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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:24 am 
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This appears to be a spin-off from AGJ?

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Sukebegg just posted that Bob was removing the RAP discussion. These were the Guardians of the free republics or something.

See sukebegg's post:

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Wonder why he put it in the Politics thread?

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Posted on May 14, 2010 by gregnh

I took the day off today to go to my home town of Malden MA to get myself the necessary paper work to become a sovereign Citizen and ran into to two fine peace officers. Of course they are not aware that they are now in fact peace officers but I had a lovely conversation with John and George. Both of whom are in full support of the Massachusetts based Gillette Company.


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Just listened to Tim Turners call tonight and he said two things I found important to pass on

#1. 90% of the military is now on Board

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I guess they are going to take over the government? :shock:

Well bogus according to the link you gave they already have:
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I also did notice that the flags that I seen were not gold fringed. I just found it strange that someone like Barry Soetoro would have authorized MINUTEMEN in this ceremony it was almost like someone was trying to tell the public something and it was not Barry as his look was not one of pleasure

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I did notice no fringe on the flags

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Well bogus according to the link you gave they already have:

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I also did notice that the flags that I seen were not gold fringed. I just found it strange that someone like Barry Soetoro would have authorized MINUTEMEN in this ceremony it was almost like someone was trying to tell the public something and it was not Barry as his look was not one of pleasure


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[wrapimg]http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee232/foghorn_leghorn_photos/new/norm2.jpg[/wrapimg]Floridafree has been one of the most active members of American Fake Grand Jury, but he has finally had a split with Offshore Jobs Bob over trying to support the AFGJ folks and still devote himself to the Restore Amerika Plan. He has a farewell to the AFGJ team in the sekrit AFGJ forum, where he tells people how to contact him.

He seriously believes this stuff that 90% of the military is secretly planning to overthrow the government, and he's thrilled about the possibility. Creepy little schmuck.

Yeah, on the AFGJ Facebook page, I wuz yankin' their chains and mentioned that I was a retired lawyer, and the next guy to comment asked me if there was an "Article 4 flag" in "the" courtroom where I worked. Like I had only been in one courtroom in my life, and if the flag had gold fringe, maybe I wasn't really a legal lawyer. :D

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Wonder why he put it in the Politics thread?

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Posted on May 14, 2010 by gregnh

... get myself the necessary paper work to become a sovereign Citizen ...

There's paperwork for that? :o And you submit it to whoever is in charge of sovereign-ness?

These people.

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Yeah, on the AFGJ Facebook page, I wuz yankin' their chains and mentioned that I was a retired lawyer, and the next guy to comment asked me if there was an "Article 4 flag" in "the" courtroom where I worked. Like I had only been in one courtroom in my life, and if the flag had gold fringe, maybe I wasn't really a legal lawyer.


From reading their comments, they don't like lawyers much. :lol: :lol:

The guy is creepy, big time. :shock:


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bogus info wrote:
Wonder why he put it in the Politics thread?

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The Restore America Plan
Posted on May 14, 2010 by gregnh

... get myself the necessary paper work to become a sovereign Citizen ...

There's paperwork for that? :o And you submit it to whoever is in charge of sovereign-ness?

These people.


Jerry Kane's widow can take care of that for you:

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[center]DECLARATION



NOTICE TO AGENT IS NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL

NOTICE TO PRINCIPAL IS NOTICE TO AGENT[/center]



KNOW ALL MEN, BY THESE PRESENTS THAT:



I, Donna-Lee; Wray, am a titled sovereign, neutral, non-combatant, child of God, my Creator and free man upon the land of the Republic of Florida, hereby proclaims that: I am not a United States Citizen; 14th Amendment Citizen; Trustee; Beneficiary; Surety; Debtor; Corporation or other Corporate Entity and that I am a living, flesh and blood man, of legal age, competent to testify, having firsthand knowledge of the truth and facts contained herein being correct, certain and not misleading.



I, Donna-Lee; Wray, am not the Surety, Trustee, Beneficiary or Administrator of any presumed or appointed constructive trust, agreement, implied or expressed contract[s] or liability regarding, DONNA LEE WRAY; DONNA L. WRAY; DONNA WRAY, or any derivative thereof, which is a corporation, corporate fiction and entity and I deny the existence of any trust, agreement, implied or expressed contract[s] and or relationship between my living man and the above corporate fictional entity and any local, county, state or federal corporate government body, entity, agent or agency.



I, Donna-Lee; Wray, deny consent and refuse any future liability, assignment or appointment as a trustee, surety, beneficiary or administrator over any implied, presumed or constructive trust indenture relationship[s] regarding the above corporate fictional entity and or any relationship with any corporate governmental entity, agent or agency. To bring or rely upon an action in equity; the opposition must give equity to receive equity and any presumptive bill of equity has been discharged, settled and the trust executed, ad infinitum.



I, Donna-Lee; Wray, doth hereby certify that this declaration is presented [at-arms-length] and [with-clean-hands], in affidavit form to prove the truth of a matter, with all rights reserved, without prejudice or recourse, UCC 1-308 and hereto affirms that the content contained herein, to be true, correct, complete, not misleading, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.



By: _________________________________



Sworn to and subscribed before me this

_______ day of __________________,

2010, at ________________________,

in ________________ County, Florida.



_______________________________ seal

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I have no idea what it means. I'm a sheeple. ;;)



I just do not understand how anyone can go off the deep end. That so called document is nothing but jibberish. How can anyone convince themselves of this BS? :shock: I just don't get it and don't want to get it. [-(


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I just do not understand how anyone can go off the deep end. That so called document is nothing but jibberish. How can anyone convince themselves of this BS? :shock: I just don't get it and don't want to get it. [-(

One of the reasons might be that Christopher-Earl; Strunk

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It's magic. I like the even more irrational touch of the jurat. I thought notaries were LICENSED BY THE STATE!

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I just do not understand how anyone can go off the deep end. That so called document is nothing but jibberish. How can anyone convince themselves of this BS? :shock: I just don't get it and don't want to get it. [-(

This is like a cargo cult. They've seen legal filings that they don't understand, filled with high-sounding words and phrases that are gibberish to them, yet somehow these documents make things happen. So they have come up with their own gibberish-filled documents and expect the magic words to make things happen for them, too.

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I have no idea what it means. I'm a sheeple. ;;)

Me either, Mimi, although I wonder: If the USA granted all these assholes their wish and made them "sovereign citizens," doesn't that mean they could be kicked out of the country that they've decided they don't want to be part of? Wouldn't they be illegal aliens?

Or is that wishful thinking on my part?

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This is like a cargo cult. They've seen legal filings that they don't understand, filled with high-sounding words and phrases that are gibberish to them, yet somehow these documents make things happen. So they have come up with their own gibberish-filled documents and expect the magic words to make things happen for them, too.

ducktape


After they fork over the money to take a "course" to learn the scam. I have a feeling that all this talk about RAP getting ready to spring into action soon simply means they intend to use the upcoming trial to recruit more dopes into their sovereign citizen scheme.

I also expect Walter Reed will have heavy-duty security and screening for the Lakin trial, knowing that some of these unhinged loons may show up.

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mimi wrote:
I have no idea what it means. I'm a sheeple. ;;)

Me either, Mimi, although I wonder: If the USA granted all these assholes their wish and made them "sovereign citizens," doesn't that mean they could be kicked out of the country that they've decided they don't want to be part of? Wouldn't they be illegal aliens?

Or is that wishful thinking on my part?

There are still a few uninhabited Pacific islands upon which all the Sovereign Citizens could fit. This could be a lifetime in paradise for them once they learned how to fish with spears made from local wood and figured out how to get a fire started. Their only concern would be if the French resumed testing nuclear bombs in the area. They could learn from cheerleaders how to make a signal to be used when an airplane is heard. This would involve all of them lying on the beach in the form of a message
[center]Please Don't Bomb Us![/center]
This would not work so well for typhoons.

South Carolina has been suggested as an alternative due to the dense concentration of Sovereign Citizens and nut jobs there, but Charleston and Savannah would have to be kept as international enclaves from which Sovereign Citizens would be excluded. The nation could ill afford to lose she-crab soup.

Seriously, if they do not want to be part of this country and explicitly say so, are they not illegal aliens now? Are they not now men and women without a country?

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There are still a few uninhabited Pacific islands upon which all the Sovereign Citizens could fit. This could be a lifetime in paradise for them once they learned how to fish with spears made from local wood and figured out how to get a fire started.


=)) As if.


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You know, if it got rid of them, I would give them fire-making and other equipment as a head start. My guess is, based on their inability to cooperate with one another, we'd have some creepy Lord of the Flies or Lost situation develop in short order.


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There are still a few uninhabited Pacific islands upon which all the Sovereign Citizens could fit. This could be a lifetime in paradise for them once they learned how to fish with spears made from local wood and figured out how to get a fire started.


=)) As if.

Maybe if on their voyage by ship to their promised land each of them brought along in their pockets a large hot coal, wrapped in foil, some of them would arrive with fire in their pants. This might also cut down the population of Sovereign Citizens as those who used an inferior brand of foil leaped into the sea. They'll have to remember that fire needs oxygen, so the coal cannot be entirely wrapped.

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My guess is, based on their inability to cooperate with one another, we'd have some creepy Lord of the Flies or Lost situation develop in short order.

Works for me.

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My guess is, based on their inability to cooperate with one another, we'd have some creepy Lord of the Flies or Lost situation develop in short order.

Works for me.


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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:49 pm 
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kimba wrote:
My guess is, based on their inability to cooperate with one another, we'd have some creepy Lord of the Flies or Lost situation develop in short order.

Works for me.


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There are still a few uninhabited Pacific islands upon which all the Sovereign Citizens could fit. This could be a lifetime in paradise for them once they learned how to fish with spears made from local wood and figured out how to get a fire started.


I vote for the desert in Idaho. Wot? You didn't know Idaho has a desert? You do now.

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There are still a few uninhabited Pacific islands upon which all the Sovereign Citizens could fit. This could be a lifetime in paradise for them once they learned how to fish with spears made from local wood and figured out how to get a fire started.


I vote for the desert in Idaho. Wot? You didn't know Idaho has a desert? You do now.

You mean this one? Seems like a perfect place for them.
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Would it be possible to fence it in? Say, move that fence from the Mexican border to Idaho?

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Wonder why he put it in the Politics thread?

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The Restore America Plan
Posted on May 14, 2010 by gregnh

... get myself the necessary paper work to become a sovereign Citizen ...

There's paperwork for that? :o And you submit it to whoever is in charge of sovereign-ness?

These people.

And you have to provide fingerprints and a DNA sample to prove you are NBC. I kid you not.
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