The Question of Presidential Inability

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Post by Addie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:54 am

The Atlantic
The President Who Doesn't Understand His Own Positions

Donald Trump came out strongly against reauthorizing an intelligence bill his White House backs—the third time in a week he has been at odds with his staff and even his own stated views.

Singed by aides’ and former aides’ portrait of a president not equal to his job, Donald Trump has spent the last few days trying to demonstrate that he’s on top of things.

The results have been mixed. The president was able to garner some positive reviews for his session with congressional leaders on Tuesday—though as one of those reviewers, Peter Baker of The New York Times, acknowledged, “The bar, of course, was historically low given that Democrats and even some Republicans have been describing him as so unstable that he should be removed from office.” ...

This creates extensive challenges. Foreign leaders have long since realized Trump is a pushover who can easily be rolled in face-to-face meetings, eroding U.S. authority on the world stage. Republican leaders in Congress have desperately sought guidance from Trump on major initiatives, both to make sure he will not attack them and in the hopes that his leadership will help patch over divides within the party. The meager legislative accomplishments of this Congress speak to Trump’s inability to offer that guidance. Democrats seem fitfully interested in trying to make deals with Trump, but that’s impossible too, as Jonathan Chait wrote Wednesday: “It’s hard to make a deal with a president if the president doesn’t understand anything about the deal beyond his belief that deals are good.”

What, then, is the administration’s policy on any given question? Is it the stance that that White House lays out in background briefings, fact-sheets, and official statements? Or is it the stance that the president offers? In any ordinary administration, the answer would clearly be the president, since he’s the top official—though in any ordinary administration, such cleavages would never become public. But since nearly no one, and certainly not his own aides, takes Trump seriously on policy, his statements no longer get the presumption of authority, especially when he is liable to reverse himself two hours later. And if foreign leaders, members of Congress in both parties, and voters cannot tell what the U.S. government’s policy is, the government effectively has no policy at all.


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Re: The Question of Presidential Inability

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Post by neeneko » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:07 pm

pipistrelle wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:09 am
Since the so-called pee tape has been discussed for eons, would it be that shocking anymore? This is the guy who could shoot someone, and the supporters would still be supporters. I still don't know why, as he has the charisma of a cheese grater.
I think at this point the actual content would not be very notable, but the tapes are held up as such a high profile symbol for the dossier that if they did surface and were not one of the fake ones floating around it would be a major rebuke of the 'fake' narrative.



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:12 pm

neeneko wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:07 pm
pipistrelle wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:09 am
Since the so-called pee tape has been discussed for eons, would it be that shocking anymore? This is the guy who could shoot someone, and the supporters would still be supporters. I still don't know why, as he has the charisma of a cheese grater.

I think at this point the actual content would not be very notable,
but the tapes are held up as such a high profile symbol for the dossier that if they did surface and were not one of the fake ones floating around it would be a major rebuke of the 'fake' narrative.
...unless the prostitutes were noticeably underage.


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Re: The Question of Presidential Inability

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Post by Foggy » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Q. What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea?
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A. Trump never paid to watch a garbanzo bean.
Yeah, old joke. I still like it. :daydream:



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:17 pm

Foggy wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:49 pm
Q. What's the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chickpea?
Sekrit Stuffs!
A. Trump never paid to watch a garbanzo bean.
Yeah, old joke. I still like it. :daydream:
The Fogmeister just might have an obsession, whether with chicks, chicks peeing, or just peeing, it is difficult to discern. :confused:


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Re: The Question of Presidential Inability

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Post by Addie » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:53 am

Newsweek
Trump Meets Every Criteria For An Authoritarian Leader, Harvard Political Scientists Warn

Two political scientists from Harvard University have identified four warning signs that indicate if someone poses a dangerous authoritarian risk to a nation. No U.S. politician, at least dating back to the Civil War, has come close to ticking off all four boxes, one of the authors told Newsweek—until Donald Trump came along.

Professors Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt have authored the new book How Democracies Die, which details the warning signs Trump showed as a candidate. In a healthy democracy, they argue, those traits should have derailed his bid for the presidency. ...

"Trump was easily identifiable as someone who is not committed to the democratic rules of the game," Levitsky told Newsweek on Thursday. “There is real cause for concern for the health of our democratic institutions.”

The four markers are:
Rejecting or showing weak commitment to democratic rules.
Denying the legitimacy of political opponents.
Encouraging or tolerating violence.
A readiness to stifle or limit civil liberties of opponents, including media.


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Re: The Question of Presidential Inability

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Post by Larky K' Chamcha » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:39 am

Addie wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:53 am
Newsweek
Trump Meets Every Criteria For An Authoritarian Leader, Harvard Political Scientists Warn
:snippity:
Oh Newsweek! Or Newweek. Or Newweeks. Singulars and plurals aren't difficult. Even with irregular nouns.
/grammarnazi



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