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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by RVInit » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:24 pm

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Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:33 pm
This might help Moore....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12 ... idate.html
Of course it will help them. Because Republicans will seize onto the tiniest thing and use it as a weapon to beat up a Democrat or support a Republican. The only thing she did was write the date and place underneath his signature. In no way does that change the fact that he signed her yearbook. I wouldn't even be surprised if she didn't add the "DA" next to his name. So what? Doesn't change a damn thing.


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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:27 pm

Fake news or ....
'He could be doing this still': Roy Moore sex abuse accuser twists the knife but now admits writing part of high school yearbook message she attributed to him

Beverly Young Nelson doubled down Friday on her claim that Republican U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore groped her when she was 16
But now she admits that she wrote part of a message in her high school yearbook that she and her lawyer have attributed to Moore
Nelson said she added a date and location 'note' to the bottom of the inscription, under Moore's signature
Moore's campaign continues to say he never signed it at all
Tuesday's nigh-stakes special election is being watched nationwide


By David Martosko, Us Political Editor For Dailymail.com
PUBLISHED: 17:36 GMT, 8 December 2017 | UPDATED: 17:55 GMT, 8 December 2017

One of the nine women accusing Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual misconduct doubled down Friday on her allegations, even while changing one detail of her story.

Beverly Young Nelson claims she was a 16-year-old waitress when Moore groped her and tried to force her to perform a sex act in his car.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... knife.html



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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by RVInit » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:12 pm

Wow, this is Doug Jones. A powerful presentation.



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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by Addie » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:56 pm

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Where's Roy? Days before Alabama election, Moore disappears from campaign trail

MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Near the end of a press conference for Roy Moore Thursday, a reporter asked a question: Where was Roy Moore?

“He’s campaigning,” said Ben DuPre, a longtime Moore associate and spokesman for the campaign. “He’s campaigning hard.”

If Moore is doing that, he's keeping it a secret.

In the last few days before the Dec. 12 election for Alabama’s junior U.S. Senate seat, the Republican candidate has all but vanished from the public, continuing a pattern of absence that took hold after allegations of abuse, assault, harassment and misconduct with nine women surfaced against Moore in early November.


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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:02 pm

Has he chosen to hike the Appalachian Trail shit scared of what reporters may ask him :?:



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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:02 pm

Roy is probably at a mall. Or a high school.

You know; campaigning. 14 year olds can vote can't they?



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Post by pipistrelle » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:18 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:02 pm
Has he chosen to hike the Appalachian Trail shit scared of what reporters may ask him :?:
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Post by Suranis » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:57 am

Moore is probably using the Donald Trump method. If you are not in peoples faces you cant remind people how undesirable you are. Remember Trump stopped twitting for the last month of his campaign, apart for 3 days which was immediately followed by a drop in the polls.

So yeah, vanishing and relying on the social media army is probably his best move at this point.


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Post by Clairez » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:43 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:02 pm
Roy is probably at a mall. Or a high school.

You know; campaigning. 14 year olds can vote can't they?
only if you ask their mothers for permission first! :lol:



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In the Trump era anything is true if enough people believe it.

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Post by MsDaisy » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:56 am

I confess I did not know that Moore had sided with rapists against their victims though it wouldn't't surprise me if he had. Do we know this to be true or not?



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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by Addie » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:00 am

CNN
First on CNN: Obama tells Alabama voters to reject Roy Moore

(CNN)Former President Barack Obama is adding his voice to the Alabama Senate race, imploring voters to go to the polls Tuesday to reject the candidacy of Roy Moore as part of an aggressive effort by Democrats to try and counter President Donald Trump's full-throated endorsement of the controversial Republican candidate.

"This one's serious," Obama says in the call. "You can't sit it out."

Two Democratic officials familiar with the Alabama race tell CNN that Obama recorded the phone message in recent days, at the very time Trump stepped up his own involvement in the campaign with a recorded message. Obama does not mention Moore by name. ...

Obama's message to voters -- intended to specifically reach black voters whose turnout is critical for Democratic candidate Jones -- comes on the eve of a special election that has drawn extraordinary national attention and divided the Republican Party over whether sexual allegations against Moore make him unfit for office. ...

The pre-recorded calls from Obama mark his latest return to the political stage less than a year after leaving the White House. He campaigned for Democratic gubernatorial candidates in Virginia and New Jersey, both of whom won their races last month.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:09 am

MsDaisy wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:56 am
I confess I did not know that Moore had sided with rapists against their victims though it wouldn't't surprise me if he had. Do we know this to be true or not?

In his opinions on the Alabama Supreme Court he sided with the convicted rapist at least twice. In light of what we now know his opinions are creepy. I'll look for those opinions.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:19 am

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... _case.html
The Worst Reason to Condemn Roy Moore

These revelations have spurred a new line of attack against Moore among progressives: that as the chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, he cast the sole vote in favor of a 17-year-old convicted of raping a 4-year-old. This criticism is misleading, unjust, and dangerous. The implication that Moore favored the defendant because of the judge’s own alleged history of molestation is especially absurd. Moore’s dissent was perfectly plausible, and his broader argument would still permit Alabama to imprison the rapist for years. Liberals have long criticized those who attack judges for ruling in favor of criminal defendants when the law compels them to do so. They should not adopt the strategy they have long decried because Moore himself is a monster.
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During the Senate primary, Moore’s opponent Luther Strange ran an ad attacking him for his Higdon dissent, implying that Moore wanted to spring a child rapist from prison. In fact, Moore agreed that Higdon’s conviction for first-degree sodomy could stand, ensuring he would spend years in prison. His Democratic opponent, Doug Jones, has not yet brought up the dissent.


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Post by MsDaisy » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:25 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:09 am
MsDaisy wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:56 am
I confess I did not know that Moore had sided with rapists against their victims though it wouldn't't surprise me if he had. Do we know this to be true or not?

In his opinions on the Alabama Supreme Court he sided with the convicted rapist at least twice. In light of what we now know his opinions are creepy. I'll look for those opinions.
Thanks, yes, that will be very interesting to see.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:25 am

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tims-judge
Roy Moore challenged Alabama law that protects rape victims, documents reveal
As chief justice of Alabama’s supreme court, Moore twice argued that the state’s “rape shield” law should not prevent alleged sex offenders from using certain evidence about their underage accusers’ personal lives to discredit them.

The cases were among 10 between 2013 and 2016 where Moore dissented from the court’s majority and sided with alleged offenders who were appealing to the court as part of their efforts to overturn convictions or punishments for sexual crimes.

A review by the Guardian of all decisions issued by the Alabama supreme court during Moore’s second stint found decisions on 16 criminal cases that involved alleged sexual crimes. Moore sided with the offender over state prosecutors in 13 of those cases.

On 10 occasions, this meant dissenting from the majority view of the court’s nine judges. Moore sided with the state in the other three cases.

Among Moore’s 10 dissents was the case of David Pittman, who had pleaded guilty to the rape of a 12-year-old girl. Moore in September 2015 said that Pittman ought to have been allowed to present evidence to court indicating that the girl had been sexually active and had a sexually transmitted disease.


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Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:25 am
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tims-judge

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Among Moore’s 10 dissents was the case of David Pittman, who had pleaded guilty to the rape of a 12-year-old girl. Moore in September 2015 said that Pittman ought to have been allowed to present evidence to court indicating that the girl had been sexually active and had a sexually transmitted disease.


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Post by Foggy » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:57 am

My god I'm going to be glad when this damned race is over and done with. :|


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Post by RVInit » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:03 am

There is something really strange going on when a judge who thinks the last time this country was great was when slavery was OK and then sides with an African American rapist who raped a 4 year old.


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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:08 am

MsDaisy wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:29 am
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:25 am
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... tims-judge

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Among Moore’s 10 dissents was the case of David Pittman, who had pleaded guilty to the rape of a 12-year-old girl. Moore in September 2015 said that Pittman ought to have been allowed to present evidence to court indicating that the girl had been sexually active and had a sexually transmitted disease.


:shock: :swoon:

For completeness;
Pittman pleaded guilty to second-degree rape and was sentenced to 102 months' imprisonment, split with 24 months to serve. Moore wrote in his dissenting opinion, "The facts before us indicate that Pittman filed his motion...on the admissibility of evidence of the complaining witness's sexual history to show that the complaining witness had a motive to lie about having been raped by Pittman. The first basis for Pittman's motion was to argue he was not the source of the complaining witness's sexually transmitted disease."
"Instead, it appears Pittman was unable to confront his accuser, to cross-examine the complaining witness and her parents, and potentially to discredit the complaining witness's testimony," Moore wrote.
http://www.al.com/news/montgomery/index ... lings.html



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Re: Alabama US Senate: Special Election December 12, 2017

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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:12 am

Foggy wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:57 am
My god I'm going to be glad when this damned race is over and done with. :|
Yes and no. It depends on who wins.


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