I don't think this was already posted. If so, please forgive.


They have the smoking gun. It's over.

idunno. Maybe one of you can figure this out. I can't hear it. And there's the little detail that she didn't get one? Or, if she did, how do we know?

via Birther Report:

Sunday, October 17, 2010
New Research: Note to Obots; Woman Ordering Long-Form Birth Certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health in 2010.
ObamaRelease YourRecords on 2:27 PM


There's even a dedication:


excerpt:



http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... woman.html

The video:



There you have it.

From the linked source:



http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.c ... cal-truth/

I hope someone speaks birfer better than I.

I speak a little birfer. The highlighted sentence translates as:

"Although every citizen does not individually get to actually handle Obama's certified COLB personally, the fact that he has one and that it is legitimate is made clear by all the evidence..."

...oh wait... wrong lexicon... hold on... hold on... malfunction.... malfu.... hold on please...........

. . . T E C H N I C A L - D I F F I C U L T I E S . . .

Hilarious. Underneath the video on YouTube it says: "This film was taken in the Dept. of Health, Honolulu HI in mid-July" So she never returned from across the street to pick up and dramatically unfurl her "long-form"? Why not?

It's funny that they even keep up on their website this snippet that specifies whan the DOH will look for information from the "long form", they don't supply a copy of the "long form":


Sounds as if the lady may have been looking native enough not to be questioned on her request.

Speaking of long form B/Cs, whatever happened to that woman Miki Booth who was going to get her sons long form from Hawaii. I have a felling that it didn't turn out real well.
Regards ..............Dick

Imagine that, comments are disabled on that youtube!

Well, one would have to assume then that she collaborates with the birfer who took the video, since, unless he works there, he cannot wait the entire stretch of five days or more to be sure to be there when she collects it. A bit a stretch of the imagination to believe a native Hawaiian would collaborate with birfers, but let's suppose for the purpose of the argument.

One educated guess would be that the document she finally received looks so unlike a birth certificate (even the long-forms Hawaii issued before 2007) that they do not dare to show it on YouTube.

Another, naughtier, explanation would be that the form has a little formula at the bottom saying "any attempt to use this document for other than DHHL purposes, invalidates it" (or alternatively "... is an offence which will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.") If she really needs the document, that would make her think twice about collaborating on a birfer video.

I have a different explanation.

I'm not sure the heavy-set woman filmed at the clerk's window WAS collaborating with the film's maker. I think she had the film running, because she wasn't sure when she would be called to the window, and didn't want to be seen starting the tape. So she taped the customer ahead of her. It just happens to be whatever it is, and she really has no idea what it is. It could very well be a native Hawaiian, and a complete stranger. Notice the film doesn't even wait to capture the very end of that transaction, because then the film maker is called to a different window.

Mostly, it makes me sad for all the public servants in the various Hawaii health and clerk offices, being assaulted with all this crap.

Doesn't give the date when it was issued. So I call b.s. And it's not a Homelands certificate, either.

More lies from the birfers.

The doctor's signature is a forgery. No doctor's signature looks like that.

Yea, but it has the speshul word that makes it legit....Caucasian

As I recall from some posts on PJ, wasn't danae telling Freepers that she'd be posting her new long form BC, which she requested in 2010? Trying to pretend that Hawaii DOH still issues those? She surely got a short form like Obama's in the mail, with a succinct form letter from DOH saying that the DOH short form meets all of the requirements for birth certificates. Of course, she doesn't want to "make ass", as we'd say here, & look like a fool among her fellow Birthers & Freepers. So she could have scanned her old BC that she's had all along? Pathetic how Birthers just

My apologies for not taking the time to read through Freeper threads, but did some PJers call her on this, or remind her of her boast that she'd soon have a long form Hawaii BC issued in 2010?

Where is the security paper?

Footprints? Where are the footprints?

Using birther logic:-
That document has been altered so it is not valid and how would she get a drivers licence if she referred the issuing authority to a web site. Obviously it is a forgery.
Regards .........Dick

To date over at Dr C's we have the following "concerns" as to the purported document (I'm sure I could work "Usurper" in with a bit of help......)

Not on security paper
No seal
No current signature to go with said seal
No contemperaneous (to be fully Birfoon) current issue date stamp
No “This copy serves as prima….”
No “Any alteration invalidates….”

Never been a hospital in Honolulu called Kaiser Foundation Hospital; its always been known as Kaiser Medical Center or Moanalua Medical Center or the Kaiser Permanente Honolulu Clinic.
Kaiser Foundation Hospital is the name of the group (foundation) that runs the individual hospitals in Hawaii, its not a SPECIFIC hospital.

Now, I won't go Full Metal Birfoon and start whittering on about font differences, suspicious fadings, misaligned text etc, I do have at least a shred of intellectual honesty....

However, the links are attached, feel free to peruse...

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g172/ ... heBet1.jpg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-new ... ;page=1151

Maybe it was redacted but the long form seems to be curiously missing the check-box that says "Secretly born in Kenya, but Grandmother registered birth here."

Yes, it is completely possible to see one's Long-form BC. If one orders a Certified copy of a Birth Certificate, he or she will what Obama allegally posted whch is COLB. However, Hawaii Law allow for public inspection of all records pertaining your birth which would include a long-form BC. Assuming you qualify under the requirements of the Hawaii Statute, there is no way Hawaii can deny you your long-form BC. If they do, then they are breaking the law.

That's the exact type of birth certificate they would not accept when I applied for my passport.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurren ... 8-0001.htm

"Public health statistics" includes the registration, preparation, transcription, collection, compilation, and preservation of data pertaining to births, adoptions, legitimations, deaths, fetal deaths, morbidity, marital status, and data incidental thereto.

I would take this definition to include any and all records pertaining to someone whose birth was located in Hawaii.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurren ... 8-0018.htm

§338-18 Disclosure of records.

(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:

(1) The registrant;

(2) The spouse of the registrant;

(3) A parent of the registrant;

(4) A descendant of the registrant;

(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;

(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;

(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;


So assuming you qualify under the statute, you have the right to see and inspect your long-form BC from Hawaii. However, if you choose to order a certified copy, you will receive the COLB. But, there is no way Hawaii can deny you access to your long-form BC if in fact the Hawaii DOH does have it on file.

Actually, according to Hawaii Law, it might be possible to get access to Obama's records afterall. While it is not possible to inspect them or order certified copies, verification of any date contained in such records in easier to get:

§338-18 Disclosure of records.

(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes.

The problem with the Danae COLB is that it appears to bear no certification at all. It is (I am quite comfortable conceding) a photocopy of her "long form." Every time I have requested a birth or death record in my family history pursuit (and I have done so hundreds of times) the document I receive bears the date the copy was issued. My own California "long form" reflects my 1956 birth, but a date of issue of "JUN 30 1980" since that was when they sent me the copy I requested.

Danae may have shown that she possesses a copy of her "long form." But to this point she has provided exactly zero evidence that it was issued as response to a contemporary request.

Her form looks exactly like the one I got from the State of Louisiana. At the time I ordered mine (crica 2000), it was a photocopy of the original printed onto security paper. I've scanned/copied my own B/C before. There are some security features that show though.

Like the border around the paper.

Or, the date stamp from when it was issued.

It's a fake.