Tim Adams: Witness to Infamy?

PhilGA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:49 am

Enjoy my newest posting, as promised:

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/2010/06/11/trsol-exclusive-hi-elections-clerk-i-believe-obama-is-eligible-to-hold-office/

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23596

Thanks for the link and thanks for posting his email.

To me, it shows his Jeckyll and Hyde mentality. In the video he makes entirely different statements than what he does in his email to you and to others I've read purported to be from him. He's nutz.

I was more interested in a comment you made in your article related to "all the facts." I randomly clicked on one of your eligibility links and this comment kind of jumped out at me: "Berg vs. Obama has been delayed. Oral arguments appealing the summary dismissal on

PatGund · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:23 am

PhilGA wrote:

While I'll side with WND on a number of issues over which they've chosen to post, I had wondered (emphasis on had; and no, I'm not being had here!) why they would run with a story that was based on a video put forth by a white-supremacist group. To me, it was little wonder once I received a response back directly from the source.

And it's not the only connection WND has in that regard either. Jerome Corsi has appeared on James Edward's show before. And James Edwards, who was the one interviewing Tim Adams, is an acknowledged member of Stormfront.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

PatGund wrote:

And it's not the only connection WND has in that regard either. Jerome Corsi has appeared on James Edward's show before.

I saw that mentioned the other day on the Cesspool's Wiki page. I figured that was at least one reason why WND didn't mention the affiliations of Edward's show, or even the *name* of his program ("he was briefly interviewed by James Edwards, host of a weekly radio show on WLRM Radio in Memphis, Tenn."). And even then they buried that comment deep in the article, putting it just before their rote unrelated birther material at the bottom.

bob · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:42 am

PhilGA wrote:

While I'll side with WND on a number of issues over which they've chosen to post, I had wondered (emphasis on had; and no, I'm not being had here!) why they would run with a story that was based on a video put forth by a white-supremacist group.

Why would WND do this? Because this president upsets WND so much, it has no problem continuously spreading disinformation about him, or lying down in the mud with anyone who will tell lies. (And also WND survives by separating angry people from their money, and will do anything to further that endeavor.)

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

bob wrote:

(And also WND survives by separating angry people from their money, and will do anything to further than endeavor.)

One old report about WND says that they've admitted in the past that 80% of WND's income comes through stuff they sell in their store.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

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Highlands · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:12 pm

neonzx wrote:

Thanks, Phil.

FYI, did you notice your blog appears to have been hacked by a spammer?

Hacked? Phil's blog has been full of spam since, well, forever.

Adelante · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:17 pm

Yeah. The guy is a puzzle. He's nutz but knows when and how not to seem nutz. I actually thought WND made Adams look a lot better than he's done himself. I'm beginning to wonder if the whole thing is a hoax, though. Not about the information nobody had access to, but the rest of it, the performance.

BTW, does anyone have a YouTube channel link for this person? I'd like to watch him if I could instead of just reading or listening.

realist wrote:

To me, it shows his Jeckyll and Hyde mentality. In the video he makes entirely different statements than what he does in his email to you and to others I've read purported to be from him. He's nutz.

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:25 pm

Loren wrote:

mimi wrote:

You don't think he has a credibility issue?

He wrote he was an ex-convict and a murderer.

His book says the military doctors diagnosed him with mental illness. Nobody would share a room with him. He talks of anger issues. He talks of violence. And, he has posted racist rants.

The racist rant stuff is obvious, but I'd like to stress that the stuff he wrote in his book is not necessarily autobiographical. It's not clear whether he's writing about personal experience, or whether he's writing first-person fiction. So while his writing may tell us something about him, I would take the 'personal confessions' with a big grain of salt.

Yes, the book is listed as fiction.

The murder comment was on the Yahoo Answers page, or whatever it's called.

I didn't say I believed what he said. I do think he has issues. And, the point is, how can he be deemed credible?

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:28 pm

neonzx wrote:

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mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:30 pm

richCares wrote:

Dr C got the follwing email replay from Hawaii:
Our records indicate that Mr. Adams was employed in a clerical position as an Elections Clerk. Our office does not have access to birth records. Birth records are handled by the State of Hawaii, Department of Health.
.
Tim is wingnug and as their normal practice he embellished his story a bit. Common for wingbuts and birthers, part of "Argument from Authority" concept. (same reason manning touts his PHD)

Tim is a POS. But, wonder why he did it?

twinx · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:31 pm

Adelante wrote:

BTW, does anyone have a YouTube channel link for this person? I'd like to watch him if I could instead of just reading or listening.

Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/user/xray3delta

PhilGA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:41 pm

neonzx wrote:

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Crazy...

Adelante · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:51 pm

Where was that from, Mimi? I haven't seen it marketed as fiction.

mimi wrote:

Yes, the book is listed as fiction.

Amazon has:

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Adelante · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:52 pm

Twinx, thank you :hug:

twinx wrote:

Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/user/xray3delta

lyssandri · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:52 pm

bogus info wrote:

Quote:

Thursday, June 10, 2010
Hawaii Confirms Tim Adams Was 'Senior Elections Clerk' in the 2008 Election, Oh, Adams is also a Hillary Clinton Supporter!
ObamaRelease YourRecords on 1:32 AM
excerpts

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It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008.

Quote:

"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the City and County of Honolulu.

Ok, we know they are willing to accept the word of the elections administrator for the City and County of Honolulu, what do you want to bet they'll claim that the clerk Bogus talked to is lying...

Old Grunt · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:28 pm **Posts:** 920

I am kind of curious as to what the County of Honolulu is going to say about this guy abusing his position to access (or attempt to access) private information on people when it was clearly outside the scope of his job.

It kind of reminds me of our electronic chart system at the hospital. Everything's automated, but if you search for someone's records, you'd better be able to justify it if you are ever asked.

Adelante · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:11 pm

I haven't watched anything yet, but here is a comment from the man himself, who seems pleased by the attention.

Quote:

xray3delta commented on Reporting 3.wmv (1 day ago)

"I would like to thank everyone as I have been inundated with Email and phone calls about my interview on the Political Cesspool, I will try to get to everyone in the order they were received between now and the weekend. I would like to thank everyone for their support, and especially Mr. James Edwards, Bill and family at the PC. "

twinx wrote:

Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/user/xray3delta

PhilGA · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:13 pm

OK, I'm blaming PJ over this (no, I'm not, but since I'm soon going on vacation, I'm getting giddy).

You would have thought I just opened up a hose-pipe (as they say here in Gaw-giah) on my posting. The back-channel commentary has been incredible.

Wow. I say a few words of critique about WMD and folks go ballistic (it's not like I haven't taken WND to task before; I guess it just wasn't as important then...).

Ah well, that's the way it goes, I guess. And all I've done is attempted to bring some sanity to WND's sensationalism.

As I said in an update to my posting, the lack of evidence is only evidence that something is lacking; it is not evidence that something is necessarily so. Or, two negatives only make a positive in mathematics.

](*,)

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:26 pm

Adelante did a really good job in her post.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=10857

Pat is slackin' off. [or moving.]

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:28 pm

Loren wrote:

The racist rant stuff is obvious, but I'd like to stress that the stuff he wrote in his book is not necessarily autobiographical. It's not clear whether he's writing about personal experience, or whether he's writing first-person fiction. So while his writing may tell us something about him, I would take the 'personal confessions' with a big grain of salt.

This is indeed a collection of fictional short stories written in the first person. They read like autobiographies and small parts of them may have some foundation in his real life, but these stories are not a confession to being a murderer or to being violently mentally ill. They are not an account of his exploits. This is a book that honors violence, deviance, and self-abuse, and it is badly written. In its irresponsible practice of just reprinting the publisher's blurb (i.e., Adams' description of this work), Amazon makes Adams' "story" seem real:

Quote:

Collection of Non-fiction and short fiction works by author and playwright, Timothy Lee Adams, soldier,government agent, and one time known terrorist during the 1980's; Mr. Adams became an advocate for civil rights and has had many adventures.

So why did he burst onto the scene with his absurd claims about what he learned as Chief Elections Clerk in Honolulu? I think he wanted publicity for this book. He sees himself as a writer (hence, the graduate study in English) and expects this work to be the start of a highly successful career as a writer of fiction. He is catering to an audience that talks about violence a lot, including Stormfront and the Birfers outside Stormfront. His work fits right in.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

PhilGA wrote:

As I said in an update to my posting, the lack of evidence is only evidence that something is lacking; it is not evidence that something is necessarily so. Or, two negatives only make a positive in mathematics.

And you continued with,

Quote:

Some of us (that would be, yours truly) have been saying from the beginning that we have zero, zilch, nada evidence, in-hand, to confirm or deny Mr. Obama

_________________
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Adelante · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:46 pm

Is there something wrong with my browser or am I losing my mind? Why don't I see this product description on Amazon? FWIW, on his YouTube, he describes the book as a "collection of anecdotes."

TollandRCR wrote:

This is indeed a collection of fictional short stories written in the first person. They read like autobiographies and small parts of them may have some foundation in his real life, ... In its irresponsible practice of just reprinting the publisher's blurb (i.e., Adams' description of this work), Amazon makes Adams' "story" seem real:

Quote:

Collection of Non-fiction and short fiction works by author and playwright, Timothy Lee Adams, soldier,government agent, and one time known terrorist during the 1980's; Mr. Adams became an advocate for civil rights and has had many adventures.

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:54 pm

Adelante wrote:

Is there something wrong with my browser or am I losing my mind? Why don't I see this product description on Amazon? FWIW, on his YouTube, he describes the book as a "collection of anecdotes."

TollandRCR wrote:

This is indeed a collection of fictional short stories written in the first person. They read like autobiographies and small parts of them may have some foundation in his real life, ... In its irresponsible practice of just reprinting the publisher's blurb (i.e., Adams' description of this work), Amazon makes Adams' "story" seem real:

Quote:

Collection of Non-fiction and short fiction works by author and playwright, Timothy Lee Adams, soldier,government agent, and one time known terrorist during the 1980's; Mr. Adams became an advocate for civil rights and has had many adventures.

The original book is available from Amazon Stories I've Finished Before I'm Dead. The River is sort of a second edition of this book, I believe; I don't see it on Amazon. There are no reviews from responsible publications like Publishers' Weekly, and there are no customer reviews.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

Tim Adams: Witness to Infamy?

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