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Reality Check · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:05 am

Terry Krepel from ConWebWatch attended the press conference and has an article up on it.

The WND Birther Lawsuit Dog and Pony Show (And The Question Joseph Farah Won't Answer)

As timing would have it Terry will be on RC Radio tonight. :-bd

Check out this exchange:

Quote:

Finally, I tried to ask Farah if he could confirm Tim Adams' assertion that the affidavit he signed claiming that he had been told that no copy of Obama's birth certificate existed in state files was created by WND-affiliated lawyers. [Tim Adams admitted that on RC Radio] Here's how that exchange went:

FARAH: I really don't -- Terry, If you want to obsess about stuff like that, I invite you to do so. I would really like to focus on why the president of the United States and the White House are issuing bogus birth certificates rather than why somebody at WorldNetDaily, which lawyer they consulted to --

ME: But if you're creating news to forward the story --

FARAH: Terry, we all know your work.

ME: You're creating news and not reporting it.

FARAH: We appreciate all of the attention that you devote to WND.com. Thanks very much.

And with that the press conference came to an abrupt end.

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:06 am

Foggy wrote:

WND didn't release all the video.

Pt. 1: Farah introduces Corsi "to give you some background"; Corsi says:
- The book forced Obama to release the LFBC,
- It was a trap, now Obama is tied directly to the forgery,
- Mara Zebest will show you it's a forgery,
- Introduces Mara Zebest, and clip ends.
Pt. 2: Mara Zebest says she knew right away it was a forgery and she can tell you why, but the clip is only 1:48 in length and ends before she begins to tell you why.

Pt. 3. Mara Zebest gets a start on telling you why, but the clip is only 1:26 in length, and she barely gets started.

Part 1

File format : flv

Part 2

File format : flv

Part 3

File format : flv

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Over at drkate's house of hate and batshit crazy Troy is soooooo excited about the "National Press Conference." :lol:

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... /#comments

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Troy June 29, 2011 at 9:12 pm

I’m glad to see that WND / Farah & Corsi have finally held a [highlight]national press conference[/highlight]…. =))

I was hoping that they would and even suggested it a while back….Now, lets just see how it is ignored by the communist MSM (that means you too, Faux News!)

Anonymouse... not so much. Corsi f'd up.

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anonymouse June 29, 2011 at 11:33 pm

CORSI!! THE 20TH AMENDMENT REQUIRES CONGRESS TO VET PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES!! THEY VETTED MCCAIN BUT NEVER OBAMA!!

Corsi just made up an invalid “loophole” which doesn’t exist. It’s like he’s giving Obama an OUT, like yes he’s guilty but nobody required him to produce docs. That is FALSE.

I hates me some invalid loopholes.

=))

obsolete · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:26 am

Not to threadjack, but some quick info for Foggy and other non-Mac users:

Much is being made of the fact that the PDF scan of Obama's LFBC was done using Mac tools.

"Preview" is the name of the basic graphic application made by Apple that comes free with all Macs since OS X was introduced in 2001. It is quick & simple, and is the default program to open PDF's, JPG,'s, GIF's, PNG's, etc., as well as do basic editing of these files.
In newer versions of OS X, you can simply attach a scanner to a USB port and the Mac can recognize & work with it without having to install any extra software and/or drivers. Preview will work as your scanner controller, and do a decent job. You can choose to install the more sophisticated scanner software that is bundled with your scanner, but in most cases you probably won't need to. How does your Mac do this? Why, thanks to Quartz!

"Quartz" is not actually software you buy or install- it is part of the OS itself and directly relates to graphics. It makes many graphic processes available system-wide that can be taken advantage of by other software programs. (For instance- Quartz provides system-level basic graphic filtering capabilities when you print. You can have a photograph open in MS Word, and in print settings, the option to convert to sepia tone may be there. Or sharpen image, etc. That is a function of Quartz that MS Word is accessing. It is not built into MS Word).

Scanning the LFBC using Preview on a Mac should be a pretty quick way to get 'er done. Even all these Adobe/Graphic/Typewriter "Experts" should know this.

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:35 am

I see old fist'n'cuffs' anti-semitism is showing again - what would his friend Orly think?

Quote:

Leonard McCauley · Top Commenter

U should be well aware of who owns 100% of all Media in America and most of the World, since 1947...The Zionists, if u didn't know?
· Reply · Tuesday at 9:29pm

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=316749

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:37 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:

I see old fist'n'cuffs' anti-semitism is showing again - what would his friend Orly think?

Quote:

Leonard McCauley · Top Commenter

U should be well aware of who owns 100% of all Media in America and most of the World, since 1947...The Zionists, if u didn't know?
· Reply · Tuesday at 9:29pm

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=316749

Wait a second, isn't WND "media"?

Actually, the question mark should go before "media" when talking about WND.

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:45 am

Many gracias to Obsolete.

So IF I have it right, here's how the PDF came into being:

EITHER somebody took a good photo, cropped it, loaded it on a Mac and saved it as a PDF,

OR somebody used a scanner attached to a Mac and saved the resulting graphic file as a PDF.

I may have that a little fuzzed up. I remember a reference to an actual graphic-format file of the LFBC, but I can't seem to locate it.

Reality Check · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:48 am

I am still waiting for a comment from WND's very own reporter who should have been at the press conference and should have been able to view and hold the certificate. Calling Les Kinsolving...

mimi · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:26 am

Hey... thanks!

obsolete wrote:

Not to threadjack, but some quick info for Foggy and other non-Mac users:

Much is being made of the fact that the PDF scan of Obama's LFBC was done using Mac tools.

"Preview" is the name of the basic graphic application made by Apple that comes free with all Macs since OS X was introduced in 2001. It is quick & simple, and is the default program to open PDF's, JPG,'s, GIF's, PNG's, etc., as well as do basic editing of these files.
In newer versions of OS X, you can simply attach a scanner to a USB port and the Mac can recognize & work with it without having to install any extra software and/or drivers. Preview will work as your scanner controller, and do a decent job. You can choose to install the more sophisticated scanner software that is bundled with your scanner, but in most cases you probably won't need to. How does your Mac do this? Why, thanks to Quartz!

"Quartz" is not actually software you buy or install- it is part of the OS itself and directly relates to graphics. It makes many graphic processes available system-wide that can be taken advantage of by other software programs. (For instance- Quartz provides system-level basic graphic filtering capabilities when you print. You can have a photograph open in MS Word, and in print settings, the option to convert to sepia tone may be there. Or sharpen image, etc. That is a function of Quartz that MS Word is accessing. It is not built into MS Word).

Scanning the LFBC using Preview on a Mac should be a pretty quick way to get 'er done. Even all these Adobe/Graphic/Typewriter "Experts" should know this.

mimi · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:32 am

From Foggy's links to the posts that covered the *'news conference'

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“Are its author and publisher chastened?” the disclaimer read. “Well, no. They double down, and accuse the President of the United States of perpetrating a fraud on the world by having released a forged birth certificate. Not because this claim is in any way based on reality, but to hold their terribly gullible audience captive to their lies. This is despicable, and deserves only ridicule. That’s why we committed satire in the matter of the Corsi book.”

Later, in an interview with The Daily Caller, Warren called Corsi an “execrable piece of shit.”

why yes he is!

And Joey has learned a trick from Orly:

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Farah and Corsi’s attorney, Larry Klayman said the Esquire article, plus Warren’s comments to The Daily Caller, showed actionable malice “for which they will pay dearly.”

[snip]

Farah said the article led to some bookstores returning copies of the book, as well as a flood of calls from news organizations and confused readers.

“The book has not sold nearly as well as it would have,” Farah said.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/30/world ... 0-million/

*If a tree falls in a forest and all that.

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:04 am

On WND's Facebook page they're still asking for the long-form video.

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"Something wrong?" :lol:

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:21 am

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6637

OK, I admit I've slept since then, but before the press conference at which the Pres spoke about the LFBC, weren't copies handed out to the press in and around their offices/workstations outside the briefing room? Didn't Jay Carney have one of the two or three real certified, stamped LFBC's that were apparently hand-carried from Honolulu, and show it to members of the press either in the briefing room before the press conference or in the work area and allow some of them to take photos of it, including the raised/depressed seal?

I'm just your average joe, not a genius like say Hunnybuns or Corsi, but I don't see why they can't recognize the pdf they downloaded off of whitehouse.gov as exactly like what it is. I mean you don't have to be Mensa material to figure out they took one of the dang originals, laid the thing on a copy machine to make a photocopy to scan the copy ( so as to not mangle up one of the originals)? And said scanner was wired up to a Mac with one of them there USB port thingies, or networked wirelessly like you'd expect of our ninja pirate White House staff? Saved as a pdf via Mac, then uploaded onto the whitehouse.gov site for 307,000,000 to gawk at? I guess you have to be a whole lot smarter than me to take a pdf that's stats show exactly what it is and turn it into obot fuckery.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

mimi wrote:

Hey... when I searched "mara" in TFB, I see she was quoted in The Globe tabloid. That must be where Corsi dug her up.

Assuredly. Mara was online, publicly calling the long-form a fake within hours of its release:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... swers.html
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/04 ... is-a-fake/
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/gfo ... st=3310659

As you see, she was already familiar with the Nordyke certificate and she ends her bit by preaching a Vattel-ish definition of natural born citizenship. The woman was clearly a birther before the long-form's release.

In any case, the Globe picked up on this and must have called her for comment. And then WND ran with it.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Thanks, Loren. :-bd

Lola_Getz · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:01 am

Loren wrote:

Assuredly. Mara was online, publicly calling the long-form a fake within hours of its release:

Considering that the last Photoshop book she had anything to do with was Photoshop 6 in 2001, it seems like it's a bit of a reach for WND to go to her as an "expert" (never mind the fact that the PDF wasn't created with Photoshop in the first place). Even with the Photoshop 6 book, she was only one of a number of contributors and, anyway, Photoshop books are about creating digital art, not detecting forgeries. I'd like to know Mara Zebest Nathanson's credentials as a forensic document examiner.

Not holding my breath on that one.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

Corsi and Zebest on Peter Boyles:

http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcast/s ... PETE6A.mp3

Zebest says at 13:45 that the only way layers can be created is if the document is a fraud.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23583

Loren wrote:

Corsi and Zebest on Peter Boyles:

http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcast/s ... PETE6A.mp3

Zebest says at 13:45 that the only way layers can be created is if the document is a fraud.

Another "expert" bites the dust. :lol:

Lola_Getz · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:13 am

realist wrote:

Another "expert" bites the dust. :lol:

I know who I'll definitely avoid the next time I'm looking to buy a new Photoshop book too.

ducktape · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:22 am

Loren wrote:

Corsi and Zebest on Peter Boyles:

http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcast/s ... PETE6A.mp3

Zebest says at 13:45 that the only way layers can be created is if the document is a fraud.

Not only is she a fraud, but she is a stupid one at that.

Apparently, she is a hard-right ideologue, at least from her blog, and another one who knew the answer before the question was asked. I'm not sure how she supports herself these days (having written a couple of "leading technical books" myself, I can tell you that it's nothing like a full-time income), but I guess she's figured she'll have a new career training birthers on Photoshop 6.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

Out-of-Context Theater:

Larry Klayman: "[Hawaii] is not a state that has always been lily-white."

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:27 am

ducktape wrote:

Apparently, she is a hard-right ideologue, at least from her blog,

She has a blog? - Where? I haven't seen that.

raicha · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:30 am

Curious Blue wrote:

raicha wrote:

If the certification is fraudulent, then only examination of the vault copy settles the question.

No, if a certification is fraudulent, all that is needed is to obtain a genuine certification.

In other words, if someone produced a purported document issued by Some Government Agency (SGA) with a certification that is fake, then if and fact such document exists, the solution would be to obtain a copy with non-fake certification.

DOH! Of course.

ducktape · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:35 am

Sorry, misread a blog that was following her for hers. ("The Mad Jewess").

editorkorir · **Posted:** Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:39 am

Reality Check wrote:

Terry Krepel from ConWebWatch attended the press conference and has an article up on it.....As timing would have it Terry will be on RC Radio tonight. :-bd

Corsi's FB page has several threads about Terry. Corsi linked to the article, which only strengthens his [Corsi's] crediblity. in the eyes of the Birthers. #-o

Amazing

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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