It was mentioned that this may be one of the reasons why the world as yet to see any significant contributions by Muslims to science, and why they have yet to produce a Nobel Prize winner. In addition this population share an enormous number of child birth defects. I understand that both the UK and Sweden have a special load of young patients stemming only from the local Muslim communities, in the UK especially from Pakistani origin. The report noted the whole of Saudi Arabia with identical medical issues.


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First cousin marriage is permissible among Jews, too, and that doesn't seem to have affected their disproportionality in the Nobel Prize-winning ranks.

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New thread Marriage rules and inherited traits

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I somehow overlooked the fact that there are tapes as evidence in this case. :-? So not only did this pervert rape underage girls, he videotaped it too? :o

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I somehow overlooked the fact that there are tapes as evidence in this case. :-? So not only did this pervert rape underage girls, he videotaped it too? :o


The tapes were part of his travel kit; they were in his vehicle when he was caught, along with multiple disguises, tens of thousands in cash, and about a dozen cell phones.

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From ABCNews/u.s.

Warren Jeffs In Coma, May Not Survive

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Warren Jeffs, the polygamous sect leader and convicted child rapist, is in a coma and may not survive, a source close to Jeffs tells ABC News.

Jeffs, 55, had been fasting for the past three days and became so weak that doctors at the Texas prison where he is serving a life sentence induced a coma, according to the source.

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He is now being treated at the East Texas Medical Facility in Tyler, Texas, the nearest major medical center to the Powledge Unit, Michelle Lyons, spokesperson for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice , told ABC News.

Lyons said Jeffs is in "critical but stable condition," but added, "I cannot confirm that he is in a coma."


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Typical pedophile religious zealot - check out when the going gets rough. I was hoping he would do some real significant time.

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I thought it was a bit odd that three days of "fasting" would put Jeffs in critical condition. A little more light, perhaps, from the Salt Lake City Tribune:

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Polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs has been rushed to a Texas hospital following a fast, a prison official said Monday.

Jeffs was taken to the East Texas Medical Center in Tyler Sunday night in critical condition.

"Jeffs has not been eating/taking in fluids as he should," Texas prison spokesman Jason Clark said in a press release. "He indicated he was not on a hunger strike but fasting. [highlight]The inmate also has other medical conditions that have risen to the level of needing hospitalization."[/highlight]

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This is not the first time prison fasts have landed Jeffs at a hospital. While he was awaiting trial on accomplice to rape charges in Utah in 2007, Jeffs had to be force fed following self-imposed fasts and had open sores on his knees from long periods spent praying.


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I thought it was a bit odd that three days of "fasting" would put Jeffs in critical condition. A little more light, perhaps, from the Salt Lake City Tribune:


For some reason, most of these news stories neglect to mention he was not taking water either.

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