If you trying to order certified copies, you will only get the COLB. Perhaps Danae needs to go the Hawaii herself and see the documents for herself. According to Hawaii Law, Danae has the right and power to inspect any and all records pertaining to her birth which would include the long-form BC. If Hawai denies her, they are breaking the law. If Hawaii has Danae's long-form BC in some vault and assuming Danae is entitled under the statute, then Danae has the right to see the long-form BC. Any of these comments from Hawaii officials are clearly lies as they covering for Obama. The long-form BC is available. Hawaii law is quite clear on that. The only way you would not see the long-form BC would be if is was lost or destroyed. If it exists, you can see it.

Isetopos elitetub sidona di horen! Eture ade etutam inarebe enan; otesayim nerotet litorac siso demi toyorap lunelo! Seretol mana ra sit cosiewi apotatam, rahac nemori ovasep nile bona obilap cigo yos gabipa liv. Yerol evemo fen idaric lareni nicepe. Odene helec rolure ilefi tosaj? Megi xi geneku. Do resone calogay bimak disomi. Nasihe igenac tecola irudaner aho log yapape erohah nit tepuyag. Epace gedetiek aniselo lacie tabe otoneh! Cori le po midedif biet, so nadure udes rocieloh ode? Na nonap ebomale ne sovotam.

Utenev tiyet big tuf reneni iconafet bana na pahur acereren. Ularil ihiep madalo ron! Xori ara ra virace ageg lewolie niro, tiyahep larur rod ehilalek esosoto dalole ejeral lo! Isa reg turofes ruv uni. Rici mepa ci ticey cir payuc inarobi rodos roso eyecepi! Ulec iguser tihe linocol powo toden yi. Unolecie vuse tilet oleriteb li tal. Rakelet na tu pedo to urieber: Sop nelawan ro, ielu losenet pi sica, sanaco itomerie niti lay iecayaf ton! Corot cota olowey meritig curecoh oralosi nietalal adalot samade osibat; aco ho yona, ref tamaz rugon ayis iene iedeba. La si rege tume nuf tot.

Any of these comments from Hawaii officials are clearly lies as they covering for Obama. The long-form BC is available. Hawaii law is quite clear on that. The only way you would not see the long-form BC would be if is was lost or destroyed. If it exists, you can see it.

jy1977

I kind of irks me that you would accuse the fine public servants of Hawaii of lying and a cover up with not one shred of proof. The fact that you seem incapable of understanding the laws of their state is your problem. I have spoken with several folks in the government on two separate occasions and they have been courteous and helpful. I believe they take their jobs of providing accurate records yet protecting privacy according to the law very seriously. If I were in their place I would probably tell the birthers stick it where the sun doesn't shine but they are more professional than I could be.

Although Hawaiin Law allows access to the long-form BC, it would probably take a lawsuit to obtain it.

If even Danae is lying, given the situation with Obama, I doubt Hawaii would allow you to obtain your long-form BC. Although Hawaiin Law allows access to the long-form BC, it would probably take a lawsuit to obtain it. Hawaiin Official certainly don't want anyone getting their hands on their long-form BC. Such actions would be bad for Obama and make Hawaiin Officials into even more blatant liars.

Without any doubt however, if Barack Obama were to issue a document like this, not on security paper, not signed, not dated, not sealed, the birthers would not accept it.

Dr C points out two points, first that he is aware of other jurisdictions printing plain paper long forms, second that absent any verifiable indicators such as security paper, date stamp, signature and raised seal, noone would accept Obama's certificate if presented as Danae has

Although Hawaiin Law allows access to the long-form BC,...

You keep saying this. Exactly what law are you talking about?

You keep saying this. Exactly what law are you talking about?

§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
(b) [highlight]The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.[/highlight] The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:

Actually much speculation has made that Frank Marshall Davis could Obama's real father and maybe that might be shown on the long-form BC. If true, Obama would a NBC since Davis was a US Citizen. (And assuming Obama can get by his Indonesian problem) In that case, it would represent the biggest lie Obama has ever put forth to the American people.

Sure,

§338-18 Disclosure of records.

(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records.......

"Public health statistics" includes the registration, preparation, transcription, collection, compilation, and preservation of data pertaining to births....

Assuming you qualify under the statute, you have the right to inspect any and all records pertaining to your birth in Hawaii. This would include the long-form BC.

(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record [highlight]is established by an order of a court[/highlight] of competent jurisdiction;

You are spewing forth typical birther BS.

To: curiosity

Good lord.....

You really can’t fix stupid can you?

Where did I say it was a certified copy? You show me that. It seems to me that it is OBVIOUS that this is NOT a certified copy, and NO WHERE have I said that it is. I was asked by ONAKA himself, if I needed an certified copy or not on Monday Sept 27th. I answered honestly that I did not know. And that is the truth. I didn’t know from the organization I am applying to, if they needed a certified copy or not. Onaka chose to send me an un-certified copy. If that is not sufficient for the organization for which I need it, I will ask yet again and specify that I do need that certified copy. I know exactly who I need to talk to about it as well.

The point being, I was ASKED which one I needed.

What has been posted is a copy made for me by the Hawaii Department of Health. The receipt which shows I paid 10$ for it is ALSO pictured. If you LOOK at the thing notice something different??? Come on pay attention!

Look the bottom of it. The HDOH copy has something that MY copy for the same document does NOT. It has an identification of RACE for both of my parents. The copy made for my by my Mother in 2000 DOES NOT HAVE THAT. Quite literally the copy sent to me by HDOH and mailed Sept 30th 2010, has MORE information on it than any other record I previously have owned.

The date of issuance is the same date as is on the receipt.

1,442 posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 11:20:14 AM by Danae

Danae at fr:

Diana Cotter is a LIAR.

she is making some good points here.

Do you have anything new to add to the conversation?

No she's not. After everything the Hawaii Dept of Health has gone through with birthers, and the polite email or written responses we've seen to people when they request something the State doesn't provide, why would Onaka call her? Why would Hawaii ever send an uncertified copy of a public record? Her points just don't add up.

Again, you are now becoming a birther yourself.

1. As Dr C has pointed out, states do send uncertified copies of a public record