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He's not even close to being a Presbyterian minister. His Church is WOW! in Naples, FL -- a church without walls. It is "post-denominational."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Cn61JM4kNR8/SvCPAsm7N7I/AAAAAAAAAuQ/smuyJmiMLAE/s1600-h/church+WOW+Banner.JPG

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They are both active in MENSA, the High I.Q. Society, so their interests and expertise are deep and wide.

That just about sums it up.

BTW, in the article, it appeared that he claims to be The Gifted Child Coordinator for MENSA, not for some local chapter.

But surely he was misquoted.

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The Presbyterian Church of the USA's web site has a minister search; his name doesn't come up. Of course, not knowing the Presbyterian Church, I have no idea if he'd be listed there anyway, but it's one source.

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BTW, in the article, it appeared that he claims to be The Gifted Child Coordinator for MENSA, not for some local chapter.

But surely he was misquoted.


I doubt it - that appears in a lot of his posts, blogs and publicity materials.

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ducktape wrote:

BTW, in the article, it appeared that he claims to be The Gifted Child Coordinator for MENSA, not for some local chapter.

But surely he was misquoted.


I doubt it - that appears in a lot of his posts, blogs and publicity materials.


I'm suspecting Mensa's Gifted Youth Specialist might tell him to get his act together......or come do her work for her, one of the two.

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Gosh darn it, I almost put a disclaimer in there for not meaning to diss any fogbow mensa-ites. But since you're no longer a member, I rest my case! I think it's possible to be too smart for Mensa, thorrie! :hug: :hug: :hug:


ROFL!! Good save there, Kimba :D :hug: :hug: :hug:

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The Presbyterian Church of the USA's web site has a minister search; his name doesn't come up. Of course, not knowing the Presbyterian Church, I have no idea if he'd be listed there anyway, but it's one source.



It amuses me to no end that in the US you can throw up a church sign, call yourself a "Bishop" or "Pastor" or if you are ambitious "Pope" I suppose with absolutely no qualifications or background whatsoever. We had a "Bishop" who used to come and see my previous boss. Whenever he arrived and announced himself I would call the boss and say "Mr. Smith is here to see you" he would immediately correct me "Bishop Smith" I would repeat to the boss "Mr. Smith is here to see you". I ain't calling you Bishop until I see your Doctorate of Divinity moron.

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Just a snippit - Sam also uses the @aa099.org email address for the Theological Center of Naples which he seems to be President of.



Yes, and this site has a picture of him that sorta fits the profile of all his titles and specialties;

http://tcnaples.blogspot.com/

No followers so far, I noticed.

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The Presbyterian Church of the USA's web site has a minister search; his name doesn't come up. Of course, not knowing the Presbyterian Church, I have no idea if he'd be listed there anyway, but it's one source.


We should get Rolf "Dogbite" Jensen to sniff around this.


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It amuses me to no end that in the US you can throw up a church sign, call yourself a "Bishop" or "Pastor" or if you are ambitious "Pope" I suppose with absolutely no qualifications or background whatsoever. We had a "Bishop" who used to come and see my previous boss. Whenever he arrived and announced himself I would call the boss and say "Mr. Smith is here to see you" he would immediately correct me "Bishop Smith" I would repeat to the boss "Mr. Smith is here to see you". I ain't calling you Bishop until I see your Doctorate of Divinity moron.


You mean like James Manning, and his self-granted Th.D. from his own "seminary"???

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Pat, I would give a lot of Taxpayers' money for this to be the response given to Honeybunny's inquiries at your work.

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I would like to thank you for your inquiries regarding the vetting of our faculty and staff at our establishment. While I understand that the student you represent may fear an OMG-type moment, they should not be worried. Often past experience can cloud our judgment and we live our life always anticipating disaster that never seems to come, no matter how inevitable. I can assure your student that such thoughts are never constructive and that our faculty and staff have been properly vetted every year whether it is 2008 or 2012.

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BTW, the Dr. Selwyn Mills (PhD) who provided all the gushing bio detail (including Hunny's Mensa title) for that "Spotlight" article on Sam and Bunny, is also an author. Here's the Hun's comment from a "Where's the Birth Certificate?" book review site:

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NEW BOOK - Dreams of Lucifer and Barack Obama I wrote a brief review for this book: “Selwyn Mills takes on the evil of politicians with all the cutting wit of C. S. Lewis’ “Screwtape Letters.” This is a book of spectacular intellect, and humor that enlightens. Dr. Mills’ book is a much more entertaining read than Machiavelli’s “The Prince” but still very revealing of the soul warping effect of politics.” Sam Sewell Paperback (May 10, 2011) by Selwyn J Mills Ph.D To purchase, go to Amazon Books

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One hand washing the other quite nicely down there in Florida. (And does the Hunster run a vanity publishing house? Sam Sewell Paperback??)

Selwyn teaches a "lifelong learning" course titled "The Mentality of Entitlement" in the area.

And. Plus. Too. Also. Selwyn's psychotherapy practice (yep - he's one too!) overlapped his 40-year career as a decorative Painting Contractor. Really. More at the Amazon link.

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Hektor, you're the best. :lol:

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... our faculty and staff have been properly vetted every year whether it is 2008 or 2012.

yours,

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Pat, I would give a lot of Taxpayers' money for this to be the response given to Honeybunny's inquiries at your work.

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I would like to thank you for your inquiries regarding the vetting of our faculty and staff at our establishment. While I understand that the student you represent may fear an OMG-type moment, they should not be worried. Often past experience can cloud our judgment and we live our life always anticipating disaster that never seems to come, no matter how inevitable. I can assure your student that such thoughts are never constructive and that our faculty and staff have been properly vetted every year whether it is 2008 or 2012.

yours,

(redacted)


We're a private school. Still, that's kinda tempting....... :)

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One hand washing the other quite nicely down there in Florida. (And does the Hunster run a vanity publishing house? Sam Sewell Paperback??)

Selwyn teaches a "lifelong learning" course titled "The Mentality of Entitlement" in the area.

And. Plus. Too. Also. Selwyn's psychotherapy practice (yep - he's one too!) overlapped his 40-year career as a decorative Painting Contractor. Really. More at the Amazon link.

And I can see that one of the 3 glowing reviews is from .... Sam Sewell!

And it's certainly getting the recognition it deserves. Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #507,108 in Books

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The Presbyterian Church of the USA's web site has a minister search; his name doesn't come up. Of course, not knowing the Presbyterian Church, I have no idea if he'd be listed there anyway, but it's one source.


We should get Rolf "Dogbite" Jensen to sniff around this.

There are many flavors of "Presbyterian." The word really means a form of governance at least as much as it means a creed or a theology. My uncle was a member of a "Cumberland Presbyterian Church" denomination (there are three flavors of this). His flavor was a mostly white church that was primarily located in the South and not markedly Calvinist. The Hun could have been a member of one of the many small "Presbyterian" denominations that have little or nothing to do with the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.). He might have just picked the name out of the air. It is the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) that has drawn Dogbite's ire.

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We're a private school. Still, that's kinda tempting....... :)


If a response from your boss is made, I hope it includes something to the effect that since you aren't looking to hire any Mensa Gifted Children's Coordinators, he's not sure how the background-check criteria for a Mensa GIfted Children's Coordinator is supposed to be of any use to him. I mean, sending that was just a whole big pile of stupid right there.

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What a sad little man. Must have nothing going on in his life if he has time for childish, petty, and may I say stupid little vendettas like this.


I hope that when I reach 70 that I spend my time enriching others' lives rather than scamming them...

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And reply #2

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"Just to ease your mind, Dr. Sewell is a Presbyterian minister, hence the email server you saw with "Pastoral" in it. He was inquiring on behalf of a member there in Florida, but I have asked him just to have the member contact you and to refrain from representing himself as me (unless he wants to come here and do some work!).

Regards,
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*Chuckle*


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Hope this isn't too late:

One of my friends believes that a second American revolution is imminent and will be sparked by the economic instability now rocking the continent. Frankly, I doubt it. Insurrections may occur, but I expect the US government to lumber along, dragging the world deeper into poverty and conflict for many years to come.

Upon hearing my friend out, however, my first thought was, "if a revolution erupts, it will resemble the French one of 1789 more closely than the American one of 1776." Then I sat back and tried to figure out why I had arrived at that sudden conclusion, and whether or not it had merit.
[Wendy McElroy via Mises.com]

Individual Americans are getting hammered senseless by "American" corporations and the government they've purchased out from under us.

Voting hasn't seemed to alter behaviours in Washington or the various state houses, it may take action to correct.


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Hope this isn't too late:

One of my friends believes that a second American revolution is imminent and will be sparked by the economic instability now rocking the continent. Frankly, I doubt it. Insurrections may occur, but I expect the US government to lumber along, dragging the world deeper into poverty and conflict for many years to come.

Upon hearing my friend out, however, my first thought was, "if a revolution erupts, it will resemble the French one of 1789 more closely than the American one of 1776." Then I sat back and tried to figure out why I had arrived at that sudden conclusion, and whether or not it had merit.
[Wendy McElroy via Mises.com]

Individual Americans are getting hammered senseless by "American" corporations and the government they've purchased out from under us.

Voting hasn't seemed to alter behaviours in Washington or the various state houses, it may take action to correct.


Im confused. When did the Hun publish this?

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PatGund wrote:
And reply #2

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"Just to ease your mind, Dr. Sewell is a Presbyterian minister, hence the email server you saw with "Pastoral" in it. He was inquiring on behalf of a member there in Florida, but I have asked him just to have the member contact you and to refrain from representing himself as me (unless he wants to come here and do some work!).

Regards,
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*Chuckle*

Hmmmmmmmm..... the Presbyterians are not casual dispensers of divinity degrees. They are known to demand rather high levels of academic achievement, and their ordination exams are quite tough.

I smell a rodent.


Which may explain why he and Bunny had to open their own church .... and why Sammie won't reveal the name of his seminary or undergraduate college.

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John Thomas8 wrote:
Hope this isn't too late:

One of my friends believes that a second American revolution is imminent and will be sparked by the economic instability now rocking the continent. Frankly, I doubt it. Insurrections may occur, but I expect the US government to lumber along, dragging the world deeper into poverty and conflict for many years to come.

Upon hearing my friend out, however, my first thought was, "if a revolution erupts, it will resemble the French one of 1789 more closely than the American one of 1776." Then I sat back and tried to figure out why I had arrived at that sudden conclusion, and whether or not it had merit.
[Wendy McElroy via Mises.com]

Individual Americans are getting hammered senseless by "American" corporations and the government they've purchased out from under us.

Voting hasn't seemed to alter behaviours in Washington or the various state houses, it may take action to correct.


Im confused. When did the Hun publish this?



Ok, I apologize, it was posted in the wrong place. I just saw "revolution" and thought it might apply.


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Sewell has narcissistic personality disorder. The more I read about him, the more this becomes blatantly obvious to me. He is quite a disturbed man. Very disturbed in my opinion (yes, Sammie, I know you think that of me as well. Let's face it; who has the real degree, love?)

On his Amazon review, he signs as:

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Rev. Dr. Samuel O. Sewell is a Professor of Biblical

Scholarship, international columnist and a member of

the Society of Professional Journalists,


You should see how he describes himself on the back of Mills' book! Sam's Amazon review for Mills' book is exactly what he wrote for the review on the back of Mills' book.

Mills wrote a review for the back cover of Sammie's book. Sammie's book doesn't have a single review! :((

Sammie has another website called The Free Research Repository.

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Invisible Hero Exposes the Evil Power Elite
Most of us already know, or at least suspect, that the power elite who are stealing our nation from “We the People” are an organized power hub. We may not know who is linked to whom or how they rule the roost, but we know they are in cahoots with each other.

The research on this blog will connect the dots and make the evil plan of the power elite more visible and easier to oppose. The heroic patriots who spend hours researching all these intricate connections choose to remain anonymous.


That blog is full of batshit crazy! :shock:

From a letter to the NRA:

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I’m at my 11th month of research on this network that surrounds Obama and I am convinced we are dealing with the Illuminati Rothschild. There is already an institution that I’ve found that’s sole purpose is to educate and warn the public of the dangers of the Illuminati Rothschild. I encourage every American that values their freedom to watch this video titled the Matrix of Power.


Interesting; is Sammie claiming to have been a "spook"? From The Apocalypse Press website.

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An old friend from my spooky past, who was a fellow student at the University of Missouri at Kansas City, recently reminded me of his adventures back in the early 1970s. If you did not know that clergy are used for intelligence and undercover missions, it is probably because the double life of clergy/spies is seldom exposed. However history gives us a dramatic example. Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a
German Lutheran pastor, theologian, and spy. He was also involved in the German Resistance movement against Nazism and a founding member of the Confessing Church. His involvement in plans by members of the Abwehr (the German Military Intelligence Office) to assassinate Adolf Hitler resulted in his arrest in April 1943 and his subsequent execution by hanging in April 1945, twenty-three days before the Nazis' surrender.

Historical Background
Believe it or not these decades old events, told below by an Intelligence Officer with the code name The Rev. Big Goon, help explain our
present political and economic crisis.


All 3 parts of the article are here.

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Well, I was remiss and did not save screen-caps. But I had an interesting exchange with the Hun on WND. He started by posting a link to one of his articles, and I responded by asking him (all of these are paraphrased), So Sam, where did you get your divinity degree?

He replied : What's a divinity degree?

I responded : So... were you lying to MENSA when you said you were a Presbyterian Minister?

He responded: I am a Presbyterian minister. But if you mean a Bachelor's, Masters or Doctorate in Divinity, I don't have any such degrees. And why would MENSA care if I had any degrees?

I responded: But Sam... the EPC says that to become a Presbyterian Minister you have to have Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university and a Seminary degree: M.Div. or equivalent including Koine Greek and Hebrew.

He responded by completely deleting the thread.

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Well, I was remiss and did not save screen-caps. But I had an interesting exchange with the Hun on WND. He started by posting a link to one of his articles, and I responded by asking him (all of these are paraphrased), So Sam, where did you get your divinity degree?

He replied : What's a divinity degree?

I responded : So... were you lying to MENSA when you said you were a Presbyterian Minister?

He responded: I am a Presbyterian minister. But if you mean a Bachelor's, Masters or Doctorate in Divinity, I don't have any such degrees. And why would MENSA care if I had any degrees?

I responded: But Sam... the EPC says that to become a Presbyterian Minister you have to have Bachelor's degree from an accredited college or university and a Seminary degree: M.Div. or equivalent including Koine Greek and Hebrew.

He responded by completely deleting the thread.

:-k


http://www.ehow.com/info_8606648_average-salary-presbyterian-minister.html

Presbyterian ministers must obtain a four-year degree and typically spend four years in seminary.


However, I did find at least one Presbyterian church that explained that their minister had only a BA in something and an MA in religion, BUT was in the process of studying for a Ph D in Divinity. I do not think that guy had already obtained a four-year degree and spent four years in seminary. Perhaps he got a temporary license on the strength of his Ph D. It still is compatible to what you were told and what you told the birfer.

In any case, both Calvin and Knox would be turning in their graves at the thought of someone claiming to be ordained in their church without proper education. Let's assure them that Sam is just making stuff up. Like his fellow birfers.

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