Alabama Ballot Challenge

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23555

Docket Update... McInnish|Goode v Chapman

AL - 2012-10-24 - RESPONSE TO MOTION TO DISMISS PURSUANT TO RULE 12(B)

Roboe · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:49 am

Oh well, at least they've finally dropped the pretense, that it was about all of the candidates having to prove they are eligible :roll:

Tarrant · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:05 pm **Posts:** 757

It must really tick Orly off that Arpaio/Zullo etc are willing to provide him affidavits of zero value but refuse to provide her affidavits of zero value, so she decides to photocopy his, resulting in an affidavit of less than zero value.

Which Judge Reid in Indiana might declare as wholly convincing anyway.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:53 am

Is Klayman currently under "administrative suspension" in Florida? If so, how can he practice law elsewhere?

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23555

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

Is Klayman currently under "administrative suspension" in Florida? If so, how can he practice law elsewhere?

AFAIK, as posted upthread, this is his current status... there are lotsa disciplinary actions taken against him but just sayin'...

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by realist » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:06 am

FLORIDA SANCTIONS: See http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/B ... enDocument for details

PA: He’s on “administrative suspension” – see http://www.padisciplinaryboard.org/pa_a ... &pdcount=0

OHIO: He was sanctioned in the child custody case – but I don’t have a handy link on that (but it was horrible – both what he did and how court characterized his misuse of the courts).

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9358

Why is this suit being nearly ignored? Isn't this clown Virgil Goode an actual candidate who is on the ballot some places? Wouldn't it be beneficial if Virginia birthers (where Goode is on the ballot) knew they actually had a candidate who is really on their side?

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:50 am

Mebbe. But it would be goode if Goode sucked votes from Rmoney.

Roboe · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:12 am

Goode took part in the Third Party Presidential Debate on C-SPAN, but I dont' know if he went birther there: http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Even ... 737435220/

kate520 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:31 am

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Isn't this clown Virgil Goode an actual candidate who is on the ballot some places?

Yabbut, this suit is filed by Virgin Goode...not the same guy at all! :lol:

Seriously.

bob · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:43 am

I really like how Klayman argues that SCOCA ruled that the state could remove an ineligible candidate (i.e., Cleaver). And then Klayman cites unreported court minutes.

'Cuz that how courts roll: Important rulings are tucked away in unreported minutes, not withstanding the requirement that SCOCA is required to publish all opinions. Minutes which require a archive-search request to find. The concept of putting "rulings" in "books" so others could read the law and learn is so quaint!

And does Klayman provide the court and opposing counsel with a copy of this out-of-state, unpublished "ruling"? Of course not.

esseff44 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:24 pm

Klayman's brief has many instances of lack of candor laced throughout the reply as with all his pleadings. There's all the ways he misrepresent the law and findings and then there are facts. He states that the president's father was deported. The documents I have seen that they rely on show that he left voluntarily after he was denied a visa extension. He was not deported. Klayman knows that and so do all the birthers who have scrutinized the documents. It does not make any difference as far as the generally known fact that his father was not a citizen and no one has claimed that he was. The only reason to keep saying that he was deported is for smear value.

As we have shown many times, the only purpose of this and other frivolous and futile birther cases is their political propaganda value and a vector for propagating false claims, distorted facts and misrepresentions of well-settled law. It's one thing to put it in political ads. It's another to misuse the court system.

I could not get the floridabar link above to work. Here's what I found on Klayman:

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Larry Elliot Klayman
Member in Good Standing Eligible to practice in FloridaID Number: - 246220
Address: 2020 Pennsylvania Ave NW # 345 Washington, District Of Columbia 200061811
United States Phone: 310.5950800
E-Mail: leklayman@gmail.com vCard: Download contact information Admitted: 12/07/1977

10-Year Discipline History None
Law School: Emory University School of Law
Degree: Doctor of Jurisprudence/Juris Do

bob · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:53 pm

esseff44 wrote:

I have no idea what this quote is from or what you think it means.

Obama:

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Q: One question -- as you watch voters here and just everyday interactions with people that are so undecided, so fearful of either choice -- I found people becoming even more ambivalent and even voters making statements such as it really doesn’t matter who’s President anyway because of the problems in Congress and really that’s what’s going on -- what would you say to a statement that somebody was saying, it doesn’t really matter who should be President?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, what I’d say is that it will matter to millions of Americans who may or may not have health care. It will matter to millions of seniors who maybe -- or soon-to-be seniors who may be faced with the prospect of a voucher system for Medicare.

It will matter to young people all across the country who were born here, pledged allegiance to our flag, went to school here, and are Americans in every way except they don’t have documentation and would continue to be at risk of deportation.

...it reads like Obama simply misspoke about the DREAM Act, as those born in the United States are citizens; his statement makes sense if read as "who were not born here, but ..."

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23555

A little something for your reading pleasure...

The McInnish Newsletter

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Meanwhile another would-be participant in this argument has entered the fray unbidden. :lol:

The Democratic Party of Alabama, headed by former Alabama Supreme Court Justice Mark Kennedy, has filed a motion asking the court to allow them to intervene in our case. If permitted to do so they, the Democratic fighters for Obama, would join forces with Republican Beth Chapman in opposition to our challenge. In their motion to the court, the Democrats say that"[t]he Alabama Secretary of State does not object to this motion."

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:12 pm

!	Foggy wrote:
	Posts moved; topic unlocked. Please discuss the Alabama Ballot Challenge in this thread, and the citizenship of so-called "anchor babies" in the new thread.

June bug · **Posted:** Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:14 pm

Thanks Foggy! :-*

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23555

ALABAMA BALLOT CHALLENGE??

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Docket Update...

AL 2012-10-31 - McInnish|Goode v Chapman - Plaintiffs' Motion for Status Conference

Edit: Sorry. Initially posted to wrong thread. :oops:

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10650

realist wrote:

ALABAMA BALLOT CHALLENGE??

Docket Update...

AL 2012-10-31 - McInnish|Goode v Chapman - Plaintiffs' Motion for Status Conference

No status conference needed, IMHO. Judge can and should just rule on the papers. And why is KKKlayman's Pro Hac Vice still pending?

bob · **Posted:** Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:36 am

[Posting to the Real Alabama Ballot Challenge Thread.

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TexasFilly wrote:

realist wrote:

ALABAMA BALLOT CHALLENGE??

Docket Update...

AL 2012-10-31 - McInnish|Goode v Chapman - Plaintiffs' Motion for Status Conference

No status conference needed, IMHO. Judge can and should just rule on the papers. And why is KKKlayman's Pro Hac Vice still pending?

L. Dean Johnson (who has represented McInnish in his previous birther suit) is the local attorney.

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10650

Thanks bob. I noticed there was a local attorney. I was just wondering why Klayman's PHV is pending. It's been a while.

bob · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:46 pm

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where is judge Moore? was he reinstated to the Supreme court of Al? does Al have a procedure for an Emergency writ of Mandamus?

John Black wrote:

I just saw that Judge Leroy Moore has won his seat back. Did you know this? Who knows, maybe there is one just judge that would look at all your evidence. God’s speed!

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=362209 :twisted:

Roy Moore, in fact, was elected to his old job. He wasn't "reinstated"; he'll assume office in due course.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23555

Yabbut Orly just posted not an hour ago that she was not going to file any new cases. :lol:

It's like a drug. She can't stop.

RTH10260 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:49 pm

bob wrote:

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where is judge Moore? was he reinstated to the Supreme court of Al? does Al have a procedure for an Emergency writ of Mandamus?

John Black wrote:

I just saw that Judge Leroy Moore has won his seat back. Did you know this? Who knows, maybe there is one just judge that would look at all your evidence. God’s speed!

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=362209 :twisted:

Roy Moore, in fact, was elected to his old job. He wasn't "reinstated"; he'll assume office in due course.

How long until we get some religious monuments parked on court premises once again?

Mikedunford · **Posted:** Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:57 am

Absolutely. Orly needs to get involved in Alabama now. If she hurries, and Moore is in the right mood - and FSM knows that man is probably the single judge most likely to support Orly in this country - she can file for a Write of Mandiblimius and get the certification of the Presidential election stayed in Alabama. That'll show 'em.

ZekeB · **Posted:** Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:05 am

Mikedunford wrote:

Absolutely. Orly needs to get involved in Alabama now. If she hurries, and Moore is in the right mood - and FSM knows that man is probably the single judge most likely to support Orly in this country - she can file for a Write of Mandiblimius and get the certification of the Presidential election stayed in Alabama. That'll show 'em.

She would be successful in getting a stay to stop Alabama's electoral college from voting.

Piffle · **Posted:** Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:09 am

ZekeB wrote:

She would be successful in getting a stay to stop Alabama's electoral college from voting.

Does AEC have a football team?

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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