White House Releases Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:08 am

Hektor wrote:

You know the whole Race: African thing is great, because if it's on the Long Form, it's proof that the long form was forged, and if it said otherwise, the birfers would claim that clearly the COLB was forged and probably the long form too.

Getting serious for a minute don't we have something somewhere (will go looking in a minute) where people from Kenya were encouraged to put their race as "African" on the census in Kenya?

verbalobe · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:09 am

realist wrote:

Yep... gotta switch to Vattel now.

At least that's not something to pester the Hawaii DOH about. Those guys deserve flowers and kudos. Hopefully their insanity will dwindle to a trickle now.

SueDB · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:09 am

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... ndence.pdf
Nice letter from Perkins-Cole asking nicely for 2 certified copies of the long form.

Looks like it was written by a very polite lawyer. No where did anyone get called a traitor. Seems when you ask nicely, AND have the proper credentials, there isn't much you can't do.

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:11 am

Just a thought - doesn't this make Kreep's case moot? - Cue motion from Orly to claim ALL the time for oral argument. :-k

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

SuEdB wrote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf
Nice letter from Perkins-Cole asking nicely for 2 certified copies of the long form.

Looks like it was written by a very polite lawyer. No where did anyone get called a traitor. Seems when you ask nicely, AND have the proper credentials, there isn't much you can't do.

I feel validated. I've said for a long time that I didn't think much of the 'Obama CAN'T obtain his long-form' argument; I've always felt that the President of the United States could call in a favor. And that's precisely what they did: ask for a waiver of the general policy.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:15 am

Well not only does this make all of the lawsuits seeking the birth records moot, it also moots this board. We don't need it any more, right?

It's been nice knowing you. I'm going back to my other passion.

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Good bye everyone!

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23525

birthers are so ridiculous...

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well at least it adheres to the COLB but that still doesn't make him a Natural Born Citizen. He is still usurper in chief. Must've been a first to write "African" as a race in 1961. Further research as to who was present and the attending doctor is needed. Next up, adoption papers and school records.

Piffle · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:16 am

Carnival barkers. :-bd

$\:D/$

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:17 am

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

Hektor wrote:

You know the whole Race: African thing is great, because if it's on the Long Form, it's proof that the long form was forged, and if it said otherwise, the birfers would claim that clearly the COLB was forged and probably the long form too.

Getting serious for a minute don't we have something somewhere (will go looking in a minute) where people from Kenya were encouraged to put their race as "African" on the census in Kenya?

Can't remember if it's here or not but Freeper Buckeye Texan pasted this earlier:

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~rmccaa/IPUMSI/CensusForms/Africa/ke1962ef_kenya_enumeration_forms.en.pdf

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

WorldNetDaily has an article posted:

White House releases Obama 'birth certificate'
Cites Kapiolani as location, father's race as 'African'

(NOTE: The headline puts the words 'birth certificate' in fake quotes.)

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If the document proves valid, it could answer the questions raised by those who have alleged he was not actually born in Hawaii. But it also could prove his ineligibility because of its references to his father. Some of the cases challenging Obama have explained that he was a dual citizen through his father at his birth, and they contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born citizens.

Joseph Farah, editor and chief executive officer of WND, the only news agency that has waged a relentless investigative campaign on questions swirling around the Obama’s eligibility for nearly three years, was elated at the turn of events.

"We're gratified that our work has begun to pay off," he said. "The certificate of live birth is an absolutely vital foundation for determining constitutional eligibility of any president. We look forward to reviewing it like so many other Americans do at this late date. But it is important to remember there are still dozens of other questions concerning this question of eligibility that need to be resolved to assure what has become a very skeptical public concerning Barack Obama’s parentage, his adoption, his citizenship status throughout his life and why he continues to cultivate a culture of secrecy around his life."...

"The news media and the political establishment were quick to rush to judgment regarding Obama's eligibility in 2008, without any basis. It would be a big mistake for everyone to jump to a conclusion now based on the release of this document, which raises as many questions than it answers," Farah added.

MORE to come

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:19 am

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

Hektor wrote:

You know the whole Race: African thing is great, because if it's on the Long Form, it's proof that the long form was forged, and if it said otherwise, the birfers would claim that clearly the COLB was forged and probably the long form too.

Getting serious for a minute don't we have something somewhere (will go looking in a minute) where people from Kenya were encouraged to put their race as "African" on the census in Kenya?

Something similar to that was posted on PJ by me. But it wasn't Kenya that encouraged it; it was the fact that African-American does not describe Obama Sr.

Adelante · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:20 am

How Kenyans reported their race in their own country in the 1960s:

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Race.- Write European, Arab, Somali, or African, etc. Asians must write Indian or Pakistan.

Instructions for the 1962 Population Census of Kenya

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

Getting serious for a minute don't we have something somewhere (will go looking in a minute) where people from Kenya were encouraged to put their race as "African" on the census in Kenya?

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:21 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:

Litlebritdifrnt2 wrote:

Hektor wrote:

You know the whole Race: African thing is great, because if it's on the Long Form, it's proof that the long form was forged, and if it said otherwise, the birfers would claim that clearly the COLB was forged and probably the long form too.

Getting serious for a minute don't we have something somewhere (will go looking in a minute) where people from Kenya were encouraged to put their race as "African" on the census in Kenya?

Can't remember if it's here or not but Freeper Buckeye Texan pasted this earlier:

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~rmccaa/IPUMSI/CensusForms/Africa/ke1962ef_kenya_enumeration_forms.en.pdf

Thank you! That is it!

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:21 am

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

Well not only does this make all of the lawsuits seeking the birth records moot, it also moots this board. We don't need it any more, right?

It's been nice knowing you. I'm going back to my other passion.

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Good bye everyone!

I blame Anderson Cooper.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6626

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African-American does not describe Obama Sr.

The term didn't even exist in 1961. Recently under one thread it was posted that Kenyan's from Obama's tribe referred to themselves as African.

Maru · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:22 am

Unbelievable how these asshats are suddenly saying that they have been working on the two-citizen parents things all along.

Chalice's email came in with the headline "Obama's birth certificate proves he is not a natural born citizen.

What losers.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

The present consensus on the doctor appears to be David A. Sinclair.

Honolulu Advertiser Obituaries

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DAVID A. SINCLAIR, retired Honolulu physician and Manoa resident, died Aug. 20, 2003. A longtime obstetrician/gynecologist. Survived by wife, Ivalee; children, Margaret Peterson, Katherine McClatchy, Rebekah Luke and David, Ruth, Karl and Brian Sinclair; 11 grandchildren; a great-grandchild. Visitation 4:30 p.m. Wednesday at Central Union Church Atherton Chapel; service 5:30 p.m. No flowers. Aloha attire. Memorial donations to the Alzheimer's Association of Hawaii. Arrangements by Borthwick Mortuary.

And according to SSDI:

SINCLAIR, DAVID A
Born 04 Oct 1921
Died 20 Aug 2003

Cue the conspiracy theories that they forged the document with the name of a dead doctor who can't be interrogated.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23525

Now even MSNBC has turned the argument to "What is a Natural Born Citizen" which has never been defined, SCOTUS has never issued a ruling defining nbc.

So even the press is now turning, whether they think so or not, to "Vattel."

:roll:

SueDB · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:24 am

Loren wrote:

SuEdB wrote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf
Nice letter from Perkins-Cole asking nicely for 2 certified copies of the long form.

Looks like it was written by a very polite lawyer. No where did anyone get called a traitor. Seems when you ask nicely, AND have the proper credentials, there isn't much you can't do.

I feel validated. I've said for a long time that I didn't think much of the 'Obama CAN'T obtain his long-form' argument; I've always felt that the President of the United States could call in a favor. And that's precisely what they did: ask for a waiver of the general policy.

But they asked nicely and had the proper backing. It was advantageous to the state to rid themselves of this unbudgeted albatross around their necks.

And behold the waiver was requested and granted by whomever has the authority to grant it.

This is a good thing, but I wish he'd let the Birfers twist in the wind a while longer but...you can't have everything.

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:25 am

Sterny, don't go.

The search for the Whitey Tape is just restarting.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:27 am

Loren wrote:

The present consensus on the doctor appears to be David A. Sinclair.

Honolulu Advertiser Obituaries

Quote:

DAVID A. SINCLAIR, retired Honolulu physician and Manoa resident, died Aug. 20, 2003. A longtime obstetrician/gynecologist. Survived by wife, Ivalee; children, Margaret Peterson, Katherine McClatchy, Rebekah Luke and David, Ruth, Karl and Brian Sinclair; 11 grandchildren; a great-grandchild. Visitation 4:30 p.m. Wednesday at Central Union Church Atherton Chapel; service 5:30 p.m. No flowers. Aloha attire. Memorial donations to the Alzheimer's Association of Hawaii. Arrangements by Borthwick Mortuary.

And according to SSDI:

SINCLAIR, DAVID A
Born 04 Oct 1921
Died 20 Aug 2003

Cue the conspiracy theories that they forged the document with the name of a dead doctor who can't be interrogated.

Beyond that, why didn't the obit mention he'd delivered the future POTUS 44?

It's clear this is all back and fill. The historical record is not consistent. I've seen nothing in any of Obama's school writings that explain he would become the 44th POTUS. No footnote in the listing of the board of editors to the effect that Mr. Obama would one day be POTUS and would appoint two female justices of SCOTUS.

Maybe we still need this board.