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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:36 pm 
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Mentioned in another thread, but have now acquired clean copies of the Affidavit-Complaint and Response.

I believe the hearing is today at 3:00 p.m. Pacific

WA - Jordan - 2012-08-27 - Jordan Affidavit-Complaint

WA - Jordan - 2012-08-28 - SOS Response Memorandum

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Thanks to JR for posting and to whoever supplied these. =D>

I think SCRIBD has actually done something right in the latest makeover. :o I can scroll fairly smoothly again.

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Reality Check wrote:
Thanks to JR for posting and to whoever supplied these. =D>

I think SCRIBD has actually done something right in the latest makeover. :o I can scroll fairly smoothly again.


It took some searching to find clean filed copies, as they are not yet available on the public docket for download, but that would be moi. :D

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realist wrote:
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Thanks to JR for posting and to whoever supplied these. =D>

I think SCRIBD has actually done something right in the latest makeover. :o I can scroll fairly smoothly again.


It took some searching to find clean filed copies, as they are not yet available on the public docket for download, but that would be moi. :D


Very nice. I will try to be at the hearing this afternoon. It will be tight on time, but I will do my best shot.

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Very nice. I will try to be at the hearing this afternoon. It will be tight on time, but I will do my best shot.
Hope you get there on time, SueDB.

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Just when all these birfot challenges begin to look the same, along comes a clear winner in the densest footnotes per page category. With 64 footnotes, this beauty is mighty impressive.

Ms. Jordan's doc linked to above is supposedly an affidavit in support of a motion for order to show cause. Is there another doc bringing a motion or is this the whole so-called lawsuit?

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Piffle wrote:
SueDB wrote:
Very nice. I will try to be at the hearing this afternoon. It will be tight on time, but I will do my best shot.
Hope you get there on time, SueDB.

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Just when all these birfot challenges begin to look the same, along comes a clear winner in the densest footnotes per page category. With 64 footnotes, this beauty is mighty impressive.

Ms. Jordan's doc linked to above is supposedly an affidavit in support of a motion for order to show cause. Is there another doc bringing a motion or is this the whole so-called lawsuit?


Those are all that have been linked on the many sites a story to the challenge appears.

As of a couple of hours ago the case was not available on the public docket, so I have no idea whether that's the whole enchilada or not, but I suspect it is. Just sayin'.

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realist wrote:
Mentioned in another thread, but have now acquired clean copies of the Affidavit-Complaint and Response.

I believe the hearing is today at 3:00 p.m. Pacific

WA - Jordan - 2012-08-27 - Jordan Affidavit-Complaint

WA - Jordan - 2012-08-28 - SOS Response Memorandum


Love the AG's response: Keyes v. Bowen!!!; Ankeny!!! Wrotnoski!!! Justice v Fuddy!!!

Nothing like birther precedent to sink a birther. :lol:

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Piffle wrote:
Ms. Jordan's doc linked to above is supposedly an affidavit in support of a motion for order to show cause. Is there another doc bringing a motion or is this the whole so-called lawsuit?


Silly me. I was taught in law school that an affidavit is testimony based on first-hand knowledge. IOW, the affiant acquired personal knowledge via perception from one of her five senses -- sight, sound, feel, taste or smell. Additionally, an affidavit is subject o the rules of evidence, thus any statement that would be inadmissible if the affiant is sitting in the witness chair will be disregarded by the judge (who can spot hearsay when he/she is presented with hearsay).

Linda Jordan does not have first-hand, personal knowledge about anything she "testifies" to in this affidavit. It is a worthless POS containing nothing but inadmissible speculation and hearsay.

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Silly me. I was taught in law school that an affidavit is testimony based on first-hand knowledge. IOW, the affiant acquired personal knowledge via perception from one of her five senses -- sight, sound, feel, taste or smell.

If you look real carefully, she says she got her first-hand knowledge by seriously studying up on things. (It's near the beginning, somewhere above the first set of footnotes.) So it seems she acquired that first-hand knowledge via her sixth and seventh senses -- reading and blogging. :D

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Piffle wrote:
Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
Silly me. I was taught in law school that an affidavit is testimony based on first-hand knowledge. IOW, the affiant acquired personal knowledge via perception from one of her five senses -- sight, sound, feel, taste or smell.

If you look real carefully, she says she got her first-hand knowledge by seriously studying up on things. (It's near the beginning, somewhere above the first set of footnotes.) So it seems she acquired that first-hand knowledge via her sixth and seventh senses -- reading and blogging. :D


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Judge McPhee - DISMISSED with Prejudice
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SueDB wrote:
Judge McPhee - DISMISSED with Prejudice
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:-bd

Another SHOCKING decision. :lol:

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SueDB wrote:
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I'm shocked! :shock:

Well done, SueDB. Will look forward to your report.

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Hahahaha =))

Comedy gold.

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Sweet, Sue! :lol:

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Add McPhee to the REEKO action. There are still some Does left!

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Judge's decision sent to our friends for posting with the famous watermark. The final order will be posted whenever the county gets around to putting it up.

It is a beauty - Rhodes vs MacDonald is prominent among various other quotations. Alice in Wonderland anyone???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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My narrative...IANALBIRTF... I am not a shorthand taker, so please bear with me...

I got there about 2:55 PM PDT. The courtroom was really quiet with the clerk, court reporter, Mr. Jeffery T. Evan Deputy Soliciter General at the defense table, Linda Jordan and other older lady sitting at the plaintiff's desk. First of all Mr. Evan was in a very nice dark suit with very shiney shoes, white shirt and a nice purple gold mix striped tie, and an Attorney General's Office pin in his lapel. He was balding with a very nice professional short cut around the sides. He looked like a real lawyer. Next was Linda Jordan. A very tall woman with a build commensurate with her height, wearing a very conservative dark suit (between midi and maxi length), dark colored shoes, hair colored golden brown put up in the back with 2 brown clips and 2 inch roots of grey in the front. She wasn't fat, but I could see her being an imposing figure in some situations. The second woman was much short (5' 7 or so), older wearing a grey suit and dark grey kinda mulie shoes without a back. I hope Mimi is reading...

We stared off with Judge McPhee stating that he was going to reach a final determination today based on the arguments, documents, and merits. He asked why there wasn't an order to show cause presented. Ms Jordan was at bat first and seemed a little nervous. She stated that she had one ready to go but couldn't file it due to the short notice. She objected to a document that was presented to everyone this morning from the DNC Mr. Hamlin (sp) declaring that Mr. Obama was the Provisional Candidate. She stated that the convention hasn't been held yet, so this document shouldn't be entered. (don't have copy of letter dated 24Jul12). She also stated that she was going to let her paperwork do most of her talking - the written complaint speaks for itself. Then she brough up the forged BC. (I almost broke out laughing) She was relying on the daffydavids she submitted from America's Sheriff and some dude that hasn't been employed sinced 87. Some more of the usual birfer talking points. Then the Mr. Evan was up. States the document is necessary as it gives the SOS the authority to print ballots under the MOVE program where they have to get the ballots to the military folks overseas at least 45 days prior to an election. The SOS can't wait for the convention results, as the Provisional nominating paper would the various county auditors to print the ballots. Since neither party had challengers to their front runners the SOS is authorized to use the information for ballots with the understanding that if there is a change, then the SOS will have to take responsibilty for his/her action. He address the forged BC issue by stating the BC in not a requirement for nomination in this state and the SOS doesn't have the responsibilty to ask. Mr. Evan stated that the parties themselves are expected to screen their candidates subject to challenge from Congress to THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE. The state didn't need to go into the BC as it doesn't matter. Mr. Evan also said that his paperwork would do the talking. The judge had no questions for either one. Next was Ms. Jordan's rebuttal. She asked why the SOS and the AG waited until this morning to spring the provisional nomination on everyone. The letter was dated 24 July 2012. The judge asked her why did she wait so long to file. Ms. Jordan cited a Washington law concerning timing of challenges. She whined about the President placing his BC on the website and how it was a forgery. Mr. Evan had no more comments. The judge prefaced his ruling with a statement about researching the laws, regulations, and cited court cases which took him a day and a half. He commented on his 2 ways of issuing a decision - where he is all prepped with a decision just waiting for the court arguments to change his mind and the second way is not have time to prepare and would take the matter under advisment. He stated that since this matter is very time sensitive, he will render a decision today which included the letter from the DNC as "important evidence" since he was satisfied on one aspect. He then stated that he was ready to read his decision (see scribd). Read decision from verbatum. He then asked for a final order from Mr. Evan who promptly provided one. Judge McPhee stated that the case was dismissed with prejudice. He said that copies of the decision would be provided to all parties plus any intersted folks (me).

Addenum: While leaving, the older lady in the grey suit asked me what my interest was. She was very nice, and I replied that I was just an interested party. Ms. Jordan asked the court reporter for a copy of the transcript. I believe the CR stated about $150.00. Ms. Jordan indicated that she would like to order one.

All of this took 45 minutes. The Fogbow was represented again.

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Judge to Ms. Jordan - It boiled down to "Don't let the gate hit you on the brain on the way out". A paraphrase sure, but that is what I got out of the whole thing. Judge McPhee looked most of the time like he as annoyed that Ms. Jordan was wasting his and the court's time with crap that has already been decided in the last 5 YEARS. Hoping for some kinda sanction, but still with prejudice will do.

Edit: remove callous reference to callouses and spelling it right for a change.

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Thank you SueDB for taking the time to attend! Great report! :-*

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Thanks. SueDB. for the report and for being the boots on the ground.

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2012-08-29 - WA - Jordan v Sos - Court's Opinion and Decision

H/T to SueDB

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SMACKDOWN!!!!

Not only to Jordan but to all steenkin' birthers, including Orly. \:D/

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Yay! I lurves it when we have boots on the ground.

While I have no opinion about women with calluses on their heels, I get the gist of the case: A good old fashion birfer smackdown!

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Oh big time...Judge McPhee seemed kinda shall we say - annoyed when he was reading his decision - especially the part about the Birfers trying to redo the last 5 years of losses.

Orly Taitz came back to bite Ms Jordan hard right on the ass. Rhodes vs MacDonald, Bowen vs Keyes etc.

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Had to have a fashion report although I'm not a fashion maven obviously.

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