Suranis, my dad writes in block letters. I don't know if it is because he has crappy cursive writing or because that is just how he writes. It takes him forever to write something though. I think with my dad it is an OCD thing. I can imagine that with dyslexia, writing by hand is frustrating!

In general, clear handwriting is becoming non-existent. Certainly there are valid reasons for unclear handwriting. For Orly, I think it is a combination of having learned a very different language as her native language, her inability to schedule and manage her time properly so she is always rushing and pure narcissism. I am NOT saying that anyone will poor penmanship is a narcissist. I am saying that Orly is a narcissist. However, poor time management and narcissism aren't valid reasons for poor penmanship. Orly writes like a 2nd grader.

Now that more and more youngsters in elementary school are using keyboards instead of writing by hand, penmanship is becoming a lost art. I tell my students that if I can't read it, I can't grade it and they won't get an extension on their assignment because I can't read what they wrote. I don't purposefully grade down for poor penmanship, but I can only grade what is legible. Most assignments are typed, but in class work can be really difficult to read!

Some high schools are having to teach students how to address a envelope. In this age of email and electronic forms, young people don't know how to address an envelope!

Gee, she porked the puppy on another one... go figure...

What a liar. The woman is a flaming narcissistic liar.

So, Orly is screwing up service because she:

1) Can't serve anything in a case in which she is a party
2) Absolutely can't change the scheduling of response to a suit, but that isn't relevant here because she can't serve anything in this case herself
3) Can't serve via regular mail or email
4) Can't claim that something is served just because she submitted the doc to the clerk
5) Can't serve an altered form

What other service issues are being violated?

While Orly is lying her ass off, shouldn't a competent lawyer (I know!) correct a clerk that changes the 60 days to 30 days? The words "Commissioner of the Social Security Administration" are at the top of the form. Unless Orly said she is suing Astrue as an individual outside of his official capacity as SSA, wouldn't a clerk catch such a basic error and not MAKE such a basic error?

Oh, and there is so little to fill out on that form. Couldn't Orly make the effort to fill in a fresh form?




It was Orly who said the clerk changed the 60 to 30.

I believe that Orly wrote the "30". As someone mentioned earlier, the 0 is very, very similar to Orly's 0s and Os. Look at the handwriting where the date is changed to Feb 16, 2011. The handwriting is very clean and tidy. The "30" isn't. The clerk's "0" in 2011 is much tighter than the "0" in 30. Looking at the "0" in 2011 that Orly wrote before the date was crossed out, the "0"s match.

I think that Orly was using a different pen than she had used when filling out everything else. "30" also had to be written in a very small space. Orly usually uses huge handwriting, so she would have to pay more attention on that little detail of the form.

I can't wait to read the response from Astrue's attorney. If there is one. The case has yet to be served.

A summons can be easily amended, can't it?

That point's only relevant when we're talking about competent lawyers, though. The real issue here is whether the DOJ lawyer assigned to this cluster#$*% will properly recognize that an Orly Taitz case is one where you absolutely do not waive any of your rights over "mundane" issues like service of process.

If Orly were to sue one of my clients and I was asked whether we should waive service, I would respond: "Absolutely not, we will not waive service. Figure out how to properly serve my client or go sit on an egg."

We filed several lawsuits this past week. Once filed I mailed them (certified, return receipt) to the registered agents of the corporations that we were suing, got the green cards back, filed an affidavit of service by certified mail with the court about 3 days later. Simple. I have no idea (other than Orly is totally and utterly incompetant) that she doesn't get this. Serving by certified mail is the simplest and easiest way of ACTUALLY SERVING your complaint. Seems like Orly can't even accomplish that simple task.

Well, she gotta be 'breaking a jaw' at 8 AM Monday...so...

Service of process varies by state, and federal courts incorporate the law of the states in which the cases are filed for their service requirements. Certified mail is NOT sufficient in California, as an example.

Of course, you also have a Register of Deeds where birth certificates are filed. . . .

Hah! Tell that to all the jackass LA lawyers who called me while inhouse threatening to have me imprisoned for contempt, because I refused to accept their subpoenas supposedly "served" on my company in accordance with California law. Forget that we weren't in in California.

When I literally did get threatened with jail the first time and reported this to our general counsel, there were many rounds of chuckles and a promise to visit me once in a while.

What is really pathetic is that we know Orly reads TFB obsessively, and even after good folks explain the process here, she is still incapable of performing a basic task.

She must think that all 'ya experts are lying just to screw with her.

Thank you...I'm sure Orly will now read this and promptly ignore each and every one.

I just got a mental image of Orly flying around the room as all the hot air escapes.

Lola!

IANAL,

Assuming for the sake of argument that Mad Ole Orly was the one that made those changes to the document would that not be a case of creating a forged legal instrument?

Mebbe, depends on whose statutes you are looking at for the definitions of "forgery" and "legal instrument".

Well, it's a legal document and IF she made the change she has made the change illegally, with deliberation and the intent to pass the document off as a valid document for personal profit. Seems like forgery in pretty much any US jurisdiction I can think of in the US.

But as I said, IANAL

I see no crime here. At most a mundane drafting error requiring an amended summons.

The suppostion/thought experiment is that Mad Ole Orly mad the change to 30 days, not the clerk. As such that can't be a drafting error it's deliberate alteration of a legal documnent.

Zorba,

Profit does not have to entrail financial reward, it is if the forger "profits" in some manner, such as access to something they shouldn't have, in furtherance of some aim, gain in some area

Based on the handwriting I don't believe Orly made the change.

It also doesn't matter. The defendant in this case has 60 days to respond, period.

Nothing more here than an invalid summons.

I wonder how long Orly will take to actually serve this stupid thing. She would likely get more done more quickly by actually exhausting her options and then filing the suit. But, that's not how Orly rolls!

It's the hard way or no way with Orly.

What Orly does and does not let through moderation always amazes me. Such as this one from the comments to the Astrue case...

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=20018#comments





To which the sadly ill-informed or most likely lying Orly replies...



Her reading skills are seriously lacking, as the poster clearly states it was in a "press release," yet Orly asks for a "clip from a conference." WTF??

Of course, her research skills are legendary. Perhaps she could sic her flying monkeys on the research trail and find some of them.

Actually, as posted her on Fogbow, there are several articles/releases from Columbia officials which state his attendance dates. She could start with this one... http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/08/11/obama.html

What a friggin' moron.

FIFY, beeotch

"Altering a legal document" is not sufficient to meet the elements of the crime of forgery. There are elements to that crime, depending on what statute you're attempting to invoke. It is a federal statutory crime to specifically forge a court seal, but that's not what took place here even assuming Orly wrote in the "30" after the seal was put in place by the clerk. She apparently altered a number, not the seal.

This is a non-starter. It's just a summons. Summons can even be hand-written if a party prefers, as long as it contains the bare minimum information required by Rule 4 of the FRCP. The remedy for an incorrectly drafted one is an amended one containing corrections.

Have we seen any indication that she served the summons? Did I miss a memo?