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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:15 pm 
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For the purposes of this deposition, a person engages in "sexual relations" when the person knowingly engages in or causes -

(1) contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

(2) contact between any part of the person's body or an object and the genitals or anus of another person; or

(3) contact between the genitals or anus of the person and any part of another person's body. "Contact" means intentional touching, either directly or through clothing."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/po ... 031398.htm


Sounds like Monica was definitely guilty. ;;)

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I never saw this passage before. (I guess I was just looking for the salacious stuff. But I was young and foolish then.)

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JUDGE [SUSAN WEBBER] WRIGHT: Well, I'm prepared to rule, and I will not permit this definition to be understood. Quite frankly, there's several reasons. One is that the Court heretofore has not proceeded using these definitions. We have used, we've made numerous rulings or the Court has made numerous rulings in this case without specific reference to these definitions, and so if you want to know the truth, I don't know them very well. I would find it difficult to make rulings, and Mr. Bennett has made clear that he acknowledges that embarrassing questions will be asked, and if this is in fact an effort on, on the part of Plaintiff's Counsel to avoid using sexual terms and avoid going into great detail about what might or might not have occurred, then there's no need to worry about that, you may go into the detail.


Plaintiff's counsel could have used the proper English word for the conduct -- fellatio -- but for some reason he never did.

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I know this always comes up when Clinton's testimony and speech are discussed, but nevertheless....

To many a Southern boy and man, his statement "I did not have sex with that woman" was the truth.

"Sexual relations," actually. And the definition provided at the deposition was a definition of rape on federal property. Under the doctrine of mitior sensus Clinton did not commit perjury.

Problem is, he also didn't tell the "whole truth." There are times when a "yes" or "no" answer is not sufficient to answer a question truthfully.

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I loathed John Edwards. He was a POS scum bag ambulance chaser that pretty much put OB/GYNs out of business in North Carolina and got rich in the process. While I am all for legitimate lawsuits for genuine medical malpractice he was personally responsible for making it impossible for OB/GYNs to practice in NC and as a result woman are having to travel great distances to get to an OB/Gyn. He also contributed to an inordinate amount of cesarian births because the OB/Gyns that continued to practice were so damn scared of being sued should a vaginal birth go wrong they opted for the cesarian for no good reason other than fear of being sued by Edwards. In his closing arguments in the courtroom he claimed he could channel the spirit of the "dead or injured fetus" and speak to the jury. He was a slimy nasty snake oil salesman that cheated on his cancer stricken wife. As if that wasn't enough he started running for POTUS the minute he was elected Senator, there are caterpillars living on my lettuce that did more for North Carolina than that scum bag did. Other than that he has nice hair!

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The thing we Irish never understood about the Brits is how they never let out how they really felt about someone...

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poutine wrote:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
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I know this always comes up when Clinton's testimony and speech are discussed, but nevertheless....

To many a Southern boy and man, his statement "I did not have sex with that woman" was the truth.

"Sexual relations," actually. And the definition provided at the deposition was a definition of rape on federal property. Under the doctrine of mitior sensus Clinton did not commit perjury.

Problem is, he also didn't tell the "whole truth." There are times when a "yes" or "no" answer is not sufficient to answer a question truthfully.


The lawyers conducting that deposition were also not skilled enough to deal with a witness like Clinton. To this day, video excerpts from that deposition are played at lawyer seminars, mainly as examples of how not to ask a question, how to fail at asking follow-up questions, how to fail at nailing a witness down, etc.


I have often wondered how a poll would turn out if people were asked what they would have done or said if they had been in his position when those questions were asked/ I think it made a lot of people squirm uncomfortably, perhaps even those asking the questions.

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I have often wondered how a poll would turn out if people were asked what they would have done or said if they had been in his position when those questions were asked/ I think it made a lot of people squirm uncomfortably, perhaps even those asking the questions.


The fact that Clintons personality shot up when they "accidently" released the video of his questioning is all the answer you need on that.

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The thing we Irish never understood about the Brits is how they never let out how they really felt about someone...



*snork*

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I am proud to say I was never was on the Edwards train.


I hated his guts from Day 1. The "two Americas" line was all well and good but it did sound awfully socialist and rich-hating. It's bad enough that Republicans tar Democrats with those labels with no justification. With Edwards the slurs would be accurate.


Someone growing up in New Canaan, CT and someone growing up in Camden, NJ sure seem to be growing up in different countries. Hell, different worlds.

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Source: DOJ green-lights Edwards charges


By Lisa Myers Senior investigative correspondent
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Sources close to the investigation tell NBC News that the Justice Department has given the green light for criminal charges to be filed against former U.S. Senator and presidential hopeful John Edwards, for alleged violations of campaign finance laws arising from the cover-up of an affair. One source with knowledge of the case says that while prosecutors are moving toward an indictment, it is still possible that a plea agreement could be reached.

Federal authorities have been investigating whether Edwards illegally spent campaign contributions to hide his affair with one-time campaign videographer Rielle Hunter, and whether more than $1 million provided by wealthy supporters to keep Hunter out of sight amounted to illegal campaign contributions.

More than a dozen witnesses have testified before a federal grand jury in Raleigh, North Carolina, over the past two years.

Sources says an indictment or a plea bargain is imminent, possibly within the next two weeks.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43163300/ns ... _politics/

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Politics News Alert: Lawyers expect former Sen. John Edwards to be indicted Friday
June 3, 2011 8:52:23 AM
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Lawyers for former Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards expect that he will be indicted Friday on federal campaign finance charges after plea agreement talks with the Justice Department broke down, a person familiar with the negotiations said.

A federal grand jury in North Carolina has been examining Edwards's role in funneling money from political donors to a former campaign aide, Rielle Hunter, in a possible attempt to cover up an extramarital affair.


http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/ ... BH9OK/9A/h

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And as expected...

Politics News Alert: Grand jury indicts former presidential candidate John Edwards
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A federal grand jury has indicted two-time presidential candidate John Edwards over massive sums of money spent to keep his mistress in hiding during the peak of his 2008 campaign for the White House.

The case of USA v. Johnny Reid Edwards contains six counts, including conspiracy, four counts of illegal campaign contributions and one count of false statements. The indictment was returned in the Middle District of North Carolina on Friday.


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I'm not sorry to read this news. His behavior was more than appalling, it was apparently illegal. Unlike the RWNJs, I've noted that Progressives tend not to defend their criminals.

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What a complete schmuck. Congrats to anyone who never supported this Olympic-sized douchebag. I feel like a chump now even if he was only ever my second or third favorite in 2004 or 2008. I'm glad this toad has been indicted.

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Politics News Alert: FEC rules that John Edwards presidential campaign must repay $2 million in matching funds
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The Federal Election Commission says former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards’ 2008 presidential campaign should repay the U.S. Treasury $2.3 million.

The commission on Thursday decided to order the repayment. Federal auditors said all but about $200,000 of the total came from federal matching funds the Edwards campaign received.

The campaign got nearly $13 million in matching funds. Edwards dropped out of the race Jan. 30, 2008.

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Federal auditors said the campaign understated its cash and overstated its expenses. Edwards’ attorneys said the Democrat’s campaign doesn’t owe anything.

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A woman has accused Wu of unwanted sexual advances. Or something.


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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Steve Israel (N.Y.) issued statements Sunday night calling for the House ethics committee to look into allegations of sexual misconduct by Rep. David Wu (D-Ore.).

“I call on the Ethics Committee to initiate an investigation into the allegations against Congressman Wu,” Pelosi said in the statement. “With deep disappointment and sadness about this situation, I hope that the Ethics Committee will take up this matter.”

Wu is alleged to have had a sexual encounter with a woman against her will in late 2010, an episode first reported by the Portland Oregonian. The newspaper reported that Wu has acknowledged the encounter but insisted it was consensual.


more.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html

Goddard says Pelosi has told him to step down. soon.

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I think he's had a stroke and has become disabled.

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Goddard says Pelosi has told him to step down. soon.


Jesus. Another Weiner. Although he appears to be a rapist, and has done this shit before.

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WASHINGTON — Democratic Rep. David Wu of Oregon has announced that he is resigning in the wake of allegations that he had a sexual encounter with an 18-year-old woman.

Democratic leaders had called for a House Ethics investigation after the initial reports of the allegation. Wu had said that whatever occurred was consensual.

Wu said Tuesday the well-being of his children should come first, so he will resign after Congress resolves the debate over the debt ceiling.

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WASHINGTON — Democratic Rep. David Wu of Oregon has announced that he is resigning in the wake of allegations that he had a sexual encounter with an 18-year-old woman.

Democratic leaders had called for a House Ethics investigation after the initial reports of the allegation. Wu had said that whatever occurred was consensual.

Wu said Tuesday the well-being of his children should come first, so he will resign after Congress resolves the debate over the debt ceiling.


Wow you are fast! I was just coming to post that.

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Wu through.

Now I have to research how Oregon replaces congresscritters. We have a Dem Gov, so an appointment won't change the balance.


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Replacements for former congressmen are elected in a special election, regardless of state.

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Replacements for former congressmen are elected in a special election, regardless of state.


Check. Oregon has no provision for any interim replacements. Governor Kitzhaber is working on the date.


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Joseph Robidoux III wrote:
Replacements for former congressmen are elected in a special election, regardless of state.


Check. Oregon has no provision for any interim replacements. Governor Kitzhaber is working on the date.


I should have elaborated my statement.

The Constitution requires an election to fill a vacancy in both the House and the Senate. However a state legislature is allowed (17th Amendment) to give its governor the power to make a temporary replacement for a Senator until that election occurs.
http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitut ... ndmentxvii

There is no similar authority given to a governor regarding a House vacancy.

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Feds: Treasurer Used Campaign Funds For Cosmetics, Ice Cream, Mother's Nursing Home Bill
Ryan J. Reilly | September 6, 2011, 4:00PM

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Prominent Democratic campaign treasurer Kinde Durkee, arrested in California on mail fraud charges over the weekend, routinely moved substantial sums of money out of the accounts of her clients and into the coffers of her firm, federal authorities alleged in a newly released criminal complaint on Tuesday.

An affidavit from an FBI agent alleges that Durkee, who has served as treasurer on hundreds of political campaigns, took money from campaign funds that she controlled and used the money to pay her own personal and business expenses. She also allegedly used cash from some campaigns to cover shortfalls in the accounts of other campaigns.

Specifically, Durkee allegedly took nearly $700,000 out of the account of California Assemblyman Joe Solorio. Some of that cash ended up in the campaign account for Rep. Loretta Sanchez, but there isn't any suggestion that the California Democrat knew what was taking place.

Durkee, head of the California firm Durkee & Associates, had signature authority for more than 400 bank accounts. She allegedly used money from various political campaigns to pay her mortgage, American Express bills for everything from Ulta cosmetics to Baskin Robbins purchases, and even the bill for her mother's care at an assisted living facility.


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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c ... i.php#more

This is just so stupid. How could she possibly think she could get away with this.

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