Pink and Green mixed make brown... will we need to walk around with our long-form BC plastered to our foreheads?

Me too.
Tho' I can't bear to wear hose anymore - even for funerals .... much less a corset ...

And Tes is too skinny for the corset website I found.

No, I never used the words "down her throat".

I said "fat yap," which to me means "mouth". Not throat. And I never used the word "down". I said "in".

Shoving something IN someone's mouth is a little bit different from shoving it DOWN their throat. Minor point, but you're not the first person to add the phrase "down her throat" that was never in my tweet, and by fabricating words I never said you do make it sound a lot more violent than it really was.

And what was I going to "shove in [her fat yap]"? If I was going to shove "something," what exactly was it? Harshly worded tweets, as was more than evident from the context. It's really hard to physically hurt someone with a harshly worded tweet. It really wasn't a threat of violence in any way, shape or form.


Nonsense. I didn't say one fucking word about "come sue us". Because of what happened in the past, you'll ALWAYS read anything unpleasant I say to her that way.

Orly spent the entire weekend trying to hunt down my real identity. I'm amazed she didn't find it. Not because I think she's competent, but I thought some other birfoon would spill it. Some of them DO know it. And if she found me, the chances are she was going to sue me, or report me to the FBI, or something.

Now, yesterday realist said Orly was "beyond despicable". She might sue me, if she can, just like Sharon Ann Moron might sue realist. How would you like it if I tweeted to Sharon Ann Moron that "You're beyond despicable," which is an opinion I sincerely hold? Would you read it as "yo Bitch come sue us"? Is there anything I can say to her that you wouldn't interpret as "yo Bitch come sue us," unless it was fawning praise of some sort?

Because I'm not going to praise Sharon Ann Moron. I haven't sought her out; she has sought me out and posted insulting tweets addressed to me. I posted something about GTH Martin's fake lawsuit, without mentioning Sharon Ann. She immediately tweeted at me that Justin and I had "messed up" and that I "distort" and I forget the rest of it. Nothing I say in response to that is going to be pleasant. Anything I say in response to that is going to be interpreted by you as being "yo Bitch come sue us," even though I've never said any such thing or anything even close to it.

And I think it's really unfair to say "that is how it read to me" when I never said it that way. I've agreed several times not to taunt her about suing us, and I haven't broken that agreement. But now you're saying that anything unpleasant that is said to her is breaking that agreement, which I strongly deny.


I didn't delete shit. My tweet is still out there and always will be. I'm not ashamed of what I wrote. It wasn't a threat to "shove something down her throat," no matter what anyone pretends. It was a threat that if she continued her gratuitous attacking tweets against me when I wasn't even addressing her -- and this wasn't the first time she did that -- then she could expect me to respond in kind, and it was nothing more than that.

I've tried to be really nice, really rational, and really calm about all this, but maybe I'm giving the wrong impression. I am still deeply offended by the original post. I don't see how we can say it's a bad thing to be "mean" or to "denigrate" people, and then a few hours later say of another lady, "She sickens me." What the hell is that, if not mean and denigrating? I'm still offended that we have to hash this out in public.

I still haven't even addressed the idea that we were better, nicer people when we were all on Politijab, that we only dealt with facts there, and that there's something seriously wrong about Fogbow that makes us all nastier and more vicious. There's a second thread about that now, about how we don't have the same "respect" that we had when we were at PJ.

I call bullshit, but everybody has their own opinion. If anybody really feels that way, Politijab is still online. I think that's a swipe at me and a swipe at us all, and I really don't appreciate it.

Yes, I'll add a forum for birther legislation soon. And some other forums, too. But for the next few days, I'm not going to be on the board much. I'm having real trouble calming down my anger right now, and I want the damned drama to stop.

I'm one of the newer peeps here and I joined first PJ and happily here, after two years of reading, replying and ocassionally brawling with Birfoons in other locales. Feel free to weight my view as such.

I'm sorry Mari but your stance, an admirable and arguably more moral on than mine, is EXACTLY the reason the Birfoons STILL have air time and a highly disproportionate exposure, based on their real numbers, in the real world.

Foggy's actions were his, his alone and there is no legal exposure from HIS actions to anyone else on this board. Meroni doesn't like being called on her cack, tough titty, what can she ACTUALLY do to anyone else posting here.....squat squared.

Birthers are cowardly, bullies and lie like rugs, real simple and those are the facts, look at ANY of their sites and I defy you to prove otherwise. Their tactics are straight out of the totalitarian mindset playbook.

Meroni is a classic example of the passive aggressive variant of the Birthers and unless you respond as firmly as practical, it only ever gets worse and the threats only escalate.

The core WILL NEVER CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND ACTIVELY WORK TO RECRUIT OTHERS, this is not a debate team, the core set truly believe that they need to attack anyone, in an possible manner to intimidate any who do not wholly cleave to their world view.

They see accomodation, rational discusssion, attempts to include etc as weaknesses to exploit and it only bolsters their certainty that they are right and "THEY" (the eponymous THEY who are at the root of all evil ,which explicitly includes you Mari) are evil commie traitors.

To quote the very same favorite Birthers Franklin quote, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "

Back down to a bully for a little temporary relief and don't be suprised when you find that that you hold dear is now hostage to the bully for your continued aquiescence.

I was part of few who, along with Foggy and others, dug into the mire at the late and unlamented Gretawire. Foggy and the others such as BlackLion will confirm the rabid nature of the core.

Their views will NEVER change, at the end of the day, for most of them, the President is a nigger and they only try and cloak that word as they know it can backfire on them. We finally saw the oxygen of their self publicity cut off when the site was closed.

These core people can only be shuttered when you get down and dirty and fight them on their level, not nice, maybe not moral but the only actual way that pays some dividends.

The "undecided" MAY in some cases be convinced by rational discourse and that is both a good as well as moral way to go with them.

As an example, during the recent Luke Scott of the Orioles episode when he came out in the press as full on Birther. The various sites and boards catering to that team ramped up dramatically in posts with initially the "undecided" followed shortly by the hard core Birthers actively prosleytizing the various cults of insanity.

There was also a substantial increase in posts by the general public laughing at the whole Birther concept who were then loudly attacked by first the core and then "unsure" who started to have their initially incoherent beliefs reinforced by this small but loud group. This led to the general public simply abandoning the field to the Birthers who then re-inforced their post count, sweeping up a few more converts.

The core numbers, I estimate based upon some analysis work I am doing, are in the upper hundreds with at best another 250-350K fellow travellers or lets be nice, the "unsure". This is NOT a mass movement but it has a disproportionate effect due to the sheer volume and fanaticism of the core. We have seen all too often in this and the last century how a small group of the fanatic can drive peoples over the edge.

Foggy's actions were his, I fully support him and will never let myself be intimidated by some LSOS without a moral bone in their body.

I'm sorry if this may come across as a little harsh and binary (birfoon bad, non birfoon good) but I and my men stood guard over mass graves of Moslems in Bosnia and I will NOT step back from fanatics who see different as fodder.

YMMV

(everalm)

I'll whack 'em if i see 'em.

Yesterday Greg Howard was given air time on a Right Wing mainstream radio outlet. So was Anthony Martin.

John Drew is quoted in several of the RW Hate books. He is so proud of that he tweets it to me every few days.

Sharon Meroni is being represented by a GOP lawyer and this latest may get more press. None will be aware of her prior petitions and statements. Of course if you do use her real name when you tweet, and include links to some posts about her prior petitions, at least if someone was diligent they could find it on the google.

Yes, I whack 'em.


In a whack-a-thon a couple of days ago after whacking GWH a bit about his scream of socialism, all the while living off it, he also stated that the close to $100,000 the Mass. Dept. of Rev. says he owes in domestic support was due to interest. So I just ask "how does a person rack up $100k in interest?"

He left the twitter for a few hours.

RWNJ's all come to his defense and tweet at me to leave him alone. That we should take care of our war heroes.

I tweeted back at them that he did 5 years in the service. He didn't retire from the service, and he is not on Social Security Disability for anything to do with the service. That when he was in the service, he was a paper pusher.

He has over 16,000 RWNJ's who follow him. They all think he's this smart financial guru who was a war hero.

But... I could just let it go.

I do the same with John Drew. And he tweets at me first. I think he likes it. Freak.

And I do it to Sheroni too.

I don't make threats. I just point out their lies and their hypocrisy.

What, me? I don't get no respect.

Yes, you do... and you do it very well.

+1

As the 100th post in this thread, can we please get back to work now? The co-op board has met. The membership has had its say. The chairman has the message. Everybody will conduct themselves as they will conduct themselves, anyway. This public breast-baring, in my personal opinion, at this particular time, when the community is being attacked by the RWNJ, and we need a united front more than ever--should come to an end. Enough already.

Is there ever enough public breast baring?

Sometimes the Internet is just a bad thing, but then I remember back when there was a ballerina waxing floors on TV, showing all the housewives how to be pretty, too. We've come a long way, baby

I'd like to second Addy's motion to move on.

Dirty laundry has been publicly washed, now it needs to be folded and put away in private.

I will post this at the risk of

I overreacted to Foggy's tweet because a lot of us treat Sharon Meroni differently for reasons we all know. I was originally attracted to PJ because of the mocking of birthers. They deserved it then and they deserve it now. Yes, there was a bit if a "frat house" atmosphere to PJ from the beginning and that was part of the charm. Does what Foggy tweets reflect on the reputation of TFB? Yes, but so what? He is the dick tater after all and he has a right to say what he wants here, on Twitter, or anywhere. I could have said the same thing on RC Radio and some on the other side would associate me with TFB. If I ever choose not to be associated with Foggy or the Fogbow I can sure find some other place to whack birthers, play Sudoku, or whatever. I am proud to be a member of TFB and I am proud to know Foggy.

That raises an interesting question. We've been speaking pretty freely since TFB was locked down. Will all of this become publicly available when we open up again?

I'm a newbie, but I want to say - you guys rock. I can't even imagine this dicussion taking place on a birther site or blog.

Nice smiley.

As far as I'm concerned they can read my posts and blow an aneurism......but that's just me........

(This is a personal and private view, explicitly divorced in all manner, ways and means from any and all members of any boards I may post on, without the explict, implicit or endorsed support of any other individual, group, third party organization, entity or corporation. This view and opinion is solely that of the individual who posted it and is theres and theres alone.The opinion, view or statement is not and shall not be taken to imply any specific or generalized threat to any other individual, group, third party organization, entity or corporation.)

Damn I really must brush up on contract and tort........

...and homophones!

So sue me....?

Thanks, RC, I really appreciate it.

I actually agree with everybody. And that worries me.