Threadjack??? my friend...we ARE discussing the Sov Cits - there isn't a country specified for this thread...I would say you are spot on - target...

Absolutely. Sovereign Citizen thinking is not restricted to the old southern Confederates; it seems to be especially strong in places like the interior of Oregon and central Missouri. We have seen it in Australia and New Zealand. I would really like to know when it pops up somewhere other than the U.S.

“COMMON LAW doth control Acts of Parliament (ie: STATUTE LAW) and adjudges
them when against common right to be void” (Lord Edward Coke).

It is time to establish true COMMON LAW COURTS in Australia. A number of AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE'S GRAND JURIES have been held, already, resulting in 12 INDICTMENTS against Statutory Court Judges, Statutory Court Registrars, Shire Councils, a Senator and a Police Officer.

In 2007, an INDICTMENT against a NSW Supreme Court Judge, Michael Frederick Adams, was duly filed in that Courts for Trial by Jury. However, another NSW Supreme Court Judge, Peter Anthony Johnson, seized the Indictment when the matter went for its first Mention, and summarily dismissed the Indictment against the protests of the Prosecutor, John Peter Bauskis, and members of the Public present.

Since then, in 2010, an INDICTMENT against a NSW District Court Judge, Christopher John Armitage, has been rejected for filing by a NSW Supreme Court Registrar, and Writs of Mandamus for the filing of that INDICTMENT and another against another NSW Supreme Court Judge, Bruce Meredith James, are being refused filing in the Sydney Registry of the High Court of Australia.

When various Australians have gone to ordinary Australian Courts and declared that they are FREEMEN-ON-THE-LAND and that AUSTRALIA is a COMMON LAW JURISDICTION, they have been removed from the Court, often with the Sheriffs assaulting them in the process of carrying out the Judge's or Magistrate's orders.

The first step is to convene a gathering of FREEMEN for the purpose of DRAFTING the PROTOCOL for the PROCEDURES and PRACTICES of these COMMON LAW COURTS.

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Last April, a veteran Sarasota Police homicide detective went to the courthouse and tried to secede from the United States of America.

The detective, Tom Laughlin, filed a convoluted document declaring himself a "sovereign citizen." The filing included a thumb print on each page and a photocopy of 21 silver pieces — the price to become a "freeman."

In doing so, Laughlin, 42, joined a small but growing group of U.S. citizens who claim they are not subject to federal law, that they no longer have to pay taxes and that their homes are their embassies.

Last week, he was fired for it.

In his personal life, though, Laughlin was growing increasingly frustrated with the direction of the city and the country. [highlight]He privately worried that "Obamacare" was bad for his family[/highlight], that Sarasota leaders planned to lay off police officers, and [highlight][/highlight]that the city might take his pension.

I encourage all "True Blooded Non-Americans" to do this. And as a sovereign nation with no formal agreement arranged with the USA government, they must stay on their property and not enter the USA. Problem solved!

If they want to enter the USA, they can mail a visa form off to the fed's and wait....if the USA government grants it. Leaving their property makes them illegal aliens and should be treated the same as all far right-wingers want to treat illegal aliens!

Also, since you're now free (in your own country) and not contributing to the USA society (no work visa), your kids can't attend school, and we're cutting off your municipal water, gas, electric, sewer, and trash pickup that MY taxes pay for. But with no groceries or commerce coming in, you shouldn't generate much waste to worry about.

Any problem should work itself out pretty quick, depending on how much food the nutjobs have stockpiled. I'm not happy with the country's direction, haven't been for decades, but I vote non-dem, non-repub, non-incumbent, and hope enough people eventually agree with me. I don't pull stunts like this.

Once they took that first hit off the conspiracy crack pipe, it because easier to find other sources for that fix that helps explain away a reality they don't wish to accept

So, I believe religion and other conspiracy theories. . .

...So, I believe religion and other conspiracy theories have been around for as long as man has been involved in organized societies of cooperation and directed action.

“I personally doubt that disastrous ecologic backlash can be avoided simply by applying to our problems more science and more technology. Our science and technology have grown out of Christian attitudes toward man's relation to nature which are almost universally held not only by Christians and neo-Christians but also by those who fondly regard themselves as post-Christians. Despite Copernicus, all the cosmos rotates around our little globe. Despite Darwin, we are not, in our hearts, part of the natural process. We are superior to nature, contemptuous of it, willing to use it for our slightest whim.”
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“The greatest spiritual revolutionary in Western history, Saint Francis, proposed what he thought was an alternative Christian view of nature and man's relation to it; he tried to substitute the idea of the equality of all creatures, including man, for the idea of man's limitless rule of creation. He failed. Both our present science and our present technology are so tinctured with orthodox Christian arrogance toward nature that no solution for our ecologic crisis can be expected from them alone. Since the roots of our trouble are so largely religious, the remedy must also be essentially religious, whether we call it that or not. We must rethink and refeel our nature and destiny. The profoundly religious, but heretical, sense of the primitive Franciscans for the spiritual autonomy of all parts of nature may point a direction. I propose Francis as a patron saint for ecologists.”

In reference to it [the new Confederate Constitution], I make this first general remark: It amply secures all our ancient rights, franchises, and privileges. All the great principles of Magna Chartal* are retained in it. No citizen is deprived of life, liberty, or property, but by the judgment of his peers, under the laws of the land. The great principle of religious liberty, which was the honor and pride of the old Constitution, is still maintained and secured. All the essentials of the old Constitution, which have endeared it to the hearts of the American people, have been preserved and perpetuated.... So, taking the whole new Constitution, I have no hesitancy in giving it as my judgment, that it is decidedly better than the old. [Applause.]
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But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other-though last, not least: the new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions-African slavery as it exists among us-the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the Constitution, was the prevailing idea at the time. The Constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly used against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it-when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."

Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition. [Applause.] This, our new Government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It is so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North who still cling to these errors with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind; from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is, forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics: their conclusions are right if their premises are. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights, with the white man.... I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the Northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery; that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle-a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of man. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds we should succeed, and that he and his associates in their crusade against our institutions would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as well as in physics and mechanics, I admitted, but told him it was he and those acting with him who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.
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As I have stated, the truth of this principle may be slow in development, as all truths are, and ever have been, in the various branches of science. It was so with the principles announced by Galileo-it was so with Adam Smith and his principles of political economy. It was so with Harvey, and his theory of the circulation of the blood. It is stated that not a single one of the medical profession, living at the time of the announcement of the truths made by him, admitted them. Now, they are universally acknowledged. May we not therefore look with confidence to the ultimate universal acknowledgment of the truths upon which our system rests? It is the first Government ever instituted upon principles in strict conformity to nature, and the ordination of Providence, in furnishing the materials of human society. Many Governments have been founded upon the principles of certain classes; but the classes thus enslaved, were of the same race, and in violation of the laws of nature. Our system commits no such violation of nature's laws. The negro by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system. The architect, in the construction of buildings, lays the foundation with the proper material-the granite-then comes the brick or the marble. The substratum of our society is made of the material fitted by nature for it, and by experience we know that it is the best, not only for the superior but for the inferior race, that it should be so. It is, indeed, in conformity with the Creator. It is not for us to inquire into the wisdom of His ordinances or to question them. For His own purposes He has made one race to differ from another, as He has made "one star to differ from another in glory."

In these here parts we never forgets the War of Northern Aggression.

Others take note of this 150th anniversary of the first military conflict of the Civil War in connection to today's talk about sovereignty and secession. Linked from Reason Magazine More on Libertarianism and the Civil War: Freeman, America’s Turning Point by Jeffrey Rogers Hummel. The comments are rich with secession and sovereignty.

According to the poll, nearly one in four Americans sympathize with the Confederacy more than with the Union. That number grows to nearly four-in-ten among white Southerners. Among Tea Party members, 26 percent sympathize with the Confederacy more than the Union, and that number grows to 28 percent among Republicans.