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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:07 pm 
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Look at the pic of the property 1626 5th avenue on zillow
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1626-5th-Ave-SE-Cedar-Rapids-IA-52403/81656335_zpid/

Compare to the pic Lucas posted on MySpace

http://usabig.com/atnmst/obama_bc_files/houseforsalevirginmary.html

Then search the address on google earth. No street view available, but I say it's a scam.


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Look at the pic of the property 1626 5th avenue on zillow
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1626-5th-Ave-SE-Cedar-Rapids-IA-52403/81656335_zpid/

Compare to the pic Lucas posted on MySpace

http://usabig.com/atnmst/obama_bc_files/houseforsalevirginmary.html

Then search the address on google earth. No street view available, but I say it's a scam.


I don't think that's the pic on Zillow; underneath, it says photos not available for the property.

But if you look up the address on Google maps, you see that the two pictures don't match. So this probably is a scam.

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This is the property according to the Cedar Rapids Assessor:

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Lucas Smith isn't down as the owner!


http://www.cedar-rapids.info/assessor/pmc/

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One of the perks of working for a mortgage company is knowing about websites other than the usual for searching for houses. :)

http://www.cyberhomes.com/propertyDetai ... cc9a4d_pid

Estimated Range:$45,360 – $80,640 Neighborhood Range:$70,500 - $99,500 Neighborhood Average:$85,000

I can probably find more. :) Depends on whether or not property assesment information is public information in that county.

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What would he, Lucas, be living in a house with a sign "Covenant 7th Day Adventist Community Service Center?"

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This is the property according to the Cedar Rapids Assessor:



I'd say that's the same pic as the one on myspace. Fixed up. Belongs to someone else now . Hoaxster!!!


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ok.. just because I found the info and want to feel like I'm contributing something.


Tax Year Improvements + Land Total
2008 $13,939 + $4,573 = $18,512
2007 $9,757 + $4,573 = $14,330
2005 $31,470 + $5,735 = $37,205
2004 $31,470 + $5,735 = $37,205
2003 $29,139 + $5,310 = $34,449
2002 $28,541 + — = $28,541
2001 $28,541 + — = $28,541
2000 $28,541 + — = $28,541

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ok.. just because I found the info and want to feel like I'm contributing something.


You always contribute! That is a nice table! Did the source of your tax info give transfer history? Can you tell who the property belongs to now or if it ever belonged to I, Lucas Smith?


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I shared this over in the Reality Check thread, but it seemed worth reposting over here:

The sheer scope of Smith's past con-artistry is rarely delineated.

We've all heard about his attempt to con a desperate family into paying for a donated kidney.

He made up a story about his house being visited by the Virgin Mary, and then attempted to sell the house online.

He also made up a story about his house being haunted by ghosts, and he made up references to fake news stories about it.

He supposedly wrote a book, that no one's ever seen or read, and when he created a Wikipedia page about it, he made up and included references in the Wikipedia article to fake court cases and fake news articles to promote it.

He sold 'tickets' on eBay for a book he said would be all about his trip to Kenya, and would be published in July 2010. He collected over $200, and never published any book.

He claims to have hunted a mythical African dinosaur monster. For a supposed project that's never materialized.

He's a convicted felon who's served a not-insignificant time in prison. His various criminal offenses include forgery, and passing bad checks on a bank account opened with false information. Y'know, fraud-related offenses.

Don't forget that his first appearance on the Birther scene was his multiple attempts to anonymously sell the unseen birth certificate on eBay. And he's confirmed that he only has the one original copy, so anyone who thinks he's a patriot out to do the right thing has to conveniently gloss over his attempts to auction the document.

And one of the "HEROES" he names on his YouTube page is a pseudoscientist con-man.

Everything about the guy's history absolutely screams "fraud." There's virtually nothing he's done in his life that isn't tainted with lies, fraud, and fabrications. Any honest person would just dismiss his con-artistry for what it is. But some Birthers choose to look past all that, for no other reason than because they just want to believe him.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:54 am 
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What would he, Lucas, be living in a house with a sign "Covenant 7th Day Adventist Community Service Center?"


Either I'm having a deja vue or this came up before.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:42 am 
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This is the property according to the Cedar Rapids Assessor:

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Lucas Smith isn't down as the owner!


http://www.cedar-rapids.info/assessor/pmc/


:-?
I'm looking at the assessor's page and it says Lucas Smith is the deed holder.

Appraisal Summary - GPN: 14224-31013-00000
(142243101300000)
Property Address: 1626 5TH AVE SE
Cedar Rapids, IA


Class: Residential Tax District: 286 CR-COE/MT VER C TIF
PDF: Res Permit Region 7 Neighborhood: SE 230
Plat Map: 2323&2322

Deed Holder: SMITH LUCAS D

Mailing Address:
1626 5TH AVE SE
CEDAR RAPIDS IA 52403
Legal Description: IDLEWILD 2ND W 29.5' E 65' STR/LB 5 3

Homestead: 1 Military: 0
Forest Reserve: 0 Last Chg: 2003
Plat Desc: Plat Year:


Disclaimer: Assessor's lot sizes are for assessment purposes only and may NOT represent actual dimensions.
For more accurate, complete data refer to GIS maps, plat maps, or legal documents.

SEGMENT #1 Front Rear Side 1 Side 2
29.5 29.5 60 60

RESIDENTIAL DWELLING
Occupancy: Single-Family
Style: 1 Story Frame
Year Built: 1910
Exterior Material: Stl
Above-Grade Living Area: 969 SF
Number Rooms: 3 above, 0 below
Number Bedrooms: 0 above, 0 below
Basement Area Type: Full
Basement Finished Area: 0 SF
Number of Baths: 1 Toilet Room; 1 No Bathroom
Central Air: No
Heat: FHA - Gas
Number of Fireplaces: None
Garage: None
Porches and Decks: 1S Frame Open (11 SF)
Yard Extras: None

NOTES:
OFFICE BLDG USED AS COMMUNITY CENTER. OWNER OCCUPIED-SINGLE TENANT. LAND SF=1770. BUILDING SF=980. L TO B RATIO=1.81.

12/4/06 LOT IS ONLY LARGE ENOUGH FOR BLDG. BSMT=STONE WALLS 7'0" HIGH & UNFIN. 1ST FL=3-RMS, 1-TR. 2-WNDW WALL-MOUNTED AC UNITS=NC. OWNER IS IN PROCESS OF CONVERTING TO SFD. OBSOL=ECON, PLMB, INT-LAYOUT, NO-KIT, NO CLOSETS FOR BR'S & UNTIL COMPLETE. ***

1-2007 CLASS CHANGE FROM E TO R DUE TO SALE 11/30/06 MJW *** 1-2007 CLASS CHANGE TO RES. REVALUE FORMER CHURCH AS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING - PARTIAL VALUE RECHECK 12/11/06 DP

1-2008 SOME WORK DONE, CHANGE UNTIL COMPLETED, TO FUNCTIONAL AND LOCATION CHANGE 1/10/08 DP




http://www.cedar-rapids.info/assessor/pmc/

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I would have to see a title report, and unfortunately, the assessors site doesn't show the last sales. But, there was a change from business to residential in 2006/2007.

SALES
Date Type Volume/Page $ Amount
11/21/2006 Deed 6529/274 $7,500

and there is a sale listed. I'm thinking this is when the house was bought.

The current value is at <$18k.

as for the taxes, they are running about 200/year. But that is probably with penalties and late fees. Not only is there the normal property tax, but it looks like there are some special assessments for 2009. I'm not sure what the RT/DA/AS stand for.

Tax History for Parcel 14224-31013-00000

Tax Year Type Installment Due Date Tax Balance Due Comment
2006 RT 1st 09/01/2007 72 0 Paid in Full
2nd 03/01/2008 72 0 Paid in Full
2007 RT 1st 10/01/2008 115 0 Tax Sale -- Late -- Paid in Full
2nd 03/01/2009 115 0 Tax Sale -- Late -- Paid in Full
2007 DR 1st 10/01/2008 115 0 Tax Sale -- Late
2nd 03/01/2009 115 0 Tax Sale -- Late
2007 AS 1st 10/01/2008 140.62 0 Tax Sale -- Late -- Paid in Full
2nd 0 0 Tax Sale
2007 AS 1st 10/01/2008 154.63 0 Tax Sale -- Late -- Paid in Full
2nd 0 0 Tax Sale
2007 DA 1st 10/01/2008 140.62 0 Tax Sale -- Late
2nd 0 0 Tax Sale
2007 DA 1st 10/01/2008 154.63 0 Tax Sale -- Late
2nd 0 0 Tax Sale
2008 RT 1st 09/01/2009 89 0 Paid in Full
2nd 03/01/2010 89 0 Paid in Full
2009 RT 1st 09/01/2010 105 0 Paid in Full
2nd 03/01/2011 105 105
2009 AS 1st 09/01/2010 150 159
2nd 0 0
2009 AS 1st 09/01/2010 150 159
2nd 0 0
2009 AS 1st 09/01/2010 192.5 204.5
2nd 0 0
2009 AS 1st 09/01/2010 192.5 204.5
2nd 0 0

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Interesting Mimi.

What I seems to have happened is that it was used by a Church as a Community Centre and the Assessor's GIS system record and picture reflect that. But Lucas then bought it in 2006 and converted it to a house

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Breaking: Canada Free Press Radio: Lucas Smith Ready to Testify Before Congress About Obama's Alleged Kenyan Birth Certificate Scandal




I'm just listening to the radio show where Lucas Smith calls in. Kerchner and Apuzzo are the guests.

Smith goes through his 'I found the BC in Kenya' routine. Asked where he got $5,000 in Kenya (for the 'big' bribe), he claims he had 'Western Unioned myself' 3 separate transaction of $4,500, and that he can prove it. Of course Lucas says he's willing to testify under oath before Congress - because he knows full well no one's ever going to ask him.

Starting at around 9:30 there's a confusing discussion about who is going to 'work with' Lucas. Lucas appears to want to 'work' with Apuzzo, but Apuzzo was in full wriggle mode, passing the buck back to Hagmann. Lucas still wants Mario's advice before he does anything, though.

ORYR (whose video it is) says:

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CFP Radio Host and 25 year multi-state licensed private investigator Douglas Hagmann did an excellent job at questioning Lucas Smith about some of the details surrounding the subject. Mr. Hagmann also offered Lucas Smith his services to fully investigate Lucas Smith's claims and Smith's documents related to the case.

I would suggest Lucas Smith take him up on the offer. Let it all be examined by professionalsinstead of talking-heads and obots.

That's never, ever going to happen but it's sweet they still get so excited. Well, Mr Hagmann did. Apuzzo and Kerchner sounded sceptical. :mrgreen:

http://networkedblogs.com/fmncU

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As Loren notes above, it is spectacular that people still give Smith even a nod given his past (even though he tries to poo-poo it all, claiming it has been "debunked"). I searched for something about Hagmann and although this top hit is from the despicable Debbie Schlussel, it is illuminating.

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Uh-oh! Fake “Terrorism Expert” Douglas J. Hagmann and his lawyer finally admit that he plagiarized my work. And then, Hagmann–a fake investigator–makes up new information.
On Wednesday, I posted an item about how phony “terrorism expert” Douglas Hagmann–who is positive that UFOs and Bigfoot exist but knows little else–ripped off my work and presented it as his own. Yes, he and his falsely-named Northeast Intelligence Network (NEIN) a/k/a HomelandSecurityUS are bastions of plagiarism. By stealing my work, he opened a can of worms and keeps stepping in it.
The guy has no shame. He rips me off and then keeps on whining about it, several days later. It’s like the kid who stole the cookies from the cookie jar and keeps on whining about it when someone caught him. Only that kid is a lot smarter and more deft than Douglas J. Hagmann. His trail of crumbs is a lot less obvious.

Followed by a long bilious and tedious rant which isn't really relevant except to show this guy is pretty sad if he is ripping Schlussel for his terrorism investigation. Sad and pathetic really...Anyhow, gotta love that another Bigfoot hunter is on the Birfer Team ](*,)

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Hagmann is George Noory's go-to guy on terrorism on Coast to Coast Am and one of many reasons to never listen in again.


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Hagmann is George Noory's go-to guy on terrorism on Coast to Coast Am and one of many reasons to never listen in again.


The more I listen to George Noory, the more I miss Art Bell.

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PatGund wrote:
chinacreekpj wrote:
Hagmann is George Noory's go-to guy on terrorism on Coast to Coast Am and one of many reasons to never listen in again.


The more I listen to George Noory, the more I miss Art Bell.


I know! Art likes his conspiracy theories, but at least tries to find some pseudo-scientific reasoning behind them. He also is well prepared and voted for O. Noory thinks "there are no such things as coincidences", believes in numerology and angels, does little research, never offers any healthy skepticism and has stated "I would not hesitate to make my birth certificate available" should he run for president, which according to the birfers he loves so much he couldn't, cuz his father was born in Egypt. :lol:


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I can't believe I forgot to include Lucas's most recent flight of fancy in my breakdown of his sketchy past:

He claims to have been kidnapped from his home by secret agents, transported to Mexico, interrogated at length about his birth certificate story, and then released in the desert to fend for himself.

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PatGund wrote:
chinacreekpj wrote:
Hagmann is George Noory's go-to guy on terrorism on Coast to Coast Am and one of many reasons to never listen in again.


The more I listen to George Noory, the more I miss Art Bell.


Seriously.

I would often tune in to Art Bell on the long drives home from some music gig or other. George Noory, not so much. I gave it a try, but, no.

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I can't believe I forgot to include Lucas's most recent flight of fancy in my breakdown of his sketchy past:

He claims to have been kidnapped from his home by secret agents, transported to Mexico, interrogated at length about his birth certificate story, and then released in the desert to fend for himself.



I forgot about this.

It just goes to show you how Birtherism is just pure hate. They won't believe the President was born in Hawaii, but they'll believe this scammer.

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PatGund wrote:
chinacreekpj wrote:
Hagmann is George Noory's go-to guy on terrorism on Coast to Coast Am and one of many reasons to never listen in again.


The more I listen to George Noory, the more I miss Art Bell.


Seriously.

I would often tune in to Art Bell on the long drives home from some music gig or other. George Noory, not so much. I gave it a try, but, no.


Me too. Also. I worked the graveyard shift for many years (many of those at Kapiolani Med Center) & it was hard to fall asleep sometimes when changing shifts, so I had Art on the radio as I fell asleep. Sometimes, I couldn't sleep because of the scary crazy stuff I was hearing. It was shocking, from my viewpoint in Hawaii, to learn about the crazy militia folks out in the Mainland's red states. Art was able to get the threatening folks, to reveal things that were telling. Noory? His callers just come across as nuts now.

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Remember Heltan Maganga ?

The chiefadministrator who wasn't chief administrator on the date stamped on Smith's fkbc
and whose name is spelled and signed Helton on the same fkbc ?

Well now there is an "official name" for for him. And it's Heltan.

first of all what is the

THE MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS AND DENTISTS ACT

(Cap. 253)

MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS RETENTION REGISTER, 2010

it is explained here:

http://www.kenyalaw.org/kenyalaw/klr_ap ... oryID=2292

the above law also exlains that there is an official regiter of precticing doctors and that

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5. (1)For the purpose of this Act, there shall be a registrar of Medical Practitioners and Dentists.

(2) The Director of Medical Services shall be the Registrar, and shall perform such duties in connection with the register as are prescribed by this Act.

(3) The Registrar shall keep a register of medical practitioners and dentists in the prescribed form.


now let's go to the "official" register signed by the official registrar

Dr. Francis M. Kimani
Director of Medical Services
Ministry of Medical Services
(also found here: http://www.statehousekenya.go.ke/govern ... rvices.htm)

http://medicalboard.co.ke/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=35

something about the medical board not just any online directory (quoted from the above site)

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The Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board is a statutory authority established under Cap 253 Laws of Kenya to regulate the practice of medicine and dentistry in the country..................

............................

Medical Practitioners & Dentists Board Functions ....
......

REGISTRATION AND LICENCING

1.To direct and supervise the compilation and maintenance of a register and all records required to be kept under sections 6,13,14,15 of the Act.
2.To regulate private practice.
3.To such things as are incidental to the performance of all or any of the foregoing functions.


here is the specific name

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MAGANGA, HELTAN MNJAMA P. O. BOX 41009 MOMBASA 80100 MBChB(Nbi)1993 M.Med(Nbi)2001 GENERAL SURGERY


so it's an old story and this recent find won't add an inch to it however we now have an OFFICIAL name form a Government Registrar


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