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In general major league baseball players are just about the dumbest human beings on the planet.


Apparently you have not meet many models.

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milspec wrote:
Myron wrote:

In general major league baseball players are just about the dumbest human beings on the planet.


Apparently you have not meet many models.


I think most models are another species.


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Apparently you have not meet many models.


I think most models are another species.


I hear they are very tall....


My sister of another mother was a model, as was her mother... :-

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 Post subject: Luke Scott: Birther
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Actually, Luke Scott went to Oklahoma State.
I guess a lot of athletes' conservative politics can be attributed to the money they make, but I wonder how much is because of how they were brought up, that sports are about succeeding on your own merrit, self-reliance and stuff like that and they identify those things with conservative politics.
In January, former pro athletes Curt Schilling, Doug Flutie, Steve DeOssie and Fred Smerlas campaigned for Scott Brown.
I don't think any of them are birthers, though it wouldn't surprise me if Smerlas was.


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 Post subject: Luke Scott: Birther
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I don't think baseball players are "dumb", but they do tend to be ignorant. Due in part to the long season, their entire lives are consumed by the game. Plus... they are obsessed with baseball. They can spout off statistics for players and teams that played decades ago.

My father was a semi-pro player, and I have 2 other male relatives that are currently players (not in the majors), so I have a little bit of experience with this situation. If it doesn't have 108 red stitches, they aren't interested.

This guy is a major league player, so everything is done for him and everyone tells him how great he is, so he thinks everyone is interested in his opinions; and I guess in a way he's right, because look at how this story took off.

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My mother was a model and is the only person in my entire family who has any sense at all. Her daughter also was one, plus I have 2 cousins who are professional baseball players. Guess that doesn't say much for the family iq. :oops:

I have a cousin who plays professional baseball. He was drafted while in college and his mother had a fit because he chose to not finish college. Meanwhile, the last I looked, he was earning 5.5 mil a year. Most of us would do the same thing if we had the opportunity, wouldn't we?

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Actually, Luke Scott went to Oklahoma State.


'Nuff said. :lol:

Are we really having this discussion? Of course not all athletes are stupid. As I said upthread, many MLB players come from the South (probably due to the ability to play pretty much year round most of their lives as kids and young men). So, you are going to get skewed political leanings right there. Add in the megabucks, and you've got the formula for many of them being far Right.

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My mother was a model and is the only person in my entire family who has any sense at all. Her daughter also was one, plus I have 2 cousins who are professional baseball players. Guess that doesn't say much for the family iq. :oops:

I have a cousin who plays professional baseball. He was drafted while in college and his mother had a fit because he chose to not finish college. Meanwhile, the last I looked, he was earning 5.5 mil a year. Most of us would do the same thing if we had the opportunity, wouldn't we?


My cousin took the bonus money, got himself a fancy car and a fancier blonde, bopped around in the minors, got called up for about a week, never got into a game, them tore his rotator cuff and was done. His college-age son decided on the money instead of school and is currently in the Dodgers organization. The younger brother will likely do the same when he is drafted soon.

I bet his fancy car's doors don't close themselves.

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bet his fancy car's doors don't close themselves.


I believe you are correct sir. Fancy cars in the mindset of a 20 year old boy from rural PA and a 800 yr old attorney tend to be very different. I believe the colour red and big vrooming noises were his main considerations.

Hey! Mine, too. Plus flames.

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So are we saying that Chalice, Mario, Kerchner et al were baseball players or models.
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So are we saying that Chalice, Mario, Kerchner et al were baseball players or models.
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No. None of them was smart enough to rise to those professions.

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He's at it again...

Being a famous athlete doesn’t make you an expert

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“(President Obama’s) birth certificate has yet to be validated,” he is saying.

Scott is a baseball player for the Orioles, and a pretty good one. Only 11 men have hit more home runs in the American League since 2008, including a three-run shot in the Royals’ 6-5 win on Tuesday.

Scott is also a proud member of the so-called birther movement, a group of people who challenge Obama’s citizenship. Donald Trump is among those who made enough of an issue out of it that the White House released Obama’s birth certificate last week. Or, as Scott puts it, the White House released what looks like Obama’s birth certificate.

“If they can counterfeit $100 bills, I think it’s a million times easier to counterfeit a birth certificate, if you ask me,” Scott says. “So, all it is, let’s just see if it’s real. Anybody can produce a document, so let’s check it out."


Oh, and it seems he likes to throw banana chips at a teammate from the Dominican Republic to "remind him not to be an savage".

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My mother is a fairly rabid O's fan and watches almost all their games on TV. She hits the mute button the second she sees Luke Scott being interviewed saying that it is hard to imagine anyone that dumb could even find his way to the ballpark each day.

He is one of those born-again types who thinks God makes him hit the ball etc and has these elaborate "praise" things he does between pitches. Really sets my teeth on edge.

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Maru wrote:
My mother is a fairly rabid O's fan and watches almost all their games on TV. She hits the mute button the second she sees Luke Scott being interviewed saying that it is hard to imagine anyone that dumb could even find his way to the ballpark each day.

He is one of those born-again types who thinks God makes him hit the ball etc and has these elaborate "praise" things he does between pitches. Really sets my teeth on edge.



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Baseball is a sport of reaction. The best hitters are those who do not think in the batter's box. If a player has a high intellect, he must learn to blank out in the box. That's not easy. Therefore, the dumber the player, the better hitter he tends to be. That's my explanation of Luke Scott. I've been around baseball players most of my life; this is not scientific, just my anecdotal observations. :D

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Baseball is a sport of reaction. The best hitters are those who do not think in the batter's box. If a player has a high intellect, he must learn to blank out in the box. That's not easy. Therefore, the dumber the player, the better hitter he tends to be. That's my explanation of Luke Scott. I've been around baseball players most of my life; this is not scientific, just my anecdotal observations. :D


My nephew is currently in the top ten of batting averages for the entire California League. Sweet kid, but I think you may be 100% correct.

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Maru wrote:
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Baseball is a sport of reaction. The best hitters are those who do not think in the batter's box. If a player has a high intellect, he must learn to blank out in the box. That's not easy. Therefore, the dumber the player, the better hitter he tends to be. That's my explanation of Luke Scott. I've been around baseball players most of my life; this is not scientific, just my anecdotal observations. :D


My nephew is currently in the top ten of batting averages for the entire California League. Sweet kid, but I think you may be 100% correct.


Or, he's managed to blank out in the box, cuz there are some high intellect genes in that kid!

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 Post subject: Luke Scott: Birther
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The Orioles are playing in St. Petersburg next Friday and Saturday. Had they been playing at home, it would have been interesting to see whether Luke Scott would have shown up at BWI for LTC Lakin's homecoming.


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Such a dilemma. Bottom of the 11th inning, game tied, bases loaded for my orioles. But Luke Scott, birther is up. Do I want him to get a hit?

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TexasFilly wrote:
Maru wrote:
TexasFilly wrote:
Baseball is a sport of reaction. The best hitters are those who do not think in the batter's box. If a player has a high intellect, he must learn to blank out in the box. That's not easy. Therefore, the dumber the player, the better hitter he tends to be. That's my explanation of Luke Scott. I've been around baseball players most of my life; this is not scientific, just my anecdotal observations. :D


My nephew is currently in the top ten of batting averages for the entire California League. Sweet kid, but I think you may be 100% correct.


Or, he's managed to blank out in the box, cuz there are some high intellect genes in that kid!


I respectfully disagree with both of you, as a former high school ballplayer (2nd baseman) and lifelong fan! The mental calculations that go into each pitch when you're at the plate are way beyond the detection of the ordinary fan. Will it be high and tight? How's his curve looking tonight? How are they playing that gap in left field? How good is that 3rd baseman going to be on fielding a bunt? Do I go for a sac fly? How's the wind? What direction? What's the count? How fast is my runner on 2nd? How good is that right fielder's arm? It goes on and on and on. The smarter a hitter you are, the more of those questions you will answer. Ted Williams could have written entire books about the science of a single at bat. In fact, I think he actually did.

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Well, Poutine, one may think about all of those things prior to stepping into the batter's box. Once in that box, baseball becomes a game of reaction. Situational awareness, is, of course critical, but successful hitters see the ball, and hit the ball. The player who engages in thinking at the plate, well, he's probably going to go to law school. ;)

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TexasFilly wrote:
Well, Poutine, one may think about all of those things prior to stepping into the batter's box. Once in that box, baseball becomes a game of reaction. Situational awareness, is, of course critical, but successful hitters see the ball, and hit the ball. The player who engages in thinking at the plate, well, he's probably going to go to law school. ;)


WOMP! WOMP!

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That reminds me of the old joke about how if you want to screw with a golfer just as he addresses the ball ask him if he inhales or exhales when he swings. [-X

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Well, Poutine, one may think about all of those things prior to stepping into the batter's box. Once in that box, baseball becomes a game of reaction. Situational awareness, is, of course critical, but successful hitters see the ball, and hit the ball. The player who engages in thinking at the plate, well, he's probably going to go to law school. ;)


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The first item in scientific hitting is bat selection. For a swing hitter (one who starts his bat far back and complete his swing with a full follow-through) I suggest a bat with the feel on the light side. For the one with a shorter, more compact swing, the bat should feel slightly heavy.

Next comes position. Never copy a batter with an exaggerated crouch. THe best hitters stand up and have the look of a good hitter. In case your normal stance becomes uncomfortable while awaiting the delivery, breaking of the knees (a dip or slight squat) will relieve this. But of course you must always come back to the position first assumed.

The space between feet should be measured by how well balanced you feel. This will measure about 14 inches for players of average height. But don't think of this kind of thing in inches. Just stand so you feel balanced, and can step either into the pitch or away.

If you are able to put a little extra weight on the front foot and still feel balanced to step either way, so much the better. The ability to do this will assure proper stride and, when swinging, will bring the body and arms up to the ball more automatically. I emphasize the value of proper striding because over-striding is fatal. It causes uppercutting and fly balls, upsets coordination and costs freedom to step in or out.

A righthanded batter attempting to hit the ball to right, or opposite (from normal) field should use the closed stance. That means the left foot is about 4 inches closer to the plate than the right. Hitting to left field, his front foot is about 4 inches away, or in open stance. The straightaway hitter lines up both feet with the line of the pitch.

I always had trouble hitting lefthanded pitching, especially curve ballers, until I went to the back line of the batter's box. [highlight]That gave me the benefit of the extra inches from the pitcher, and the split-second extra time in which to judge the pitch[/highlight].

Keep your arms, particularly the elbows, away from the body. This insures freedom of swing. I also recommend the elbow nearer the pitcher be raised and exaggerated. This, plus a slight bending of the body from the waist up, will give you better body balance, insures automatically hitting the ball out in front and brings your eyes in better focusing position.

Do all your "fixing" as to grip and stance before delivery, then forget about your swing. Watch the pitcher's every move and never let your eye leave the ball. Many batters are thrown out by a half-step, so once you've hit the ball, run with all the speed you have, no matter where the ball goes.

Ty Cobb. Famous Slugger Year Book, 1950 (emphasis added).


Do you "think" while that pitch is coming in? Depends on your definition of "think." You still need to figure out whether it's a curveball, fastball, knuckler, change-up, slider, or split-fingered, and while you're doing that you need to figure out whether it's in the strike zone. These are things you begin to calculate as the pitcher winds up, long after you've stepped into the batter's box.

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That reminds me of the old joke about how if you want to screw with a golfer just as he addresses the ball ask him if he inhales or exhales when he swings. [-X

What golf needs is a little 'chatter' like in baseball.

"HEY, PUTTER, PUTTER, PUTTER, PUTTER!!!!"

"SWING, PUTTER! SWING!! SWING, PUTTER!!"


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