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JUST IN: Judge McAfee sets an evidentiary hearing on Mike Roman's motion to disqualify Fulton County DA Fani Willis based on alleged "improper" relationship with special prosecutor Nathan Wade.

Hearing set for 9:30 a.m. on Feb. 15.

The state's response is due by Feb. 2.

Notably, the evidentiary hearing will be held after a scheduled Jan. 31 hearing in Cobb County over the unsealing of documents related to Wade’s divorce.

Roman’s attorney stated in a filing that the divorce documents contain evidence of Wade’s alleged relationship w/ Willis.
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Convenient link to the motion to disqualify: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... ualify.pdf
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The drama continues with Willis' emergency motion by non-party deponent for protective order. She's trying to quash a subpoena.
On further information and belief, Defendant Joycelyn Wade has conspired with interested parties in the criminal Election Interference Case to use the civil discovery process to annoy, embarrass, and oppress District Attorney Willis.
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That's a must read, imo.

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p0rtia wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:20 pm That's a must read, imo.

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This dramatic like most videos from MTN tend to be.
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:yeahthat:

I watch a lot of Meidas Touch stuff. In their current form, they've introduced a ton of Ben M's clip-art shows. The formula is "Ben says TFG is going to say something stupid; Clip of TFG saying something stupid; Ben pointing out stupidity of what TFG said. Repeat." I realize it's filler, and I'm sure there are many out there who like this, though it's not my cup of tea.

What I really enjoy are the Legal AF shows and hot takes, where Ben M, Popak, and Karen F-A actually talk about and sometimes discuss the ins and outs of the legal cases. They're not Law Fare wonderful, but they're often might good (now that Popak has learned to share).

I've heard some quips about Ben M's work here; I think he's fine. I just don't like the constant clips. Obviously they've decided that they want to produce this type of content, and it's no skin off my nose.

I also like a lot of their 2nd tier contributors: Anthony Davis is always good. Jessica Denson is often surprisingly good. Gabe Sanchez used to be good but not lately (all clips; see above). Their website is also tacky as hell--look and feel of the Enquirer, although the articles are often okay--and they have links to source materials.

Anyway, been meaning to say that. /off topic
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I listen to MT sometimes, if it looks interesting. Even then I tend to skip to the meat and then stop watching. I listen to Legal AF all of the times though.

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MT is currently streaming the Fulton County Court Hearing
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I started listening on yt, but hoo boy it's dry. Here 's a live tweeter.

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You know, He’s right. “Dr.” has a nice ring…
Dr. Eastman, you are hereby sentenced to…
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I think it is petty to get hung up on titles. That said, I don't have a PhD, maybe if I did, I would feel differently. :shrug:

Also, isn't this the crew that cried murder because Jill Biden wanted to be addressed as doctor, when she was not a medical doctor? Eastman's PhD is in Government. FWIW.
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All of Judge McAfee's hearings are on his YouTube channel. Other states should take a clue from Georgia.

Of course, the Gateway House of Boys has been working with the ex so they have the "evidence" already. So what if he took Willis on trips? Hard to imagine they can prove the charges were directly paid for by Georgia; he must have other income and assets. They are so panicked because they will lose they'll try anything. Here's their side of the story, which I'm sure is full of falsehoods and imaginary inferences. Judge McAfee's waiting to have a hearing until mid-Feb is a CLUE, MAGA.

Who is paying Jocelyn and how much?

BREAKING: Nathan Wade’s Estranged Wife Jocelyn Wade UNLEASHES on Fani Willis in Court Filing – AND PRODUCES THE RECEIPTS – BANK STATEMENTS INCLUDED
By Cristina Laila Jan. 19, 2024 4:00 pm

Hell hath no fury on a woman scorned! Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is in hot water with her paramour Nathan Wade’s estranged wife, Jocelyn Wade. The Georgia RICO case against Trump might go off the rails because of Fani Willis’ ‘improper’ relationship with and *financially benefitted* from a top Trump prosecutor she hired.

As previously reported, Fani Willis had an ‘improper’ romantic relationship with Nathan Wade, a top Trump prosecutor in her office. According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Fani Willis “financially benefited” from a romantic relationship with Nathan Wade, a top prosecutor she hired to go after President Trump. Nathan Wade was brought in as a special prosecutor by Fani Willis in November 2021.

In August Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis hit President Trump and 18 others with RICO and conspiracy charges for daring to challenge the 2020 election. The motion was filed in the Superior Court of Fulton County on behalf of defendant Michael Roman, a former Trump campaign official who was hit with counts 1, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19 in Fani Willis’ RICO case. The motion seeks to have the charges against Michael Roman dismissed and for Fani Willis, Nathan Wade and everyone in the DA’s office to be disqualified from the RICO case against Trump.

The filing claims Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor hired to go after Trump, paid for luxury vacations he took with Fani Willis to Napa Valley and a cruise in the Caribbean – and used money from Fulton County to pay for their out-of-town escapades. “County records show that Wade, who has played a prominent role in the election interference case, has been paid nearly $654,000 in legal fees since January 2022. The DA authorizes his compensation.” the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-f ... ORAK2BKMQ/

Last week it was reported https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/0 ... y-divorce/ Fani Willis had been subpoenaed to testify in the divorce proceedings of Nathan Wade, the special prosecutor she appointed to go after former President Donald Trump and his associates. According to a court filing obtained by The Wall Street Journal, https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/fani-wi ... e-c8e3fda5 Willis was served a subpoena at her Atlanta office for her testimony in the divorce case of Nathan Wade and his wife, Joycelyn Wade. An attorney for Fani Willis immediately filed a motion to quash the subpoena https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/0 ... s-ex-wife/ and accused Jocelyn Wade of “interfering” with her RICO case against Trump.

Now this… On Friday, Jocelyn Wade’s legal counsel filed a response to Fani Willis’ request for a protective order – and Jocelyn Wade produced the receipts! Jocelyn Wade unleashed on Fani Willis.

“The arguments asserted by Ms. Wills are disingenuous, specious, and her claimed basis for same fails as a matter of law. Upon information and belief, Ms. Wills has information and knowledge directly relevant to alleged conduct of the Plaintiff that would be considered by the Court asto equitable division of the marital estate, dissipation of marital assets, and spousal support.” Jocelyn Wade’s attorneys stated in a court filing reviewed by this reporter https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... tive-order.

“Furthermore, Ms. Wilis’s implied threat to pursue charges against Defendant and her counsel, based on inconvenient facts from her personal life that are directly relevant to the ongoing divorce proceedings in the above-styled action, is an affront to the integrity of her office,” Jocelyn Wade’s attorneys wrote. “If non-party, Ms. Willis, seeks protection, it appears that the one she needs protection from is herself,” the filing read.

Below are screenshots of Nathan Wade’s Capital One credit card statements provided by Jocelyn Wade in the court filing https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... tive-order reviewed by The Gateway Pundit.

Nathan Wade spent money on Fani Willis by buying her flowers, and paying for hotels, air travel, a cruise, and Ubers. The bank statements prove Nathan Wade bought Fani Willis flights to Miami and San Francisco. Exhibit A reveals Nathan Wade’s expenses on hotel, air travel, flowers for Fani Willis; April to May 2023 flights, Ubers and car rentals; December 2022 to January 2023. Ubers, hotel, and $3,172.20 on a cruise; October 2022 to November 2022 American Airlines flight purchased in Fani Willis’ name


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I confess I don't know a lot of the details. Are they suggesting how dare Ms Willis have a social life and a (gasp) relationship with someone she's not married to? I don't think they gave a damn when trump was screwing porn stars and playboy bunnies while Melanie was pregnant or nursing a newborn.
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I think the accusation here is that she was boffing him while steering him boatloads of sweet taxpayer cash. Which would be...messy.

I fail to see what difference it makes to the case though. It doesn't make his investigations or her lawsuit magically invalid.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:29 pmI fail to see what difference it makes to the case though. It doesn't make his investigations or her lawsuit magically invalid.
The defendants are free to make whatever motions they desire, but I don't see any being successful.

There's a non-frivolous claim that either or both acted improperly because there's public money at play. And that could lead to various punishments. And of course it is a political matter.

But a legal matter in the prosecution? No.

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raison de Arizona wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:58 pm I think it is petty to get hung up on titles.
The dude's twitter handle is @DrJohnEastman . :sick:

I know plenty of Ph.D. holders; they only refer to themselves as doctors when being self-deprecating, e.g., "The DOCTOR has lost the car keys again!"

I recall a case where Taitz insisted on being called "Dr." (she has a DDS), and the court indulged her.
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Eastman made a small stink about being addressed as Dr. during the CA disbarment hearings, too.
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OK, now NBC News is on this. This is an important explainer by a credible news outlet. I'm unhappy Willis and Wade did something stupidly distracting. By the way, keep https://dnyuz.com/ in your bookmarks or RSS feed, they get a lot of content from NY Times and other paywalled sites, so they must have a deal with them.

Who is paying Joselyn and how much?

Credit card statements show Trump special prosecutor appointed by Georgia DA Fani Willis bought her plane tickets
January 19, 2024

ATLANTA — Nathan Wade, the outside special prosecutor appointed by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to oversee her criminal racketeering case against Donald Trump, purchased plane tickets for the DA for trips together, according to credit card statements included in a court filing Friday obtained by NBC News.

A co-defendant in the Trump case, Michael Roman, had previously made misconduct accusations against the pair, alleging they had been “engaged in an improper, clandestine personal relationship during the pendency of this case, which has resulted in the special prosecutor, and, in turn, the district attorney, profiting significantly from this prosecution at the expense of the taxpayers.”

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee has scheduled a hearing on the allegations for Feb. 15.
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The take on MTN is that the former couple agreed each in separate court filings in summer 2021 that their relationship was damaged beyond repair. Due to this any claims by the former wife on anything that may have happened after that is irrelevant.
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raison de arizona wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:58 pm I think it is petty to get hung up on titles. That said, I don't have a PhD, maybe if I did, I would feel differently. :shrug:

Also, isn't this the crew that cried murder because Jill Biden wanted to be addressed as doctor, when she was not a medical doctor? Eastman's PhD is in Government. FWIW.
In fairness, he didn't spend 6 years at Evil Government School to be referred to as "Mr.", thankyouverymuch.

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I'm listening to the McAfee hearing from today.

A couple of routine issues. Eastman's lawyer is still harping on the lack of specificity in the charges. Politely. McAfee asked what he wanted. Eastman lawyer said, "more detail." I note that his request lacked specificity. McAfee, poining out the vague, asked him if there were examples from other cases that they could look at, to see how much specificity was called for. Lawyer said he did not know, but would look.

McAfee asked the FC attorney to respond. Wow. So well prepared; so well-spoken; so on point. Explained why the indictment contained all the specificity that was required. So cool and good. Said he had found examples of other cases that explained how much specifity was required. McAfee asked _him_ if he had actually read any of those cases. Oh yes: twenty or so. But he had not attached them to the filing because it was his experience that no judge would thank him for sticking a few hundred pages onto his brief. What a guy.

A little later, FC attorney was talking about Eastman opening calling for "another little violation of the law" in his email to Pence's lawyer on the night of the 6th; still trying to get the VP to hold the count. "Note," he said, "that Eastman using the word 'another' meant that he knew that the law had already been broken. So this additional violation would be the second violation he was asking for. Eastman broke the law right there."

When Eastman's attorney got a chance to respond, he, politely, stated that Eastman was _not_ referring to having previously broken the law; he was referencing that the Electoral Count Act was unconstitutional; _that_ was the first breaking of the law, and therefore was not Eastman acknowledging that he himself had done something to break the law." They went on amicably from there.

But that clunked with me. Not what i remembered. I went and read the email, and this--contrary to what Eastman's lawyer was saying-is what it says:
The Senate and House have both violated the Electoral Count Act this evening — they debated the Arizona objections for more than 2 hours. Violation of 3 USC 17. And the VP allowed further debate or statements by leadership after the question had been voted upon. Violation of 3 USC 17. And they had that debate upon motion approved by the VP, in violation of the requirement in 3 USC 15 that after the vote in the separate houses, “they shall immediately again meet.”

So now that the precedent has been set that the Electoral Count Act is not quite so sacrosanct as was previously claimed, I implore you to consider one more relatively minor violation and adjourn for 10 days to allow the legislatures to finish their investigations, as well as to allow a full forensic audit of the massive amount of illegal activity that has occurred here.
So Eastman is saying that because those effing insurrectionist congressfolk apparently broke several terms of the ECA, they had broken the law. So what was one more little law-breaking?

The way I read it, Eastman's plot for the congressfolk to challenge the certifications in various states was his damn doing, partially at least. So he was hoping, for the second time, to convince someone else to break the law according to his plan.

Small point, but there you are.
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Judge has set 2/2 for DA Willis to respond to disqualification allegations

1 problem for notorious criminal defendant Michael Roman seeking this relief:

The law does not support it

I explain below & in this THREAD

First, under GA law a romantic relationship between lawyers is *never* sufficient grounds for disqual

That’s true even if they’re lawyers on opposite sides of a case where the risk of a “conflict” is vastly greater than co-counsel

https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/su ... 532-1.html

Second, GA law is very specific about when a Special Prosecutor's financial interests create a conflict: they must receive a financial reward for a conviction

But Wade has nothing to financially gain from a Roman conviction!

https://casetext.com/case/greater-ga-am ... lc-v-state

Roman argues that Willis & Wade are *prolonging* the prosecution so Wade can bill more hours - a stretch of the imagination to say the least

But GA courts have never recognized that argument, which would apply to every single Special Prosecutor

https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content ... 8-2024.pdf

And contrary to Roman's argument, Trump and his allies have criticized Willis for allegedly *rushing* this case to trial, not prolonging it

You can't have it both ways

https://www.ajc.com/opinion/opinion-lat ... T53LA5LVY/
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Hearing today on whether Fani can be called in this divorce case. I think Phang's tweets are live, but it appears as though not even Wade himself has been called regarding his finances and the judge thinks he might be a better source of his own financial situation than some other person (Willis).

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Thanks! I think the ruling on this may set the bar for how hard the wolves are gonna go after Willis.
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Okay, is it just me, or does Mrs. Wade's attorney sound like his motives for calling Willis are not what he says they are....
Mrs. Wade's atty:
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I want to know how Mr. Wade is spending his money. I believe he's spending it on another woman and that's my client's money.

Court: In the over two years this case has been pending, we have yet to hold an evidentiary hearing wherein either party has testified? And neither party has been deposed?

Mrs. Wade's atty: Correct.

Court: I agree with Mrs. Wade's attorney about equitable splitting of the marital estate.

But I agree with Ms. Willis' attorney that if the prospective deponent does not have unique information, then Mrs. Wade has to show that she has exhausted other means to get the info first.

Court: Without Mr. Wade been deposed yet or having given sworn testimony yet, without me knowing what he will say, it seems to me that Mr. Wade is the first and best source for info about his money.

Court: Only after I hear what Mr. Wade has to say can I determine whether Ms. Willis has any relevant information.

So, I am not prepared to grant Ms. Willis' protective order. But b/c her depo is set for tomorrow, I will issue a stay to stay the depo until I know it is needed.
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