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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:48 pm 
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......It is quite possible for a thief, money launderer, drug dealer, prostitute, and all-around liar to be raped.

Agree. I think he raped her, she lied about events before and after, but in a wealthy He Said/poor She Said sex crime, money gets a walk. He threw her down and attacked her, and she would make a terrible witness for the State. DA Cy Vance gives Rich Rapist a pass.

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Yes that's true Tolland, and the precariousness of her other ventures would, in one way of looking at things, suggest that she had ample reason not to become a focal point of a criminal investigation.

But she does come off as quite the operator. Manipulates the system to get asylum, slides right in with a sophisticated criminal network (likely connected with those who schooled her in the immigration process) and keeps the maid job as cover, while in the employ of a network that trusts her to hold 100 grand.

...and not just any criminal network, but an internationally connected criminal network. DSK's lawyers knew this and warned the prosecutor, and the prosecutor dug it up.

This case is going away, and so is she.

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I think it was a case of prostitution gone awry. With her other mysterious income, she didn't need to work as a maid ... so there were other perks with the hotel job that kept her there. It's been established that DKS had a habit of making lewd & suggestive comments to women, so quite likely that he suggested & she agreed, subject to specific terms, but;

a) He was unhappy with the quality of the service and stiffed her on the agreed payment, or
b) He paid the agreed amount, but she asked for more, but he refused, or
c) The sex was rough and/or he did things that were beyond what she had bargained for, or
d) Everything went as agreed, but she realized that she had an opportunity for blackmail -- or perhaps had known all along who he was an saw that opportunity from the outset.

So there's different levels of culpability in each scenario... but all are plausible.

The time line never quite made sense, nor did it make sense for DSK to call the hotel looking for his missing cell phone if he was fleeing the scene of a crime. The whole thing about his coming naked out of the bathroom never quite rung true to me either.

I don't see the prosecution sustaining their burden of proof on this one.


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Add to that her volunteering to do the VIP suites for a maid that was absent that day.

There's more than "sketchy girl got raped" here.

That escort agency wouldn't send girls around to him anymore because he was "rough".

These two meeting was almost what you'd call an accident waiting to happen

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Curious Blue wrote:
I don't see the prosecution sustaining their burden of proof on this one.


I agree on that. While I still believe it entirely possible there actually was a rape, when it's he said/she said, and she is a blatant liar whose credibility would be shredded on cross examination, no matter what mitigation the prosecution did on direct, the prosecution just can't eliminate a reasonable doubt. Her dubious connections even make the usually desperate "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!" defense available.

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Re my theory above, from the somewhat dubious source of the New York Post, apparently leaked via the defense, but salacious enough to warrant a repost here:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... JyA0RNbI/0

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The Sofitel housekeeper who claims the former IMF boss sexually assaulted her in his room was doing double duty as a prostitute, collecting cash on the side from male guests, The Post has learned.


More detail at the equally dubious Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/02/ho ... z1QwtUcWww

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A source close to the defense investigation told the Post that the Sofitel Hotel housekeeper would have sex with male guests at the hotel for money.

"There is information... of her getting extraordinary tips," the source told the Post.

The source also said that the maid had "a lot of her expenses -- hair braiding, salon expenses -- paid for by men not related to her."


There is also a report that she is part of a pyramid scheme targeting and ripping off immigrants from her native Guinea.


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The articles mention her tribe and her language which is probably more of an identifier than the country. The Fula are spread all over West Africa and are for the most part pastoralists. More background information here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulani

Her phones calls to two inmates were in her tribal language so it took awhile to get the calls translated.

As for those leaks from the defense about alleged prostitution activities.....I think I wait for something more solid. Will there be former clients willing to go on record? Extra large tips and men unrelated paying her hair braiding bill sounds a bit like jealous co-workers or acquaintances. It's all very messy. Her attorney sounds very capable.

http://thompsonwigdor.com/bios/kenneth_thompson.html

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At least she doesn't have Gloria Allred -- yet!

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It's sad her phone calls were recorded (an obscene symptom of the War On Some Drugs).

It's outrageous that sex workers in this country have virtually no standing in legal proceedings.


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It's sad if D S-K is the subject of an extortion, too.

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If he is.

I don't know who to believe at this point.


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It's all very messy.


Sounds like reasonable doubt to me.


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Yup. There will be a nolle prosequi. It's beginning to sound like the sex was consensual.

D S-K may now be elected President of France!

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It's sad her phone calls were recorded (an obscene symptom of the War On Some Drugs)..


The calls were recorded because she was talking to a person in jail. It is standard practice for jail phone calls to be recorded, and parties to the conversation are given a very clear (and usually repeated) warning that the call is being recorded (like loud beeping throughout).


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It's sad if D S-K is the subject of an extortion, too.


I feel more sorrow for the victims of his own extortion as head of the IMF.

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ZorbasLeGreque wrote:
John Thomas8 wrote:
It's sad her phone calls were recorded (an obscene symptom of the War On Some Drugs).

It's outrageous that sex workers in this country have virtually no standing in legal proceedings.


Well, she called into a prison.
For your second claim I agree with you. It is part of the AmericanHypocrisy (happy 4th of July to you all).


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DSK has been a bad boy in other places (allegedly) and is back in the negative limelight just as it seems his behaviour was going to be excused because the victim hooked on the side:

PARIS (AP writers Angela Charlton and Michael Wiessenstien via WRAL) — Dominique Strauss-Kahn faced a potential new sexual assault investigation Monday after a young French writer said she would formally accuse him of trying to rape her during a 2002 book interview — a dizzying turn of events just as the former IMF chief's fortunes seemed to be growing brighter.


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Accuser of DS-K is filing a defamation suit against NY Post :

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/05/new ... hpt=ju_bn2

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The prosecutor's motion to dismiss is a great read.

Remember what I said about semen and hotel rooms?

"Three of the other stains on the carpet contained the semen and DNA of three different unknown males, and one other stain contained amylase and a mixture of DNA from three additional unknown individuals. The stain on the wallpaper contained the semen and DNA of a fourth unknown male."

Same bullshit as the "semen in the bathroom in the Duke lacrosse story.

Anyway, the motion is worth a read for all those who gave me a hard time on this thread:

http://www.talkleft.com/legal/dskmotiontodismiss.pdf

This was bullshit from the word "go".

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Yuck. Now it's not just bedbugs that I have to worry about in hotels. I might get pregnant from the wallpaper!

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One of the news magazine TV shows did a hygiene survey of rooms in some upscale hotels and found semen and fecal matter in about all of them. :o

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TollandRCR wrote:
Yuck. Now it's not just bedbugs that I have to worry about in hotels. I might get pregnant from the wallpaper!

I tend to doubt that, Tollie. I believe you are too old to get pregnant.

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Yuck. Now it's not just bedbugs that I have to worry about in hotels. I might get pregnant from the wallpaper!


Not unless you do some really good tricks...Most folks would pay good money to see that...

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Want to read about some truly Byzantine politics? Check this out. The author is saying the whole thing with DSK may have been a political hit by Sarkozy after all.

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He knew he had a serious problem with one of his BlackBerry cell phones—which he called his IMF BlackBerry. This was the phone he used to send and receive texts and e-mails—including for both personal and IMF business. According to several sources who are close to DSK, he had received a text message that morning from Paris from a woman friend temporarily working as a researcher at the Paris offices of the UMP, Sarkozy’s center-right political party. She warned DSK, who was then pulling ahead of Sarkozy in the polls, that at least one private e-mail he had recently sent from his BlackBerry to his wife, Anne Sinclair, had been read at the UMP offices in Paris.1 It is unclear how the UMP offices might have received this e-mail, but if it had come from his IMF BlackBerry, he had reason to suspect he might be under electronic surveillance in New York. He had already been warned by a friend in the French diplomatic corps that an effort would be made to embarrass him with a scandal. The warning that his BlackBerry might have been hacked was therefore all the more alarming.

(the blackberry has never been found. Its GPS was turned off at 12:51 that day)
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Another person at the Accor Group whom Sheehan might have alerted was Xavier Graff, the duty officer at the Accor Group in Paris. Graff was responsible that weekend for handling emergencies at Accor Group hotels, including the Sofitel in New York. His name only emerged five weeks later when he sent a bizarre e-mail to his friend Colonel Thierry Bourret, the head of an environment and public health agency, claiming credit for “bringing down” DSK. After the e-mail was leaked to Le Figaro, Graff described it as a joke (it resulted, however, in his suspension as director of emergencies by the Accor Group). Even jokes can have a basis. In this case the joke was made by the person who was directly responsible for passing on information to his superiors, including the head of security at Accor, René-Georges Querry—information that, if acted on by informing the American authorities, could have helped destroy DSK’s career. But like Querry, Graff denied receiving any calls or messages from New York until later that evening, telling a French newspaper that the failure to inform him was an “incredible miss” (“loupé”).
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Orly's all over it also. Too. She links to the above article with the following header...

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=28327 :evil:

Were assault charges brought to cover illegal surveillance and bugging of the blackberry of the director of IMF Strauss-Kahn?
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