Ya, we has forced ya to keep posting here. You have been here for 1.5 years. Sounds like it has been hell, Lisa. Pure hell. I don't know how you have held it together this long. Most others would have Stockholm's Syndrome by now.

Don't like it here? Don't post or read here.



I don't see a single thing in the photo list that says any of those folks are racist or anti-gay. I think that YOU are making that link between photos of birfers and their beliefs/ideology/racism/homophobia/etc. No one has ever accused you of being either to my knowledge. But you obviously see the parallel.

The subconscious mind is a beautiful thing!

If these folks bother you so much, why did you continue to post birfer stuff on your site after the Orly breakup? They are good enough for you to host their comments but not good enough to be associated with you in any other way? The hypocrisy is astounding.

How about this, Calpernia. Denounce the birfers or stop your whining. If you are so offended to be lumped in with them, denounce them; including your friends like Berg and Lisa L. I am not saying that you have to denounce them as individuals, but since you obviously think that birferdom is riddled with racists and homophobes, why not denounce the movement if you are so offended by it. End your hypocrisy. Be free, Lisa! Be free!!!!



This is complete BS and you know it. Calpernia, you are smarter than this any you know that we are significantly smarter than this. God, you sound like Linda Starr right now. I feel like I am back at OC.

No one is rewarding, coercing or punishing you. You have CHOSEN to participate on an online forum. Such forums are used to share ideas/thoughts/beliefs. Participants share their opinions and those opinions are discussed.

One would think, after reading your posts, that you are embarrassed or ashamed of your beliefs/thoughts/opinions.

+1

Blond hair really does become you, BB!

We should be so lucky

Actually, it would be kind of fun to see her try and track me down, and even more fun to see her try and deal with the press and the legal system here. I think she'd have a renewed appreciation for how gently the US legal system has treated her.

In actual fact, Calpernia didn't re-route Orly's Paypal account to hers. Read the transcript of the Dec. 20 hearing.

I think maybe you are Angelina Jolie, LM K.

What Res Ipsa said was:

While that's an accurate summary of the testimony, it's a little misleading, in that it suggests Calpernia did something wrong. Read the transcript, beginning with Orly's cross at p. 121, line 9 and continuing through p. 125. The key questions were:


What did she do wrong by doing that? Nothing at all. Here's why:

• Calpernia was the owner of the site. She kicked Orly off and locked her out. (Remember the background? Orly complained that Calpernia had allowed someone to hack into the site and steal money from Orly. Remember? And since Calpernia made money as a webmistress, that impugned her ability to adequately provide security for her customers. Orly reported it to the FBI, and Calpernia was pissed, because she knew Orly was full of shit, as Orly always is.)
  
  
• Calpernia wasn't hiding the fact that Orly was no longer associated with the site. In fact, she specifically wrote that post, "Understanding the Internet 101," at the very top of the blog and left it there for quite some time. I don't know about the birthers, but every one of us at Politijab clearly understood that Calpernia had kicked Orly off the site and wasn't letting her back in.
  
  
• So the question is, after publicly disassociating the site from Orly, did Calpernia have the right to put a PayPal button of her own on her own site, which she owned? This wasn't an act of deception. This wasn't trying to trick people into thinking they were donating to Orly. She made it clear, "I locked Orly out of this website," and she REPLACED, not "re-routed" the PayPal button to her own account. That's what Orly asked her: "Did you REPLACE" my account with your account, and the answer was "Yes."

Somebody's going to have to explain to me why Calpernia shouldn't have been allowed to replace Orly's PayPal button and instead have a PayPal button of her own, on her own website.

Somebody's going to have to explain to me why she isn't a victim, when Orly the vicious bitch, who drives a Tesla and lives in a multi-million dollar house and is married to big money, wants to persecute Calpernia till her dying day because she thinks maybe, possibly Calpernia got a couple hundred bucks that the Moonbat Army thought they were donating to Orly. Did you see in the transcript where Orly threatens to subpoena Calpernia's PayPal account? It would take a special kind of moron, after Calpernia kicked Orly out, to believe that the PayPal button was still going to give money to Orly. Although I admit, birthers are a special kind of moron. Maybe there were one or two stupid enough to think that. Calpernia says no, and until proven otherwise, that's the answer to that.

I don't see any reason at all why Calpernia, after making it public and explicit that Orly was no longer associated with any of the defendourfreedoms websites (.net, .us and .com), couldn't have a PayPal button on any of those websites.

Calpernia still runs defendourfreedoms.net. She posted on it day before yesterday. She doesn't have a PayPal button on it today, but I don't see any reason why she shouldn't be allowed to.

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.

And everyone here, please know this is the busiest time of the year for Foggy in his personal business. And he painstakingly took the time over the past few days to go back and forth with me on this issue to set the record straight on this posted comment.

No problem. My pleasure. I do try to be fair, and every once in a great while, I pull it off.

I think there are two keys to this thing that it took me a while to understand. The first was the word "after". Orly herself used that word when she was questioning you.


Hate to break it to you, Orly, but AFTER she locked you out and told the world about it, she can do anything she wants with HER website.

The second key is, Orly thinks she still owns the domain names "defendourfreedoms" dot anything.

Because she thinks she owns something called Defend Our Freedoms Foundation. She thinks you ripped her off for those names, even though you're the one who registered the domain names.

So she thinks any dime that gets donated to a website called defendourfreedoms dot anything belongs to her.

That isn't my understanding.

That is correct.

By my recollection Foggy has it right. It was perfectly clear to anyone reading the DOF web site that it was no longer associated with Orly and that the PayPal button no longer went to Orly's PayPal account. Orly had moved over to the temporary site (Republix?). I have no doubt based on Orly's whiz bang computer skills that this all started with Orly accidentally adding some nasty script on "her" web site which prevented people from accessing the site or donating. It was also nefariously collecting information on visitors. Paranoid, crazy, Orly then wrote the FBI, SCOTUS, and half of Congress that everyone from Obama on down of screwing with her cases, "her" website, and her PayPal account.

Of course, the obvious question is why someone would ever, ever, want to associate with a mental deviate like Orly?

BTW, do you think any birther would take the time to sift through the facts to defend you like Foggy did?

It was Easter Sunday, 2009, when Calpernia opened up defendourfreedoms.net to any and all comments, even by Obots, after I spent all those months of never being able to get a comment through moderation, no matter how cut-and-dried, factual, and non-accusatory.

OMG, did I rock on that Easter Sunday. I used at least 15 different screen names. I was on a tear. I posted as the Pope to some putz who didn't know the Vatican is sovereign territory, and not part of Italy.



If it turns out the Christians are right and I have to 'splain a few things to St. Peter at the gate, I'll do OK on most of 'em. I'm a pretty good lawyer still. I got an explanation for just about everything.



Justifyin' how I impersonated the Pope on Easter Sunday might be a challenge, though.

That, I believe was dossier #5.



No, they have not.

Yeah, that was a few hours of fun for sure. Did you know that RSoL Phil spelled backwards is LihP LoSR?

Calpernia used a memorable phrase that day. It went something like "All the voices are freed." I so deeply honored and appreciated that.

FIFY

Me too, also.

I remember that

I was still a lurker, not yet a participating obot back then. Then Orly found a refuge at some place with an x in the name, for, what, a week?

My memory of those few days was that Calpernia was a straight-up person. FWIW.

She's a saint.

Yeah, I've always had to call Calpernia one of the "Honorable Opposition". I might disagree with her politically, but she believes in freedom of speech like I do and didn't play the censorship games Dr. Orly and the like do.

Presenting Greg Hollister:

BTW, who is "Mitchell" in the thread-starter?

And having not kept up with the Liberi vs. Taitz saga, I don't know what the consensus is on the woman from New Mexico, but here she is.

Don't remember Mitchell.

The pic of LL is old news.

I assumed Mitchell was Paul Andrew Mitchell who's filed a string of pro ses over the years styling himself "Private Attorney General". I think at one time he was associated with Orly and on another tried to subpoena the Kenyan Government over the FKBC.

From your link:


Some birfer broke the law.
http://www.ssa.gov /employer/ssnvspam phlet.htm

Since he's popped up again at the Pest etc....

Cort Wrotnowski

Supporting data

http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/pro ... ser=iphone

Search, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe ... =&aql=&oq=

I happened to stumble across Mitchell's name under 'High Profile Pseudolawyers' at RationalWiki:



Plus, http://www.paulandrewmitchell.com/ .