As she points out, his Social Security number was assigned when he was a minor. Even if one assumed her stupid accusation is true and that he shouldn't have that number, all he would have to do is say this is the number on the card given to him by whichever adult. As for whether he ever used any other names, wasn't it his mother who used that name for him? I seriously doubt the government cares if you might have been called something else unofficially at age six. I really hope not, because I had this phase around that time where I insisted everyone call me Priscilla, which isn't even close to my real name. And I did insist on signing that name on my schoolwork.

Nothing she alleges warrants criminal investigation, because there would be no perpetrator one could target. He was a minor at the time the alleged crime occurred, and the adults are dead. Like some prosecutor is really going to waste money investigating whether an adult failed to disclose under oath that his family called him something else when he was six. Nobody would prosecute that and no jury would convict someone for it. Nor does it disqualify you from the presidency.

As for the social security thing, the worst that could happen even if all the nuttiness were true and his family went through the hassle of faking one rather than just using the birth certificate they had long had to get one legitimately, is that he'd take a copy of his signed birth certificate with the seal and apply for and receive a new social security number.

I do wish people could be prosecuted for illegally accessing other people's records or sometimes maybe just for being a complete and utter vindictive racist moron.

His SS# was assigned to him when he was a minor? Big hairy deal, Susan. I got my SS# when I was 14. I needed it for a summer job. What's the requirement today? I believe a parent is required to get their child a SS# within six months of birth if they wish to claim the child for income tax purposes.

It is hard to claim someone who doesn't have a Federal Identity Number...

I was 10 (1964) when I got mine. Yep, I got mine, now you get yours....

I beat you all, I got mine when I was 48. And I actually had to prove that I was not engaging in identity theft by applying in person and with a lot of historical documents to prove that I am fava and not just some guy trying to claim to be fava. What a pita that was since nowhere did the ssa explain the requirements until I actually arrived at the wicket with my (insuffecient) documentation in hand.

Forgot your Kenyan BCert???? Bummer Dude!

In its FOAD letter, the prosecutor explained that Daniels failed to demonstrate that Obama's social security number was someone else's, i.e., that this number belonged to someone else and Obama is using it, which is the crux of an identity-theft crime.

Her second letter fails to remedy this deficiency.

Interesting that we have educated (somewhat anyway) adults who cannot understand what they read.

Those idiots just don't see the obvious: President Obama, at 15, stole the SSN of someone who'd just applied for it to start getting Social Security benefits, at age 87, because he knew Bill Ayers later in life.

Duh.

Susan has a big deadline coming up today or tomorrow. Anyone think she'll meet it?

docket update.
http://www.co.geauga.oh.us/common_pleas ... n=67920065

They gave her (some) money back? WTF?

*Probably* relates to this entry.



Just a WAG, but it's possible Susan planned to appeal and paid a down payment or the complete estimated fee to the reporter for a transcript. There's no indication an NoA was filed, so it is possible the down payment was refunded.

ORYR: Court Transcript Doctored: Obama Social Security Number Investigators Formal Complaints:

Daniels' judicial grievance, and the FOAD response.

Daniels' nastygram to the SECR, complaint to court reporter's association, and its FOAD letter.

Nb.: ORYR somehow omits that Daniels' complaints were dismissed.

Daniels is dumber than dirt.

She wrote the state accrediting agency for SECR's, and was told the transcriptionist she's complaining about isn't even a SECR.

You'd think she'd check on stuff like that before making a stupid hullaballoo.

They also told her she may be able to request a digital file to double-check the transcript against. No sign from Daniels that she registered that bit of advice, or that she is looking into it.

She's a mean, stupid lady, blinded by hate.

My Mom and I were the BOTG for the hearing. The judge was fully prepared, unfailingly polite and infinitely patient with her. She is full of

Patience is wasted on these nuts. If they're going to bellyache and bitch and lie up a storm anyway, they might as well have a boot in their ass to give them a reason to cry.

Oh noze, cannons!! They're bringing in the artillery!

I got mine the same year (1964) for some reason my mom got all of our SS# when I was 5. I'm the oldest, my brother was 4 and my sister was 2. I didn't use it until 1975. When I was surprised to find that she already had it. I wasn't for the IRS because they didn't start asking for kids' SS# until the '80s and by that time all of us were over 18 and not being claimed.

since all SS funds are tracked by your SSN and using the wrong number won't work, how do birthers view that, what is their stated purpose for a using a fake SSN. In her answer to that, Orly said "if you are not a citizen, your SSN will state that and will state that you are not eligible to work in the U.S." All those green card holders that work disagree with her silly comment. Reality trumps Orly
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My daddy used to call me Princess Petunia Paddleforth and Cordelia Frozenfootsie (due to a regrettable habit of running outside barefoot even when there was snow on the ground) and I've never reported those names as an adult. I guess I'm in trouble for having aliases.

And just FYI re Ohio SECRs... http://www.cleveland.com/business/index ... ainst.html

I also know there was a task force formed in OH in 2007 to report to the SCOOH on certification of SECRs. I know the report was issued. I have no idea whether certification/licensing was ever instituted there and am too lazy to look right now.

Do SECRs make mistakes/errors? Certainly, just as members of any other profession do. If there was a complaint would a SECR generally correct an obvious error? Absolutely. Would they just make up shit and put in a transcript simply because someone says "I know I said this and X said that"? Absolutely not.

Coffee... need more coffee.

Realist!

Thank you for the corrections/clarifications.... I was a bit lazy myself, it appears.

I certainly should have written "She wrote what she thought was the state accrediting agency for SECR's,..."

And we also know it would make no difference if she DID acquire a tape/CD of the audio -- she would just as quickly claim IT had been scrubbed... and for what? The parts she's claiming are missing are pointless, immaterial...........

I can change your username, Princess Petunia.

Thanks for the offer, Foggy, but I'm used to Magdalen now.

I just hope that if I'm ever writing to non-Fogbowzers about Court Reporters, I remember NOT to abbreviate it "SECR" I'd hate to have to explain that - LOL!!