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Or maybe she has not yet filed a formal complaint against Dunn because somebody pointed out to her that she is truly ineligible to run for SoS. I don't think that dual citizenship would disqualify a candidate, but a dual citizenship of Molovan/Israeli certainly would.

Well, you know how there's citizen, natural born citizen, native born citizen, "Natural Born Citizen" (aka Article 2 citizen), Article 14 citizen, naturalized citizen, etc.?

Perhaps Orly is a Taft Correspondence School Citizen, imbued with all the rights and privileges thereto, including the right to be utterly certain in one's correctness, while at the same time utterly wrong.

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Davey Crockett, one of Orly's loyal Birfoons, has it figured out. The Republicans put Damon Dunn up to run so that they could defeat Lady Liberty:
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I had a feeling that it was worth a try to check on this! Cause this was just a little too convenient for him to come out of nowhere and suddenly want to run against you as a (R)! He would just try to take votes away from you!

Actually, that is what opponents in a primary always try to do. As for Dunn's timing, he beat Orly's filing by a country mile, but this little distortion of history is SOP for Birfers.

Again, has anyone ever seen any evidence that Orly is registered as a Republican or even as a voter? None of us has seen any such evidence so far. This may be the mere technicality on which the parties conspire to keep her off the ballot. Or maybe she has not yet filed a formal complaint against Dunn because somebody pointed out to her that she is truly ineligible to run for SoS. I don't think that dual citizenship would disqualify a candidate, but a dual citizenship of Molovan/Israeli certainly would.



To my knowledge, no one has been able to find any record of her voting or being registered to vote. Nor any record that she is a naturalized American citizen. Of course the absence of evidence is not evidence, but she did state during one of her recent "interviews" that she "became American citizen" when she married her husband. Of course, we all know that merely marrying an American is not sufficient. If she is not an American citizen, it would explain why she doesn't vote.

A good candidate to reveal all of this, of course, would be Mr. Dunn. But I think he is taking the approach of ignoring her altogether.

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Posted on DOF is this letter purported sent by Orly to the Orange County Registrar (why the county? why not the SOS?):


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Attn Ms. Kay Cotton
Manager of Candidates and Voter services
Orange County Registrar of voters
1300 S. Grant Ave, Building C
Santa Ana CA 92705

03.08.10.

Via fax 714-567-7556 and certified mail


Dear Ms. Cotton,

I am a declared Republican party candidate for the position of the Secretary of State in the Republican primary 2010.

It came to my attention that my opponent, Declared Candidate Mr. Damon Dun,n was a registered Democrat for 10 years, residing in different areas: originally as a student at Stanford university and later in the Los Angeles and SanFernando Valley areas.

Mr. Dunn has moved to Orange County and changed his affiliation to Republican only in May of last year, when for the first time he voted as a Republican in the special election, which was less then required 12 months before he declared his candidacy as a Republican candidate for the position of the Secretary of State of CA. Based on all of the above Mr. Dunn should be removed from the ballot as a Republican candidate for the Secretary of State.

I am requesting an investigation of the above facts and administrative action.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/

Summary of Qualifications and Requirements for Partisan Nomination for the Offices of Secretary of State, Controller, or Treasurer June 8, 2010, Primary Election

This will bring up: SOS-controller-treasurer-2010.pdf-Adobe Reader

I. QUALIFICATIONS

Every candidate shall:

B. Satisfy the following registration requirements:

2. Not have been registered as affiliated with any other qualified political party within 12 months immediately prior to the filing of the declaration of candidacy. 8001 (a)

Sincerely

Dr. Orly Taitz, ESq



See the disconnect? Orly conflates voting in an election fewer than twelve months ago with registering to vote less than twelve months ago. It is possible, indeed probable, that Damon Dunn registered as a Republican at least three months before the May 2009 election. I suspect that this will be borne out by Ms. Cotton's "investigation."

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But does she have any evidence that he was ever registered as a Democrat? I haven't seen that ...

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2. Not have been registered as affiliated with any other qualified political party within 12 months immediately prior to the filing of the declaration of candidacy. 8001 (a)

Actually, if he registered as a Democrat 10 years ago, but has moved around and never voted until last year, would it not indicate that his voter registration had become invalid because of those moves?

When I moved from Orange County to my current address in LA County, I had to re-register. Couldn't the lapse of registration mean that he was NOT registered as affiliated with any other qualified party within 12 months immediately prior to the filing of the declaration of candidacy?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

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According to this profile, Foggy.

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But does she have any evidence that he was ever registered as a Democrat? I haven't seen that ...

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Posted on DOF is this letter purported sent by Orly to the Orange County Registrar (why the county? why not the SOS?):

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I. QUALIFICATIONS

Every candidate shall:

B. Satisfy the following registration requirements:

2. Not have been registered as affiliated with any other qualified political party within 12 months immediately prior to the filing of the declaration of candidacy. 8001 (a)

See the disconnect? Orly confuses voting in an election fewer than twelve months ago with registering to vote less than twelve months ago. It is possible, indeed probable, that Damon Dunn registered as a Republican at least three months before the May 2009 election. I suspect that this will be borne out by Ms. Cotton's "investigation."

The key here is that she's trying to cover for the fact that she previously misread the qualifications (as to registering to vote), and thought it was twelve months, when it is 3 months. Now that she has realized (or had pointed out to her) the mistake, instead of saying "never mind," she bullshits on, omitting (B)(1) from her citation and throwing smoke at all the terms "registered," voted," etc.

She is incorrigible and incapable of ever admitting a mistake.

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Can Mr. Dunn sue her for harassment or libel or something?

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Can Mr. Dunn sue her for harassment or libel or something?


IANAL, but I'd guess not. It seems there are different rules that apply when running for office.

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2. Not have been registered as affiliated with any other qualified political party within 12 months immediately prior to the filing of the declaration of candidacy. 8001 (a)

Actually, if he registered as a Democrat 10 years ago, but has moved around and never voted until last year, would it not indicate that his voter registration had become invalid because of those moves?

When I moved from Orange County to my current address in LA County, I had to re-register. Couldn't the lapse of registration mean that he was NOT registered as affiliated with any other qualified party within 12 months immediately prior to the filing of the declaration of candidacy?

Or am I misunderstanding something?

It is quite likely that Dunn's moves caused his registration to be cancelled, and therefore he wasn't a democrat within the 12 months preceding his declaration of candidacy (and thus he's eligible). (Another wrinkle is California's "inactive voter list" -- is a voter still "registered" despite being inactive? Does that count for eligibility purposes?)

The Sac Bee discovered Dunn's prior registration, and Dunn has admitted it elsewhere.

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Spencer Kornhaber at OC Weekly posts


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Orly Taitz's Claims About Damon Dunn's Eligilibity: False!

Orly Taitz seems to have a thing for raising questions about black politicians' eligibility for office. You've heard all about her discredited accusations against Obama, but you might be tickled to find that she has also been claiming that Irvine's Damon Dunn, a Republican candidate for California Secretary of State, isn't qualified to run as a Republican.

And Taitz's insinuations, as they sometimes do, sound plausible on their face. As always, though, they turn out to be based on huge inaccuracies.


Spencer lists Dunn's previous registrations in Florida which expired and became void in 2005 and notes OC voter registration records show Dunn registered as a Republican on March 17, 2009.

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While we were down at the OC Registrar's office ealier today, we met someone from the OC GOP central committee who was there to look into Taitz's allegations. Once again, it seems, Taitz has managed to pull off the feat of seeming absolutely crazy while also making people wonder if somehow, someway, she's actually right.

And once again, she's wrong.


More at the link

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"Questions are being asked" on Dunn's meetup page.

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Oh isn't it precious that a couple of Orly's cavity kreeps have showed up on Damon's page

http://www.meetup.com/WeSurroundThemOC/ ... /11594717/

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Nah! That page's nothing to do with Dunn - it's a Beckist 9/12 group.He's just going to speak to them.

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Taff (why isn't there a tongue in cheek smiley) my link was from a link on Damons Page, he is part of the 9/12 group, the Cavity Kreep has posted messages all over his site, (as well as a nice old white lady begging him to give up and give Orly a Chance.)

Here's Damon's meetup page where both Cheeto ( =)) ) and Melissa state Orly's case.

http://www.meetup.com/WeSurroundThemOC/ ... d=12729213

Never mind, I see what you are saying. Ignore the idiot English person (as is your wont) :-*

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I know it has been posted frequently on PJ that Obly isn't known to have registered to vote, but in the comments section of his article about Obly's false allegations against Dunn posted in answer to a post from Gotta Wonder Spencer replied...

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She registered in Orange County as a Repub on Oct. 11, 2005. Has been voting in elections since at least 1994.


If correct that means she must have naturalised yes/no?

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If correct that means she must have naturalised yes/no?

(To get all birfer:) It means she declared, under penalty of perjury, that she was a United States citizen. It does not necessarily mean she demonstrated her eligibility to vote (or that the registrar of voters actually investigated her eligibility).

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I know it has been posted frequently on PJ that Obly isn't known to have registered to vote, but in the comments section of his article about Obly's false allegations against Dunn posted in answer to a post from Gotta Wonder Spencer replied...

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She registered in Orange County as a Repub on Oct. 11, 2005. Has been voting in elections since at least 1994.


If correct that means she must have naturalised yes/no?


Would appear so.

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If correct that means she must have naturalised yes/no?

(To get all birfer:) It means she declared, under penalty of perjury, that she was a United States citizen. It does not necessarily mean she demonstrated her eligibility to vote (or that the registrar of voters actually investigated her eligibility).


Chalice should investigate this. After all, Orly does have a funny accent. It would demonstrate the epidemic of voter registration fraud by aliens is not limited to McHenry County, Illinois. It is a nationwide problem.

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If correct that means she must have naturalised yes/no?

(To get all birfer:) It means she declared, under penalty of perjury, that she was a United States citizen. It does not necessarily mean she demonstrated her eligibility to vote (or that the registrar of voters actually investigated her eligibility).


Thanks Bob. I had just been tracking back the suspicions aired that she had, perhaps, not naturalised based on checks by some PJers which had not discovered any previous registration or record of voting.

Obly would, of course, never tell any porkies having made a declaration under penalty of perjury. :-

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From Spencer Kornhaber's article (link provided by shrek):


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While we were down at the OC Registrar's office ealier today, we met someone from the OC GOP central committee who was there to look into Taitz's allegations. Once again, it seems, Taitz has managed to pull off the feat of seeming absolutely crazy while also making people wonder if somehow, someway, she's actually right.

And once again, she's wrong.


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(To get all birfer:) It means she declared, under penalty of perjury, that she was a United States citizen. It does not necessarily mean she demonstrated her eligibility to vote (or that the registrar of voters actually investigated her eligibility)


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Okay lissen, pull your ears back, cause this is gonna be good. I am a "legal alien" living in the US, I am a British citizen, I married a US citizen, but despite that I had to go through all sorts of US immigration hoops to be able to stay, I paid a boat load of money, I had to go through interviews, background checks, medical screenings (including an incident where the US medical system tried to kill me due to the fact that I had been innoculated against TB and yet the US immigration sytem insisted on testing me for TB which resulted in my test site arm swelling up like a fucking football and me being sick for a week cause the US medical people would not accept the fact that I was immunized for TB, and sticking me with that 7 needles thing and causing me to be sicker than a junk yard dog) I have done things the right way, I am legal (in fact I just renewed my green card for the next ten years) I want to see proof that Orly has done every single thing that I have done, I want to see proof of the interviews, the form filling, the medical tests, the screening, I WANT TO SEE IT! Cause at this point I believe that Orly thinks "marrying an American Citizen" = being an American Citizen, sorry it does not work that way. And right now after going through what I have gone through I want proof from Orly that she is actually legally allowed to be in this country because at this point all I can figure is she aint.

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Here's Damon's meetup page where both Cheeto ( =)) ) and Melissa state Orly's case.

http://www.meetup.com/WeSurroundThemOC/ ... d=12729213

Never mind, I see what you are saying. Ignore the idiot English person (as is your wont) :-*

melissa even looks insane.

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