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This evening on my drive home from work the local RWNJ radio station was doing a piece on "The Fair Tax" Now let it be known I am a supporter of "The Fair Tax" I think it is a great idea and would solve all our ills (full disclosure other than food I rarely buy anything new so I would be quids in). The guy being interviewed on the phone said that he had been fighting the IRS for 20 years, that he had discovered the fact that filing and paying taxes was purely voluntary and THAT HE HAD NOT FILED TAXES SINCE 1987. Now, if that is actually true how the hell does he get away with it, cause I know that one year (about 10 years ago) when I didn't file my taxes the IRS were all over me like white on rice. How the hell does someone get away with not filing their taxes since 1987?

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Britty - Tax protestors always claim they don't pay the feds. And it's never true unless they don't make any money. (A couple of them, who were teaching tax resistance, were criminally prosecuted for unlawfully exhorting others to avoid paying taxes, or for selling worthless investments for fraudulent deductions. When asked why these criminals weren't also prosecuted for evading their taxers, the DoJ reported that they had, in fact, filed their returns and paid. I believe that was at the sentencing hearings. And I believe that served to "enhance" -- increase -- their sentences.)

"Quids in," eh? Some people here won't know what that means since they don't speak English. (They won't even know what a quid is. Sod all.)

If the "fair tax" you refer to is a consumption tax, it is very regressive. And since the ultra wealthy don't consume proportionately to their excessive income, it will allow the rich to become even richer. So, I believe we should have both an income tax and a VAT.

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Strunk in esse must be so pleased with Benjamin Fulford's reports:
Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the self-described Black Pope and a third party who shall remain anonymous because he was speaking under an oath of silence.


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The math behind the get-rich-quick scheme of investing in Iraqi Dinars is impeccable. Iraq is said to have printed some 30 trillion new Dinars (the ones without Saddam but with an annoying extra three zeroes, soon to be removed). 80% of those Dinars is still in Iraq, leaving some 6 trillion Dinar scattered around the world, some of them in the hands of private investors.

China and the U.S. have each agreed to purchase Iraqi oil at a set price of $32.00 per barrel. So assume that the revaluation of the Dinar will give it the value of $4.00, close to what it had in Saddam's time. That means that some $24 trillion of Dinars outside Iraq must be bought back by Iraq. At the agreed rate per barrel, this simply means that Iraq has to sell only 750 billion barrels of oil. Since each barrel costs less than $2 to produce, Iraq is set to make a killing. "Iraq can pay off ALL of the Dinar still out for
$1,500,000,000 while coming out of sanctions, becoming a powerful country and a part of the UN and WTO and go forward." If the revaluation is higher than $4, which is confidently expected, the cost to Iraq may be far smaller.

So, millionaires will be created, the Prosperity Packs will be funded, and Operation Compassion can go into effect. Just a little more patience will result in huge profits.

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An explanation for a part of the hogwash surrounding the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar and the delivery of Prosperity Packs: "John MacHaffie" has announced that this is the last month in which donations to his Web site will be rewarded by bumping the donor into Needs Group 1 from the lower levels 2, 3, and 4. Needs Group 1 will receive their fortunes right after the Dire Straits group. The revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar is providing the funding for the Prosperity Packs. It's not too late to file a Needy Person Online Application. And there is much to look forward to even if one is not a Needy Person (be careful not to confuse your Level with your membership in a Needs group):
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All mortgage loans will be zeroed out after announcements; all foreclosures for the last 10 years will be returned or reimbursed to the owners; judges have been and are being trained in constitutional law - no more attorneys; all real estate will be held in allodial title; new technology will be revealed; and healing for all disease revealed and made available; peace will be declared and all our troops will be returned home. Give thanks for your blessings!

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$1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000.

That's 1 with 40 zeros behind it. This is enough money to buy a gold cube the size of the orbit of Saturn. So astronomical most people will not believe it!

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RuSA/RAP is still having its "prayer calls" and is still making promises that the de jure governments of all 50 states have been "reinhabited." It has been a while since Tim Turner announced that he had the support of 79 foreign countries, and he has not recently laid claim to possessing enough funding to buy a cube of gold the size of the orbit of Saturn. The claim to have military support seems to have transformed into a claim to have militia support, with the military now being seen as traitors. My impression is that there are a few True Believers, probably in every state, and a number of scam artists are in the mix.

There are three great hopes for funding RuSA, although a "transfer of wealth to the people" is more what cRAPsters want. The V.K. Durham Trust is based upon a single Peruvian gold certificate. At one time it was said to be the foundation for support of 80% of the entire value of the Euro. Back in 2004, before the run-up in the price of gold, it was claimed to be worth $206,858,581,465,280,000,000. I think that is more than the entire economic product of the planet for a number of years. G. H. W. Bush is the mastermind who has kept the V. K. Durham Trust from destroying the "Rothschild banks," eliminating all debts, and making everyone rich.

A second great hope is the St. Germain World Trust, which appears to have been set up by an immortal alien who might also be Jesus Christ. This is the "forty zeros" trust, or $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. It has obligations to pay off royalty, banks, and debts, after which the remainder will be distributed to a joyous population.

These somehow all get involved in sub-conspiracies. One is a CIA plot involving Leo Wanta to destabilize the Soviet economy that had the side benefit of leaving $27,500,000,000,000 on the table for distribution to the people. There was also a 2000 arrest in Italy of a pair of "Japanese businessmen" who had $134,000,000,000 in U.S. bonds in their possession. There is also a Florida real estate developer who claims to have had a huge sum stolen from him by Customs; a prominent Black member of Congress complained to Pres. Obama about this. I am not sure of the member of Congress's name or state. Lastly, as a side show, there is the CMKM Diamonds penny stock scandal, in which some "investors" are convinced that the SEC is sitting upon a $3,870,000,000,000 payout to shareholders. After all, the SEC did not prohibit them from buying this unlisted stock.

The third great hope is the revaluation of the new (non-Saddam) Iraqi Dinar. It seems certain that the Central Bank will redenominate the Dinar by lopping off three zeroes; this "new new" Iraqi Dinar does not yet circulate. That does not satisfy the speculators in the Dinar or the scam artists who prey on them. Last week's rumor was that the Dinar had been revaluated, so that "a man" walked into "a bank in Iraq" and deposited 5,000,000 new Iraqi Dinars, requesting U.S. dollars. The bank did not have enough U.S. dollars, so they gave him a deposit slip for $21,000,000. That is an exchange rate of $4.20 for a currency that currently is pegged by the IMF at about 1,077 Dinars per U.S. dollar. Some rumors have soared into the $12 range, all based upon the idea that Iraq sits on the world's largest supply of petroleum -- more than four times the estimated world reserve.

RAP Nesara News announced "Dinar News: The Iraq RV has been announced by M in Iraq." "M" may refer to Maliki, the Prime Minister. Strangely, this news has not appeared on any FOREX or news outlets. However, the next article says it must be true because the Bible prophesied it. Modern Day Iraqi Dinar RV Biblical Prophecy.
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This info is very well written and thought out. It links the Dinar RV to the largest transfer of wealth to the common people in the history of the world. The RV is the banker method to enslave the world. Make war, destroy the country, rebuild and RV the currency back to it's previous levels. Make a pile of money on the Revaluation and install your puppet dictators who just became massively wealthy. Leave the country and let it run on auto-pilot. Repeat process with the next country.

Having been studying the monetary system for 10 years, the insight about Iraq hit me like a ton of bricks about a month ago. Things are a bit more complex than they seem in the world, it is not quite as black and white as a David Icke conspiracy theory. There are good people in the world who are among the elite and they operate on principle and have a long term plan that is in opposition to the NWO.

They are making their move now. The dinar in my mind is the mechanism to take back the Republics of the World from the Fiat currency people.
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When the news of the dinar came to me I began to pray concerning the opportunity. It was September 2010 when the the Lord clearly showed us to go forward. We had waited for that confirmation for several years. Afterwards, the Lord has spoken four things to me. 1) There will be the test of delay. 2) This dinar will reveal what is truly in your soul 3) There will be a short window of time in which to act after the revalue 4) If you seek to hold onto the windfall you will loose it.

Probably coincidentally, the author of the above said that the revelation came to him in Sweetwater, TN. Most of those selling Dinars or what purport to be Dinars do so from the stance of Christian helping Christian.

The Prosperity Packs, the "Needs Program," NESARA itself, and perhaps RuSA are all looking to the revaluation of the new Iraqi Dinar as their funding and salvation.

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RuSA/RAP is still having its "prayer calls" and is still making promises that the de jure governments of all 50 states have been "reinhabited." It has been a while since Tim Turner announced that he had the support of 79 foreign countries, and he has not recently laid claim to possessing enough funding to buy a cube of gold the size of the orbit of Saturn. The claim to have military support seems to have transformed into a claim to have militia support, with the military now being seen as traitors. My impression is that there are a few True Believers, probably in every state, and a number of scam artists are in the mix.


Who takes this completely insane crap seriously? It doesn't even make sense. It is so head-scratchingly WTF that I think even a birfer would say "those guys are nuts!"

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A Legal Lohengrin wrote:
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RuSA/RAP is still having its "prayer calls" and is still making promises that the de jure governments of all 50 states have been "reinhabited." It has been a while since Tim Turner announced that he had the support of 79 foreign countries, and he has not recently laid claim to possessing enough funding to buy a cube of gold the size of the orbit of Saturn. The claim to have military support seems to have transformed into a claim to have militia support, with the military now being seen as traitors. My impression is that there are a few True Believers, probably in every state, and a number of scam artists are in the mix.


Who takes this completely insane crap seriously? It doesn't even make sense. It is so head-scratchingly WTF that I think even a birfer would say "those guys are nuts!"

A lot of the Iraqi Dinars and CMKX Diamonds "investors" are, I think, people who have very little hope of financial security, much less prosperity. Some of them report having invested their "life savings" in one of these things. They may have been bilked into this by salesmen pretending to be Christian preachers; Tim Turner wears that guise fairly often. I'm afraid that far too many of the Dinars investors are returning veterans and am pretty sure that scamsters find them in Iraq. The NESARA "plan" has been around for decades and even has an "Institute" attached; it would basically destroy the Federal Reserve Bank and eliminate all consumer debt. Many believe that NESARA was scheduled to be announced at 10:00AM on September 11, 2001, so the Kabal had to do a rush job of diversion. There is a subgroup of excommunicated Mormons who are much invested in these promises of future wealth. Some of the leadership of RuSA/RAP may come from that group; its big organizational meeting was held in Utah.

Others are like the fools we saw at the Kontinental Konvention in Illinois in 2009. Some are Sovereign Citizens and/or militia members (e.g., Schaeffer Cox). Others have been tax protesters for many years. Still others want a return to the America before the Civil War, although most say slavery would be outlawed because it is economically impractical. A few want a return to the Articles of Confederation (which RuSA resembles), arguing that the Constitution was never properly ratified. (Connecticut and Massachusetts threatened to invade Rhode Island after the Constitution was voted down in a referendum there). Quite a few are extreme conservatives or fascists for whom RuSA would be a stepping stone. There are many people earning incomes off these kinds of fools, often through tax seminars or instruction on how to deny the jurisdiction of the Admiralty Courts (fringed flags) that we think of as the Federal Court System.

Almost all of them are seditionists, but their propensity to violence varies. Many believe there to be "White Knights" at work in the Pentagon who will rise up against the de facto government when the time is right. Some of those believe many or all of the White Knights were killed in a missile attack on the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

There is material here for fiction and non-fiction. Orson Scott Cards's 2006 Empire is one of the better novels about a second Civil War.

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Those in South Florida might want to join the Meetup of the Republic for the united States in South Florida at 3:30 PM in Fort Lauderdale at the Federal Courthouse. Please wear a White Hat and bring a camera. The Meetup will be in protest of Tax Day. Barbecue to follow at Neal's Gun Shop. It's free.

Are there White Hats that fit Obot heads?


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There is plenty of sedition in cRAPster land, as well as fraud on the Iraqi Dinar revaluation and the CMKX Diamonds penny stock swindle. Most of LaRouche's hatreds and Ron Paul's hatreds are rolled into the mix. These people are dangerous ideologically and sometimes violently.

Then there is the branch that believes that benevolent aliens will come to save us (or just them), while also believing that malevolent aliens might win instead. Many of these people are strongly anti-Christian, often referring to Christianity as a blood cult.

Although the following piece appeared on FourWinds10 for Memorial Day, I found it so repugnant that I held off posting it. The author is the apparent spiritual leader of FourWinds10, Patrick Bellringer, with a religion based in texts channeled from aliens to humans.

"PEOPLE OF THE LIE: MEMORIAL DAY, A DAY TO REMEMBER !(Updated May 31, 2011)"
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As we re-examine these past wars, we find that little, if any, good has come from them to benefit the common good. We send our sons and daughters to be trained and mind-controlled to become killers of people and destroyers of property of our supposed enemies. The Truth is modern warfare is done to control wealth, land and peoples and not to protect or bring freedom and justice to anyone.
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So, what is the point of celebrating Memorial Day? Do we honor the trained killers, who have killed “foreigners” and destroyed their homes and lands, who were absolutely of no threat of harm to us? Do we honor those, who have deliberately killed innocent men, women and children for sport, and died in their own foolishness? Do we honor these, who have “given all” in support of the “Emperor” and his War Machine?

To be patriotic must we bow to the “Commander” of this evil plan to control the world’s people and their resources? Does patriotism mean support of the warriors, who destroy nations, or standing against such evil? On this Memorial Day what do we celebrate? What do we honor? On this “Day to Remember” can we remember the cost and death and destruction and futility of past wars? Can we remember to (sic) pain, the suffering and the disease? War is supposed to bring goodness. War is created by liars. We are People of the Lie!

Memorial Day is “a day to remember”. Let us remember the mistakes, the foolish choices, the greed and the hatred of our presidents, our leaders, our armies and our people against other nations. Let us remember how we have broken God’s Laws for “right living” and have found no peace. As People of the Lie, let us awaken and learn that war is futile. Only through understanding and compassion and kind deeds can Peace come to our world. We are all one, and people of others nations also desire peace. This day, let us remember and then act to create peace within our own space.

There are notions in this passage with which I agree to at least some extent. I want the U.S. out of the role of being the world's policeman. I also think that "modern warfare" often or usually has less than praiseworthy rationales, such as the War on Iraq. Some of our wars, such as Vietnam, were unjustified and cruel.

However, "Bellringer's" sweeping condemnation not only of all wars but also of the individual men and women who fought them is repugnant to me. Some of those people died protecting me (and Bellringer) from the Nazis. Others fought to free the slaves. Still others fought for our independence from Great Britain. Others fight today in Afghanistan and Iraq not as soulless killers but as seekers of peace and, yes, "freedom and justice." They were not and will never be "the people of the lie." If there were liars, they were the men who led them into war, not the men and women who fought, suffered, and too often died.

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FATHER GOD, as we now put on the full armor of GOD and take our heavenly seated position we begin to decree and declare the Word of GOD and the finished works of the cross of Jesus Christ… We choose today to put the enemy of GOD and man in remembrance of God's promises and God’s word that IT IS WRITTEN in Math 11:12 “The kingdom suffers violence, but the violent take it by force”.

IN JESUS NAME, by the authority and power Jesus gave us as joint heirs, We decree and declare our rightful inheritance to come forth now and we call forth the Iraqi Dinar to be reinstated and manifest as an internationally recognized revalued currency so that we can begin to establish the works of the Kingdom of God here and now.

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FATHER GOD, as we now put on the full armor of GOD and take our heavenly seated position we begin to decree and declare the Word of GOD and the finished works of the cross of Jesus Christ… We choose today to put the enemy of GOD and man in remembrance of God's promises and God’s word that IT IS WRITTEN in Math 11:12 “The kingdom suffers violence, but the violent take it by force”.

IN JESUS NAME, by the authority and power Jesus gave us as joint heirs, We decree and declare our rightful inheritance to come forth now and we call forth the Iraqi Dinar to be reinstated and manifest as an internationally recognized revalued currency so that we can begin to establish the works of the Kingdom of God here and now.

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What this "prayer" emphasizes is how deeply the fervent hope for wealth from revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar has penetrated into some churches. As I've reported, there are pastors who urge their flocks to spend maybe $5,000, which at the current IMF-recognized rate (1,077 Iraqi Dinar = $1.00) would buy more than 5 million new Iraqi Dinar (not Saddam Dinar). It is clear that some people have spent far more than that and now own billions of Dinars (or what they think are Dinars). Many of them do not have physical possession of the currency. Some have them "on deposit" with the traders, and some have them on deposit in Iraqi banks. Their Dinars may not exist.

Then the expectation for many months/years has been that, because of the vast oil wealth of Iraq, the Dinar would be revaluated to some much better number. A popular number in recent days has been $4.21. So that 5 million Iraqi Dinar would be worth around $21 million, a large ROI. A few pushers have been talking of a value greater than $12.

The various "programs" that promise great wealth for all of humanity are built upon this kind of fantasy. This is how the RAP/NESARA "Needs" program is to be funded, from Dinars. Tim Turner has been looking at various treasure chests to fund his RuSA, also including a Peruvian gold certificate and a trust set up by "St. Germaine."

It may turn out that the Iraqi Dinar scam is one of the largest scams in history and that it has taken the life savings of far too many people, particularly including veterans who buy Dinars in Iraq. CMKX Diamonds may give it a run for its money.

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Gawd has answered the Prayer (above) according to RAP/NESARA News
Dinar - UPDATE - GOD IS CONFIRMING THIS BLESSING. Gawd spoke to three different preachers. Example:
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http://www.gloryofzion.org/docs/5-20-11 ... Update.pdf

"The Lord also showed me how financial systems would realign and nations would have different allegiances than we have known in the past. This begins now. Like the frog in the kettle, you will see gradual changes starting June 5."

Gawd seems to have answered the Prayer before it was prayed, but hey, what did you expect?

Then from "Mary Clark" of Marianna, FL comes even more confirmation:
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The Eleventh Hour – Your Winsome Heart

June 4, 2011

I look on your winsome heart with much desire to move you out of the mundane and into your destiny of delight.
Follow Me. Trust in your God, your Savior, to deliver you from the snare of the evil one.
Don’t let him have his way in your life.
Don’t let his words of doom trouble you.

I am your God and I delight in moving you forward,
I delight in looking on that heart, that winsome heart, that I prize so highly,
and seeing you prosper, prosper in untold ways,
as My divine majesty envelops you, leading you into that place of delight and joy!!!

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We need to have our intrepid investment advisor sell some gets and puts to the various factions involved with the Dinar Investment Exchange. :lol:

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A twist on the Iraqi Dinar scam:
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My 76-year-old mother has sent thousands of dollars to some group claiming she will make millions when they sell off Iraqi dinar.

This part of the story is sad enough. What is scary is that she sent them my siblings’ and my Social Security numbers thinking that she was leaving us a huge legacy.

Although her heart was in the right place, what does this mean for us and what can we do about it? Help!

In the meantime, "investors" are still being promised huge returns:
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Bottom line is this: The events in Iraq are part of a long standing plan. Now, over 2 million Americans hold an average of 1 million dinar each. Every government in the world owns large amounts of dinar with the expectation of leveraging their countries into a lower state of debt. (Have you wondered why the papers have reported numerous “forgiveness of debt” deals being made at national levels lately?)
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Word has spread ’round the globe, partly due to the diligent efforts of the dinar forums, which have complied vast amounts of research, data and first hand intel, in an effort to determine, and plan for, the two most important pieces of information associated to this grand event – “the rate” and “the date”.
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The revaluation of the Iraqi dinar is the beginning of the greatest wealth transfer in the history of modern man. The economic structures of the world are currently undergoing their most profound change in economic history. I anticipate that we will see the biggest economic boom the world has ever known taking shape over the next 50 years. We are all part of this history now being made!

From activity on the Web, it seems entirely credible that two million Americans have "invested" in the Iraqi Dinar. After all, one can own what purport to be one million new Iraqi Dinars for around $930 plus fees. At the $4.21 revaluation rate now being assumed as the "bottom," that "investment" would be worth $4.21 million, indeed a huge legacy to leave one's children even if the mother had spent only one thousand dollars.

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Considering that the Dinar has no liquidity, is likely to be de-monetized, and are being sold as collectibles to avoid the sellers having to be registered as investment advisors, I think the chances of these "investors" getting even a penny back is highly unlikely. Real currencies can be traded on futures exchanges. The dinar cannot.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:45 pm 
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Considering that the Dinar has no liquidity, is likely to be de-monetized, and are being sold as collectibles to avoid the sellers having to be registered as investment advisors, I think the chances of these "investors" getting even a pennt back is highy unlikely. Real currencies can be traded on futures exchanges. The dinar cannot.

Even if it became possible to exchange the Iraqi Dinar on futures exchanges, the rate would be very close to what the IMF determined several months ago: 1,077 ID per $1.00. That is very close to the price at which most sellers (who are not registered in the sense you cite*) actually sell dinars. Some of those dinars may be counterfeit. Others are being held at the seller's business rather than by the "investor," so they may not really exist or may disappear. Some of the sellers are located in Iraq (I think these prey upon our military). The sellers make their profits off fees that run about $40 per $1,000 "investment," assuming that they are actually delivering a real currency to their buyers.

This seems to me to be a scam that the SEC or Treasury should have shut down long ago. However, it may be that the sellers just skirt the edges of legality. None directly promises a revaluation at something like $4.21. I am interested in this because from testimony on the Web, people have invested their life savings in this speculation, and many veterans are deeply invested in dinars.

* Here is the statement from one site:
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TCV – Registered with the US Treasury

The Currency Vault understands how important it is for you (our customers) to feel safe when working with us. To verify our registration with the US Treasury, click the links below that read the US Treasury’s acceptance letter of The Currency Vault as a US Treasury registered and verified Money Services Business.

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TCV – Registered with the US Treasury

The Currency Vault understands how important it is for you (our customers) to feel safe when working with us. To verify our registration with the US Treasury, click the links below that read the US Treasury’s acceptance letter of The Currency Vault as a US Treasury registered and verified Money Services Business


A group registering as a MSB is not registered to sell an investment.

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the term "money services business" does not include:

A bank, as that term is defined in 31 CFR 103.11(c), or
A person registered with, and regulated or examined by, the Securities and Exchange Commission or the Commodity Futures Trading Commission


They have merely paid a fee ( $43.25 in Florida) to be a money transmitter.

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RAPsters periodically rediscover a 1968 decision by a jury in the courtroom of a Justice of the Peace in Scotts County, Minnesota. Today's rediscovery is captioned Are You Aware of this 1968 Ruling?. This is the "Credit River Decision" or First National Bank of Montgomery vs Jerome Daly:
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"This amounts to an emancipation of this nation from personal, national and State debt purportedly owed to this banking system. Every True American owes it to himself/herself, to his or her country, and to the people of the world for that matter, to study this decision very carefully and to understand it, for upon it hangs the question of freedom or slavery."

Illuminati Cash "Slush Fund" Estimated At 65 Trillion Dollars; Illegal Federal Reserve At Heart Of Problem As Minnesota Judge Allegedly Poisoned In 1969 After Ruling Against Corrupt Banksters
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This decision, which is still good law, has the effect of declaring all private mortgages on real and personal property, and all U.S. and State bonds held by the Federal Reserve, National and State Banks to void.

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"Both Jerome Daly and Justice Martin V. Mahoney are truly the greatest men that I have ever had the pleasure to meet. The Credit River Decision was and still is the most important legal decision ever decided by a Jury."

Even the rawest newcomer to TFB can spot why this decision had no meaning. Incidentally,
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The defendant, Jerome Daly, was a longtime tax protester and attorney who was later disbarred by a decision of the Minnesota Supreme Court.

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Juries don't make "legal decisions." They find facts.

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