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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:45 pm 
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kimba wrote:
I wrote this over at Doc's and thought I'd cross-post it here.

In my opinion talk of "building bridges" and "undemonification" simply emboldens these fools. They are wrong about President Obama and the law. They need to be told that truth over and over and over again, not encouraged by critiquing their ridiculous drafts of court filings. You're empowering them. I think it's wrong.


I'm through bieng nice to these dipshits. At this stage they are deliberately lying and/or deluded. Sop I'm gonna call them liars and deluded. And scumbags.

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kimba wrote:
I wrote this over at Doc's and thought I'd cross-post it here.

In my opinion talk of "building bridges" and "undemonification" simply emboldens these fools. They are wrong about President Obama and the law. They need to be told that truth over and over and over again, not encouraged by critiquing their ridiculous drafts of court filings. You're empowering them. I think it's wrong.


I'm through bieng nice to these dipshits. At this stage they are deliberately lying and/or deluded. So I'm gonna call them liars and deluded. And scumbags.


That seems too nice to me, but to each their own. ;;)

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OK, to move the discussion on Collette's case back here I will post this link to a short blog article I wrote today. I added a great comment from Tes that she left at obamaconspiracy.org about the show.

http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... o-6192012/

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I was otherwise engaged during the live show last night but had a chance to listen today. Just a few comments.

First, Collette claimed during the show that under Florida law, negligence per se applies where – the specific example he used was when a person runs a red light and then crashes into someone causing injury. Per Collette, running the red light – a violation of law – creates negligence per se.

As with nearly every aspect of law upon which he relies, Collette is flat out wrong. Under Florida law, as clearly stated in the Florida Standard Civil Jury Instructions – which, by the way, are promulgated by the Florida Supreme Court, violation of a traffic statute does *not* constitute negligence per se.

Under Florida law, “it is ‘negligence per se’ to violate a penal statute or ordinance, not regulating traffic, which was enacted to protect a particular class of persons from a particular injury or type of injury.”

In other words – Collette’s example is expressly EXCLUDED from the rule. See http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/civ_ ... /400/401(8).rtf . Not only is the example Collette provided expressly excluded, but — more importantly – the claim set forth in his FAC is excluded.

Collette’s FAC alleges “negligence per se” based on alleged violation of the Constitution.
However, the Constitution is not a “penal statute”; nor was it enacted to protected a “particular class of persons form a particular injury or type of injury.”

To Doc C’s comment that courts generally don’t go after pro se litigants – I’ll just not that this is not always the case – especially in situations where the litigant has some legal experience. Sanctions would be well-founded in connection with this claim – even when brought by a pro se litigant.

To be sure – were the plaintiff some uneducated non-Mensa member who had never been to court before, the courts can be more lenient. However, Collette – a self-professed member of Mensa and a paralegal with lots of litigation experience – has no such excuse. He’s brilliant, and experienced.

Defendants would be well within their rights to ask for sanctions in light of such a frivolous claim. The court also would be well within its discretion in imposing sanctions sua sponte.

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Excellent! Thanks, R/C.


Tes, I understand you are a busy woman, but I do hope you will find a bit of time to post every now and again here.

We all get it.

A lot of life goes on outside of Birfistan.

But I sure do miss your posts.

And, even if they aren't as frequent as they were, I'd be ever so grateful if you'd post every now and again.

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I'm through bieng nice to these dipshits. At this stage they are deliberately lying and/or deluded. Sop I'm gonna call them liars and deluded. And scumbags.


The last simply deluded intelligent (meaning IQ above 85) birfer left the field when the second newspaper advertisement was found. Leaving liars, scumbags and yes, a number of racist morons.

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lyssandri wrote:

When I get really frustrated, I have to remind myself that the right to go to court IS a Constitutional right, and that taking that right away from someone - or even severely limiting it - is an extraordinary measure and can't be something we take or do lightly. Doesn't always help much, but it helps some... :)


Oh I agree completely.

But when it's being done as a political 'dirty trick', as some have admitted to, I have no qualms whatsoever if the courts limit their access.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What Tes wrote.

Collette wrongly -- pigheadedly -- insisted that negligence per se does not require violation of a penal statute as the predicate act. Mr. Not-So-Gifted Legal Mind failed to do his research.

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Statutes and ordinances are categorized in three groups to determine the standards to apply when there is a violation of the statute.   These categories come under the general headings of strict liability, negligence per se, and evidence of negligence.   See deJesus v. Seaboard Coast Line R.R., 281 So.2d 198 (Fla. 1973).  

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In Newsome v. Haffner, 710 So.2d 184, 186 (Fla. 1st DCA), review denied, 722 So.2d 193 (Fla. 1998), the First District held that “a cause of action in negligence per se is created when a penal statute is designed to protect a class of persons, of which the plaintiff is a member, against a particular type of harm.”

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A statute or ordinance in the evidence of negligence category applies to the general public.   See Grand Union Co. v. Rocker, 454 So.2d 14 (Fla. 3d DCA 1984).  


Eckelbarger v. Frank, 732 So.2d 433, 435-36 (Fla. 2d DCA 1999)

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According to information provided to me, the below is Collette's final version of his
supplemental brief and is on its way to the court. So...

FL - COLLETTE - SUPPLEMENTAL BRIEF IN OPPOSITION TO MOTIONS TO DISMISS

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An example of Cargo Cult litigation. The guy has no idea what he's doing. It's certainly bears little resemblance to legal argument. He's cherry picking words and phrases that he likes but has no idea how to apply them to the facts of his case.

If this guy was ever a paralegal all I can say is pathetic.

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An example of Cargo Cult litigation. The guy has no idea what he's doing. It's certainly bears little resemblance to legal argument. He's cherry picking words and phrases that he likes but has no idea how to apply them to the facts of his case.

If this guy was ever a paralegal all I can say is pathetic.


Lots a cites, but no meat.

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Collette's spelling is excellent!

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
An example of Cargo Cult litigation. The guy has no idea what he's doing. It's certainly bears little resemblance to legal argument.

But...but...seriously, Stern, didn't you notice Collete's impressive cite to Corpus Juris Secundum? And surely you know who loved to reference C.J.S., don't you?

Why cite to the Restatement of Torts when it's easier to use a legal encyclopedia? :D

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Collette's spelling is excellent!


Compared to Orly, there are cats whose spelling of English is excellent.

That does not mean Collette writes excellent English, even good English might be exaggerated.

"Courts need to be alert to adjust their views about torts so as to be able grant relief where necessary." Note that every word is spelled correctly, but I would not call it a correct sentence.

IANAL, but I did think the remark "Courts now recognize a right to be free from bad faith prosecutions.” er, rather ironical in view of what the nutter is doing himself.

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So, let's suppose that Collette is right and that negligence per se does not need to be based on violation of a criminal statute.

Suppose that a person could allege negligence per se for violation of a provision of the U.S. Constitution. Then suppose that Jerry's encyclopedia of law stuff does indeed support the proposition in the supplement that:

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… negligence per se is a violation of any other statute which establishes a duty to take precautions to protect a particular class of persons from a particular injury or type of injury. See 65 C.J.S. Negligence § 19(3).


Then what to make of this paragraph in Jerry's complaint?

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Neither the U.S. Constitution, nor any federal statute enacted thereunder, provide for a procedure to assure that Presidents of the United States and candidates for said office meet the Eligibility Requirements.


Jerry has specifically pleaded that the US Constitution does not impose a duty on anyone to take any precautions to protect anyone from any injury.

"Poof" goes the negligence per se.

Eh, not that there wasn't a whole lot of other stuff wrong too. Also.

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raicha... that's all covered cuz it's implied. ;)

Collette sez so.

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It's a simple reading test.

Opining on the underpinnings of his proposition, Paraprofessor Jerry wrote:
Article I, Section 21, Florida Constitution (1968), expressly provides:"

Access to courts.

— The courts shall be open to every person for redress of any injury, and justice shall be administered without sale, denial or delay."

So justice shall be administered without delay, right? Dunno about you, Paraprofessor Jerry, but the way I look at it, that means that your case should be dismissed post haste. Doesn't the defendant also have a right to swift justice?

Hint: The word "denial", as used here, refers to the denial of justice -- not denial of every injury that can be imagined or hallucinated.

You appear to be in denial about the plain meaning of your central quote.

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Poor Sam is going to have a sad this November. :-({|=

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Hmm, now if only the plaintiff would claim this debacle has cost the President $650,000 there might be an interesting award of sanctions against the plaintiff in the offing.

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giftedlegalmind.com! :lol:

Did you see his "Shortcomings" page?
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Jerry's a big picture visionary. In the process of writing you a groundbreaking legal memorandum, don't be surprised if he misses a comma somewhere or leaves out a parallel citation. You could probably even find a few minor grammar and/or spelling errors in this website. Jerry freely admits that there are many, many, far, far better legal secretaries than he.
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Now THERE'S a humble and honest guy!
Boy, I'll say. Not to mention that he's a charlatan who, according to his own website, is actively engaged in the unauthorized practice of law (UPL) in Florida.

When I first read about his DIY ballot challenge kit and his own pro se eligibility suit, I thought he might be operating just within the lawful borders. But then I read the extraordinary claims at this link. Amazing!

First, there's the problem of offering services as a "paralegal" when he appears to be unsupervised by a Florida attorney. (See Florida UPL Rules here)

Secondly, his own puffery strips away most of the defenses against a UPL charge (a third-degree felony in Florida). Arguably, there may be a narrow window in Florida for "document preparers" who do little more than fill in the blanks on forms or, perhaps, help a person with language or physical difficulties. But Jerry claims to do much, much more than that! He's a legal genius, after all.

In Florida, giving legal advice and performing services which require legal skill and a knowledge of the law greater than that possessed by the average citizen constitutes UPL. State ex rel. The Florida Bar v. Sperry, 140 So. 2d 587, 591 (Fla. 1962). According to Jerry, there's no question that he passes that test with flying colors.
Jerry wrote:
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Lots of people can write pleadings, motions, and briefs. Few can cut through the nonsense and highlight the core, pivotal issues as well as Jerry can. Jerry also writes contracts and web content.

Gee Jerry, "writing contracts" sounds like more than filling-in-the-blanks to me.

Another criterion sometimes used to distinguish illegal UPL from "friendly advice between friends" is whether the practitioner is "in the business" and charges fees. Again, Jerry leaves no doubts:
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Jerry shouldn't cost you a dime. In most cases, whatever you pay Jerry should be more than offset by what you would have otherwise spent on attorneys fees, and give you a net savings. Payments can be per hour, per diem, per project, partial contingency, or blended. Jerry's pretty flexible, and can usually structure a win-win compensation arrangement.

If you ask me, this guy's just begging for someone to file a UPL complaint -- if only to prove that his gifted legal mind can find a loophole.

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Along the lines of Piffle's post, above, this one on the website struck me:
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"In one afternoon, Jerry renegotiated two contracts for us, saving us over $50,000, and negotiated payment from a customer that had owed us $30,000 for over six months. Jerry has an incredible skill in legal matters and I would highly recommend him to anyone."

—Norio Kushi, Former President, Macrobiotic Company of America. Full Testimonial.

In California such conduct would constitute the practice of law if it does not meet certain exceptions (e.g., a real estate broker or agent negotiating a real estate purchase and sale agreement, a licensed talent agent negotiating a certain kind of personal services contract, etc.).

Was Mr. Collette performing his services under the supervision of a licensed attorney?

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