Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Addie » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:14 am

LA Times - Kathryn Brightbill
Roy Moore's alleged pursuit of a young girl is the symptom of a larger problem in evangelical circles

We need to talk about the segment of American culture that probably doesn’t think the allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore are particularly damning, the segment that will blanch at only two accusations in the Washington Post expose: He pursued a 14-year-old-girl without first getting her parents’ permission, and he initiated sexual contact outside of marriage. That segment is evangelicalism. In that world, which Moore travels in and I grew up in, 14-year-old girls courting adult men isn’t uncommon.

I use the phrase “14-year-old girls courting adult men,” rather than “adult men courting 14-year-old girls,” for a reason: Evangelicals routinely frame these relationships in those terms. That’s how I was introduced to these relationships as a home-schooled teenager in the 1990s, and it’s the language that my friends and I would use to discuss girls we knew who were in parent-sanctioned relationships with older men. ...

Much of the sexual abuse that takes place in Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, or IFB, churches involves adult men targeting 14- to 16-year-old girls. If caught, the teenage victim may be forced to repent the “sin” of having seduced an adult man. Former IFB megachurch pastor Jack Schaap argued that he should be released from prison after being convicted of molesting a 16-year-old girl, asserting that the “aggressiveness” of his victim “inhibited [his] impulse control.” In the wake of the Schaap case, numerous other stories emerged of sexual abuse cover-ups involving teenage girls at IFB churches. In another high-profile case, pregnant 15-year-old Tina Anderson, who was raped by a church deacon twice her age, was forced to confess her “sin” to the congregation. ...

The evangelical world is overdue for a reckoning. Women raised in evangelicalism and fundamentalism have for years discussed the normalization of child sexual abuse. We’ve told our stories on social media and on our blogs and various online platforms, but until the Roy Moore story broke, mainstream American society barely paid attention. Everyone assumed this was an isolated, fringe issue. It isn’t.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Sugar Magnolia » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 am

Pretty sure Cadillac and/or Mercedes has also pulled their ads. Are these morans driving their cars over cliffs too?

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by AndyinPA » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:25 am

Estiveo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:13 am
Dear morans,

If you have a Keurig machine to smash, that means we already have your money. Smash away.

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And they will probably buy another one in the future to replace the ones they have smashed.

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Estiveo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:13 am
If you have a Keurig machine to smash, that means we already have your money. Smash away.
Keurig machines are like razors: it is really selling its units of coffee.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:52 am

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Kendra » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:58 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:52 am
Oooooh.
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Speaking of the Keurig kerfuffles, I couldn't wait until my Trump loving boss came in this morning. Wasn't sure if he was a Hannity fan or not, and if so - would he fix his regular morning joe on the company Keurig machine, or would he toss it?

Coffee won.

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by ZekeB » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:00 am

Estiveo wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:13 am
Dear morans,

If you have a Keurig machine to smash, that means we already have your money. Smash away.

Love,

The Keurig Company
PS... We win twice. Now we don't have to worry about the warranty anymore either.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Sterngard Friegen » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:05 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:52 am
Good. The flood begins. Child molesters don't just do it once and quit.

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by HilltownGrrl » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:06 am

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I've been wondering how many of the Keurig smashers woke up & realized they had no machine with which to make their morning coffee. :lol: :violin:

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Post by RVInit » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:15 am

HilltownGrrl wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:06 am
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I've been wondering how many of the Keurig smashers woke up & realized they had no machine with which to make their morning coffee. :lol: :violin:
:lol: They are going to miss the variety. They will either have to buy several bags of coffee to have a variety again, or do without the variety. I also believe they will replace their Keurigs as soon as the satisfaction of destroying their old one wears off. Or maybe there is another brand of coffee maker that allows for a variety of flavors, I think our office has one but I don't know if it's available for individuals to purchase.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Chilidog » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:20 am

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:17 am
Pretty sure Cadillac and/or Mercedes has also pulled their ads. Are these morans driving their cars over cliffs too?
Realtor.com pulled their ads as well.

Are they burning down their houses yet?

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Kendra » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:21 am

HilltownGrrl wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:06 am
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I've been wondering how many of the Keurig smashers woke up & realized they had no machine with which to make their morning coffee. :lol: :violin:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by ZekeB » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:24 am

HilltownGrrl wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:06 am
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I've been wondering how many of the Keurig smashers woke up & realized they had no machine with which to make their morning coffee. :lol: :violin:
I wonder how many didn't wake up. I wake when I hear the sounds of mine turning on and heating the water.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by TexasFilly » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:27 am

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Yeah, but you're from Texas, so.... [FYI, I lived in both states, for over a decade in each place. The only real advantage of Texas was generally better restaurants. And Molly Ivins. Your mileage may vary....]
But you don't see me complaining about SNL or other outlets making fun of Texas. That's the difference.

As for the Keurigs, I find the Hannity fans so ridiculously funny. We got our Keurings because I would habitually pause the brew and take the "first cup" and my husband would complain that it "ruined the pot." I drink two cups a day and he drinks coffee all day, so the Keurig was a great solution. I applaud the company for pulling their ads from that miscreant's show; I just hope they maintain their promise after Roy Moore gets elected in Alabama. :blink:
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Post by Dan1100 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:28 am

IIRC, it took a while for Republicans to turn against Todd Akin.

Mitch has seen the light.

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Mikedunford » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:29 am

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:05 am
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:52 am
Good. The flood begins. Child molesters don't just do it once and quit.
The accusations that will have the largest punch are going to be the ones that involve conduct that took place after he married, with women other than his wife.

Unfortunately, a Gloria Allred press event is probably not the best way to provide the information in a way that will maximize the impact on evangelical voters.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by TexasFilly » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:34 am

Agreed! But it's better than a Lisa Bloom press conference...
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by ZekeB » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:36 am

Mikedunford wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:29 am
Unfortunately, a Gloria Allred press event is probably not the best way to provide the information in a way that will maximize the impact on evangelical voters.
The pastures have three more Sundays to rant from the pulpit. Who do you think the voter will listen to? The pasture, or some use to be teen?
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Mikedunford » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:41 am

TexasFilly wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:34 am
Agreed! But it's better than a Lisa Bloom press conference...
Fair point.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Sterngard Friegen » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:48 am

Mitch McConnell says he believes the accusers. It's not going to be easy for Moore after he gets sworn in. I suspect he'll be his own caucus and not at all a reliable Republican vote unless Jeebus is smeared all over the legislation.

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by Foggy » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:04 pm

Gloria Allred announced a presser with a new underage accuser. Watch this space.
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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by qbawl » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:11 pm

Kendra wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:21 am
HilltownGrrl wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:06 am
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I've been wondering how many of the Keurig smashers woke up & realized they had no machine with which to make their morning coffee. :lol: :violin:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
And how many had to high-tail it to Wally Wurld to buy one to smash?

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by DejaMoo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:11 pm

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

Post by SLQ » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:14 pm

bob wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:38 pm
DejaMoo wrote:
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But I'm going to explain (or remind, for those who were around in those days) that things were different back then.
Moore turned 33 in 1980.
I was a teen in the early 80s, in rural America (though not the rural south). There is no way my parents would have allowed me to date a man in his 30s. No. Freaking. Way. (They didn't even like the guy I was dating who was the same age I was, although in hindsight that was for good reason.)

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