White House Releases Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate

LM K · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:26 am

No Pilikia wrote:

LM K wrote:

Obama is leading. He is making sure that people are doing their jobs rather than pissing themselves trying to figure out how to please their birfer and non-birfer constituents at the same time. Obama wants to beat a worthy opponent, not some nutter.

Oh, and he wanted to put Trump in his place. But that was just a bonus! That was the toy at the bottom of the cereal box for Obama!

Agreed LMK & thanks for the Superman. Thanks to Adelante for that cartoon too. Anger is part of the knee-jerk reaction for most us here on FB, but these last day's events showed us why they call our President No Drama Obama. While we may hurt for the insults folks throw at him, he seems to do just fine. He stood at the podium in the White House, looking DOWN on all the rest, with a subtle smile saying he was "bemused." And every one of those hateful Birthers that we here have confronted, had to just gag on the bile that rose to their throats, & flush with anger while the blood pressure in their plaque-congested arteries rose 10 or 20 points towards a stroke.

When I read Dreams I learned that the President came to terms with this long ago & moved on to greater things, even when he felt hurt by a few remarks from his white grandmother, whom he always knew loved him dearly. I'm even more impressed by him today than I was in 2008.

I love that he said bemused!

I have to wonder what the Obama's said to their daughters (if anything) about this. Everyone is absolutely correct in their assertion that racism is the spark of birferism. I wonder how the Obama's discuss how racism effects Obama as POTUS. Sasha may not be old enough to pay much attention to the issue of racism and politics yet, but Malia definitely is.

I would love to hear an Obama family dinner conversation.

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:58 am

No Pilikia wrote:

Does anyone have screen shots of Joey's promise to make that donation? Not that I think a con man like him couldn't find a way out of it anyway. But it would be fun replying to Birthers with something like "Where's the donation?" after posting Joey's own words. How ironic, if we could suggest that Kapiolani might use that money to create a plaque at the entrance, commemorating the President's Birth there. I'd love to irritate Birthers with that scenario.

Is this what you're after?

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BFB · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:00 am

GreatGrey wrote:

No Pilikia wrote:

Does anyone have screen shots of Joey's promise to make that donation?

Still online: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=121395

I downloaded pdf files of the relevant pages.

BFB · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:02 am

LM K wrote:

BFB wrote:

uncle_spike wrote:

Wow. I sincerely hope this person is sterilized.

Come now, any step away from discussing non-existing "problems" with the PDF version of the LFBC is step in the right direction. So encourage them when they start to take those first steps.. with any luck a few may even find their way back to reality if they take enough of them.

I would agree with you, except they think the .pdf is what was released. There are other comments that discount the existence of a paper copy ...

Yep; Obama's lawyer flew all the way to Hawaii to pick up a .pdf! =))

I know!

Foggy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:37 am

A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

Obama didn't "submit" to anything. He could have continued to do nothing, as he has done for years. He had a choice, and he could have chosen political advantage over the good of the country. He clearly considered that option. Nobody forced his hand. He chose to take the path of honor, while his foes took the path of villainy and stupidity. He won.

^ This. ^

He may have calculated that Trump would fade away soon. He may have known the CNN investigation was going to punch a hole in Trump's canoe. He picked the time when the wave was cresting in the MSM. He may be grateful as hell to Neil Abercrombie for reviving the issue (and even to Trump for making it mainstream).

Six months ago, I could hardly find anybody who knew about the birthers. Today EVERYBODY knows that President Obama released his long-form birth certificate.

The more I think about it, the more I think his timing, once again, was pitch perfect.

Foggy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:47 am

AnitaMaria wrote:

BFB wrote:

Yeah, but I'm s'posed ta be smarter than 'em.

Actually, even the paper copy of this document is legally irrelevant since the COLB is the only document that HI issues as legal proof of birth. But, we all know that birtherism isn’t really about where Obama was born.

Welcome, AnitaMaria.

BFB · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:56 am

LM K wrote:

BFB wrote:

uncle_spike wrote:

Wow. I sincerely hope this person is sterilized.

Come now, any step away from discussing non-existing "problems" with the PDF version of the LFBC is step in the right direction. So encourage them when they start to take those first steps.. with any luck a few may even find their way back to reality if they take enough of them.

I would agree with you, except they think the .pdf is what was released. There are other comments that discount the existence of a paper copy ...

Yep; Obama's lawyer flew all the way to Hawaii to pick up a .pdf! =))

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Further evidence that morons like Dr. Kate believe it was the digital image that was released, and that is being touted as the long form birth certificate. This is from her site today:

Quote:

And the the much touted ‘release’ of a digital image of Obama’s non-certified long form certification of live birth still doesn’t prove it! Why? Because it is so obviously a fake that intelligence agencies around the world already have concluded that the digital image is a “rank forgery”.

The reference to "intelligence agencies" is some Wayne Madsen bullshit she repeated, in which Madsen claims that intelligence agencies around the world have declared the digital document to be a fake.

I'm glad this woman lives on the other side of the country from me. I wouldn't want to inadvertently inhale anything she exhales.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23532

Foggy wrote:

AnitaMaria wrote:

BFB wrote:

Yeah, but I'm s'posed ta be smarter than 'em.

Actually, even the paper copy of this document is legally irrelevant since the COLB is the only document that HI issues as legal proof of birth. But, we all know that birtherism isn’t really about where Obama was born.

Welcome, AnitaMaria.

X1

Welcome.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23532

Perhaps this has been posted, but I'd completely missed Chalice's reaction to the release of the "long-form" BC.

Quote:

patriotsheart Patriots Heart
How did WH get BC online? They claim WH Lawyer hand delivered, thus it was scanned in - Not possible! There would be NO layers! #phnm #tcot :lol:

27 Apr
»
Patriots Heart
patriotsheart Patriots Heart
RT @handgunsafety: Hey @seanhannity. There is still a question of #eligibility. SU Constitution still matters to Americans. #teaparty #phnm [I wonder what the SU Constitution is... Soviet Union? Has she joined Orly? :lol:

]
27 Apr
»
Chalice
LibertyChalice Chalice
by patriotsheart
BREAKING: #Obama to address #birthcertificate issue at 9:45am EST- LIVE - #phnm #tcot #sgp #tpp #birthers #birther #eligibility #ocra #IMBG
27 Apr

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

Perhaps this point has already been made, perhaps it's just obvious and I'm slow on the uptake, but in terms of all the Birther allegations of 'Forgery!'...

Let's imagine that you're going to fake a physical document, which you're then going to pretend that you scanned and made into a digital file. And let's assume, for the sake of argument, that you're going to do this faking not with traditional forgery methods for faking physical documents, but you're just going to do it the easy way and use a computer.

I've seen it suggested that a shrewd forger would've known to flatten any layers, but I think that's still missing a larger mistake. Because the first thing *I* would do would be to PRINT THE DARN THING OUT.

That then becomes your 'real' document. You want copies? Run the 'real' document through a copier. You want a PDF? You scan the 'real' document back into the computer.

Remember, your public story is that you received a physical document and you subsequently scanned it in. It would be MORONIC to fake your story by reversing the order of those events.

This is yet another demonstration of the problem with anomaly-hunting. The anomalies may seem compelling in isolation, but the narrative they're attached to may be absurd.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23532

I don't remember seeing this video, but the Washington Times goes on record that the digital image is fake... you know, the layers. :lol:

The birthers are all over this one, cuz, you know, the Washington Times is "legit."

#-o

OMG!!! It's bigger than Watergate in its scope and application!!!

Obama is brunt toast.

He must be SWEATING BULLETS!!!!!

:((

Sequoia32 · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:32 am

No Pilikia wrote:

"Where's the donation?"

Hope you don't mind if I borrow that.

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10644

Quote:

Patriots Heart
patriotsheart Patriots Heart
RT @handgunsafety: Hey @seanhannity. There is still a question of #eligibility. SU Constitution still matters to Americans. #teaparty #phnm [I wonder what the SU Constitution is... Soviet Union? Has she joined Orly? :lol:

]

Halfway through that box of wine. It was near the end of the month, she probably had to settle for the cheap stuff until the check comes in.

obsolete · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:41 pm

My apologies if this was posted, but even WND debunks "The Layers":

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292673

Quote:

"The most common challenge to the authenticity of the long-form birth certificate released this week by President Obama that is circulating on the Internet focuses on the layers of images discovered when opening the document in computer image programs such as Adobe Illustrator.

While there may be other challenges to the document's authenticity that bear further scrutiny, it appears that the "layer argument" can be easily explained."

Of course, if you only read the headline, you might come away with a different viewpoint. ](*,)

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23532

Everybody (translation every nutjob) is weighing in. At the P&E Neil Turner puts in his .02 (which is actually worth .00).

Forgery, Fraud and Ineligibility

OBAMA HAS SHOWN THE WORLD THAT HE WAS NOT BORN TO A U.S. CITIZEN FATHER, SO WHY IS HE IN THE WHITE HOUSE?
by [highlight]Neil Turner[/highlight]

Quote:

Obama has now personally and publicly acknowledged, albeit with the ‘silliness’ of an eight-year-old with a crayon and a piece of security paper*, that he is not a natural born Citizen – as defined by the Constitution:

1. Article II, Section 1:5 says that only a ‘natural born Citizen’ shall be eligible to the Office of President;
2. Article I, Section 8 says that Congress (under the authority granted by the People) shall have the power to… define and punish… Offenses against the Law of Nations;

Wow, Neil is correct on something. :lol:

Quote:

Now that Congress has been made fully (and publicly) aware that an ineligible non-natural born Citizen is occupying the Office of President and Commander in Chief (they could not be so stupid as to not know – see ‘Something Stupid This Way Comes’), it becomes incumbent upon them to begin impeachment proceedings immediately, lest their failure to act previously – or especially now that they and the whole world knows – makes them chargeable with Misprision of Treason.

An article written by JB Williams, Managing Editor of www.PatriotsUnion.org, discusses this public confirmation by Obama that he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Check the links at the end (you can contact your Senators and Representative directly without going through their website), and take the appropriate actions to help right this foundering ship of State and restore our Constitution.

Citing JB Williams =))

CHECKMATE!! JB is certainly the defining authority on citizenship in the U.S.

Any. Day. Now.

poutine · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:52 pm

A Legal Lohengrin wrote:

Reality Check wrote:

How many like me expected to have their leg pulled when they first saw this topic Wednesday morning?

I agree with loren's post about Abercrombie.

I actually saw it first on CAAFlog. Since they don't generally joke around there, at least not outside the comments, my jaw dropped.

The New York Times ipad app gave me a pop-up alert the moment I turned the device on when I woke up that morning. Can't remember if I went to CNN or Fogbow straight after that.

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:21 pm

TexasFilly wrote:

Quote:

Patriots Heart
patriotsheart Patriots Heart
RT @handgunsafety: Hey @seanhannity. There is still a question of #eligibility. SU Constitution still matters to Americans. #teaparty #phnm [I wonder what the SU Constitution is... Soviet Union? Has she joined Orly? :lol:

]

Halfway through that box of wine. It was near the end of the month, she probably had to settle for the cheap stuff until the check comes in.

It's crazy. Yes. But she just retweeted that handgunsafety guy.

Sharon rarely tweets her own words. Mostly she just goes to twitter and retweets a lot of Greg Howard and Talubabala tweets. She doesn't generally say anything much herself.

She did tweet this though:

Quote:

# WOW! I just left a conference of Graphic Artists. Obama is in trouble. The WH BC cannot be one picked up in #HA and scanned in. #phnm #tcot 8:44 PM Apr 27th via TweetDeck

Quote:

AND it begins...OR continues! "You've GOT To Be Kidding Me (Obama BC)" http://t.co/rcAjLwN #birther #phnm #birthers #eligibility #tcot #sgp 6:40 PM Apr 27th via Tweet Button

Those are her original tweets. Those are from this account:
http://twitter.com/LibertyChalice/

She went to a conference? I wonder if the GOP thingy she works at had it? Or maybe it was a phone conference? Idunno. Insane either way.

One of her other accounts:
http://twitter.com/patriotsheart/

uncle_spike · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:06 pm

LM K wrote:

BFB wrote:

uncle_spike wrote:

Wow. I sincerely hope this person is sterilized.

Come now, any step away from discussing non-existing "problems" with the PDF version of the LFBC is step in the right direction. So encourage them when they start to take those first steps.. with any luck a few may even find their way back to reality if they take enough of them.

I would agree with you, except they think the .pdf is what was released. There are other comments that discount the existence of a paper copy ...

Yep; Obama's lawyer flew all the way to Hawaii to pick up a .pdf! =))

How did I end up being the one saying I hope they are sterilized? I thought I was the one saying we should encourage them to come back to reality...I'm so confused now.

lyssandri · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:07 pm

LMK - I haven't read all of your Superman message yet (though I will), but it just the comparison of Obama to Superman gave me a giggle since Superman - in the comic series, anyway - giving up his American citizenship. As I understand it, ol' Supes doesn't want to be seen as a tool of the US government anymore, and since he's actually an alien, he feels he shouldn't give his allegiance to any one country over another.

On an unrelated note, isn't is AMAZING how many people seem to copies of Illustrator around to discover this "problem"? I rarely see anyone say that they've heard or read about the "layers" issue, but that when *they* opened the document, that's what they found. What a bunch of kooks.

BFB · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:31 pm

uncle_spike wrote:

LM K wrote:

BFB wrote:

uncle_spike wrote:

Wow. I sincerely hope this person is sterilized.

Come now, any step away from discussing non-existing "problems" with the PDF version of the LFBC is step in the right direction. So encourage them when they start to take those first steps.. with any luck a few may even find their way back to reality if they take enough of them.

I would agree with you, except they think the .pdf is what was released. There are other comments that discount the existence of a paper copy ...

Yep; Obama's lawyer flew all the way to Hawaii to pick up a .pdf! =))

How did I end up being the one saying I hope they are sterilized? I thought I was the one saying we should encourage them to come back to reality...I'm so confused now.

Someone's puttin' my words in your ... mouth. Or somethin'.

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:41 pm

This is at WND with the Headline " Wait! We're not done yet!" :

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292897

That's it. No other commentary.

The amazing thing is that they're not the least bit embarrassed about it. And all the while, the birthers chant "It's about the Constitution" or "It's not racist to disagree about policy".

So what does any of that have to do with policy?

The whole time they said "it could be over in a minute. All he has to do is release his long form birth certificate".

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

Stephen Colbert joked last week about how Trump is demanding Obama's college records, and so Birthers might as well also be demanding Obama's high school records and elementary school report cards.

I wonder if he knew just how real those demands really are.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:15 pm

mimi wrote:

This is at WND with the Headline " Wait! We're not done yet!" :

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292897

That's it. No other commentary.

The amazing thing is that they're not the least bit embarrassed about it. And all the while, the birthers chant "It's about the Constitution" or "It's not racist to disagree about policy".

So what does any of that have to do with policy?

The whole time they said "it could be over in a minute. All he has to do is release his long form birth certificate".

rajah · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:22 pm

From Realist's post.

Quote:

Neil Turner

Obama has now personally and publicly acknowledged, albeit with the ‘silliness’ of an eight-year-old with a crayon and a piece of security paper*, that he is not a natural born Citizen – as defined by the Constitution:

1. Article II, Section 1:5 says that only a ‘natural born Citizen’ shall be eligible to the Office of President;
2. Article I, Section 8 says that Congress (under the authority granted by the People) shall have the power to… define and punish… Offenses against the Law of Nations;

The Law of Nations, the only book to have been enshrined in the American Constitution. All you people out there who have been saying not nice things about Mr. Vattel and his book had better watch out because the FBI is going to come knocking on your door real soon now.
Regards ............Dick

Wolf · **Joined:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:55 pm **Posts:** 198

Speaking as a birther, why didn't Obama senior refer to himself as a NIGGER on his birth certificate! That was LAW at the time! He was not following the LAW by refering himself as an "african".

I'm not racist, I'm just saying.

[sarcasm]

Sorry guys, I'm just sick of the cowards hiding behind hoods.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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