In other words, the Norwegians fought back. With those guns (and torpedoes), they sank the Nazi heavy cruiser Blücher.

From Monday's memorial march in Oslo, for which 100,000-200,000 people may have turned out.



A picture gallery at International Business Times

That's beautiful! Looks like a garden. So sad.

In the larger format in the picture gallery, it looks even more like a garden of white and red roses on green stems until you scroll down to the people in the very first rows.

Another photo taken after the march of two women placing roses into the fence surrounding the blast site. I have "hidden" it mainly because I don't think some of our lurkers have the humanity to merit seeing such a picture.

That is very beautiful, Tollie.

250,000 showed up for the vigil. The population of Oslo is approximately 500,000. That's how you respond. That's how you take your city back.

Dr. Susan Brooks Thislethwaite is an "On Faith" columnist for The Washington Post. Her "When Christianity becomes lethal" column is not being well-received by the Christian right.

OK. I was not going to mention it, but here it is:

"Gracious Lord, Father of all mankind, deliver us from the evils of political hatred campaigns and Christian fundamentalism."

from last Sunday's intercession prayers at our local Anglican church. The reader who read them (we are in-between ordained priests at the moment) was baptized as a Lutheran when living in Denmark, may explain why he felt personally involved.

I distinctly remember him saying "Christian fundamentalism" and not "religious fundamentalism", which is what I would have said if if had been me reading (but I had done the two Matins services before). I now realize I would have been wrong. It is un-Christian NOT to take the blame for your own sins and those of your friends. In order to be atoned and to improve.

I hope you're happy with having lost the most basic right any human has when it's a fascist state doing it. I'm not comfortable at all with it. Trample my rights, and I strike back, because any government afraid of mere speech has something very serious to hide. Such curbs on what you can say, hear and think may sound well and good when they're against people you don't like, but I am not sure why you expect that people with such power will always act benevolently or in your interest.

The Guardian July 26, 2011 Breivik sent 'manifesto' to 250 UK contacts hours before Norway killings



Breivik included members of the English Defence League in his mailing. That party is busily denying ever having had anything to do with him. Also, they never heard of anyone called "Sigurd (the Crusader)." And they know nothing about a meeting of the Knights Templar Europe in London in 2002.

The following is from 18-year old Emma's story as told by Dagbladet, a Norwegian newspaper:

...After a while, a little boy swam up to Emma. He told Emma his daddy was dead. Emma told the little boy he was a great swimmer and that he had to swim for daddy. The little boy told Emma: And I thought police were nice...

A mother exchanges text messages with her daughter Julie, who is on Utøya island. Julie, 16, survived.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14287822

I read that exchange this morning and could not believe how calm and sensible they both were through the ordeal. I did have to laugh when the mom started asking about future plans for something and the daughter gave a very teenage response along the lines of " I have my hands full right now. Let's worry about that once I get out of here.'

I was also thinking about the difference cell phones make in these situations. Here you had hundreds of kids calling in reporting the incident and alerting as it happened.

Bastid.

I read all the way to the last entry quite calmly. Then I was hyperventilating.

I have daughters, the youngest 22. I can see any of them being just that cool under pressure. But oh my god how terrifying, awful, cruel, evil.

I need to fight this evil.

There needs to be a way that in situations like this, those bits of intelligence are put on a GPS grid overlaid over a map so the people responding to the emergency have every bit of information they need available. Oh, and yeah, we need to balance privacy rights against this somehow.

I do know that if I were a person being shot at by an insane lunatic, I'd have zero concern about my privacy and would welcome law enforcement having GPS access to my phone as I was screaming "SAVE ME SAVE ME!"

I will still note that the scenarios where an evil lunatic is actually blasting bullets into the landscape are actually pretty rare. The media just makes a lot of them because that's how they make money.

Three days after the attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and an aircraft over Pennsylvania, the New York Times began the extraordinary series Portraits of Grief. These 200-word depictions of each of the known victims became a national gathering place, a memorial at which we could glimpse the lives that had been stolen.

Now that the names are being released of the victims of the right-wing Christian xenophobe Anders Breivik, we are beginning to see a similar memorial being erected. The Toronto Star has begun with Weep for the flower of Norway’s youth by Rosie DiManno.



Aleksander's body is still missing.

That is just beautiful - and exactly what I would have expected from Norway. Many of my ex's family still lives there and I have always been very impressed by the country and its people.

And Tolland that other photo put tears in my eyes.

I could see the teen rolling her eyes at that one.

I know what you're saying, but I disagree. I heard that as more like the way someone might respond if you were offering them a choice of the steak or the salmon, while they are putting the final card at the top of a tower of cards. Breath held, teeth clenched, "can't think about that right now." Not even enough psychic energy left over for an eyeroll. IMO

No, most of the recipients were English, but not all. They actually base it on the statement of a Belgian right-winger. It seems the killer sent the e-mail to quite a number of people in open CC: Of course, we will never know the names of those he sent it BCC: to.

Actually, the name Tanguy Veys is known to me (meaning I did not have to google what follows). In 2000, he beat up a student in Ghent and got 2 years' emprisonment (it was not the first time he used violence, but it was the first time the police arrested him). In the appeal court, the defense pleaded compassion: Tanguy had just been elected for the racist Vlaams Blok, now re-vamped as Vlaams Belang (calling them Flemish nationalist, as the Guardian does, is an insult to real and peaceful nationalist parties) and if sent to prison, would not be able to perform his civic duties. He got suspension. Actually, he did not need the suspension because Belgian prisons were so full at the time that no one with a condemnation up to less than three years actually got sent to prison (since then, we solved the problem of overcrowding by hiring cells in Dutch prisons).

The point is that Tanguy has been invading blogs every time his name gets mentioned to claim he was pronounced innocent. Of course, he was not. Suspension means it is the judge (and not the chief prison warden) who officially tells you you've done the crime but you won't do the time.

In the Vlaams Belang, Tanguy Veys is one of thr proponents of pro-Israel politics.
http://joodsactueel.be/2011/03/22/tangu ... van-troje/ (Tanguy Veys as a Trojan horse?)

No wonder he got the book e-mailed to him.

They moved Oslo!



Oh, never mind, just FauxNoise again.

Well that begins to explain why Glenn Beck thought it was a nazi youth camp.