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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:56 pm 
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Placeholder for discussion and posting documents as soon as we have them.

Now on the docket but I don't have the docs yet.

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In the SUPERIOR COURT
Fulton County, Georgia
Case No. 2012CV211527

CARL SWENSON VS. BARACK OBAMA

Filed on 02/15/2012
Case Type: JUDICIAL REVIEW
Judge: Henry M. Newkirk
Current Status: Filed

Defendant
Defendant Attorneys
Obama, Barack

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Swensson, Carl Hatfield, John Mark
201 Albany Avenue
Waycross, GA 31501

Events and Orders of the Court
02/15/2012 CASE INITIATION FORM
02/15/2012 PLAINTIFF'S ORIGINAL PETITION

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I should point out that Swensson's appeal is separate from Powell's' on the docket, and that Swensson is assigned a different judge than Powell, and both of them are different than the judge assigned to Orly's "appeal."

Having not seen the pleadings of either Swensson or Powell, I do not know whether they are identical or not so I'm going to make a placeholder thread for Powell and edit the title of this thread to remove Powell.

If the end up consolidated or all four end up consolidated, I'll make adjustments to the threads at that time.

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Seriously? All four appeals, even home-turf attorney Hatfield's, have been filed against 'Defendant Barack Obama'?

NO ONE named the Secretary of State?? Not even as a secondary party?

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Well, we'll know for sure when we get all the pleadings.

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Also. Too. According to the Uniform Rules...

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(aa) When practical, all actions involving substantially the same parties, subject
matter, or the same factual issues, whether pending simultaneously or not, shall be
assigned to the same Judge.
Whenever such action is refiled or derivative or
companion action is filed or refiled, such action shall be assigned to the Judge to whom
the original action was or is assigned. Generally, such actions will be assigned to the
Judge to whom the action with the lower case number is or was assigned
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(bb) Counsel shall, [color=#FF0000]at the time of filing any civil action[/color], inform the Clerk of the
fact that the case filed is related to any action under the definition contained in
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Loren wrote:
Seriously? All four appeals, even home-turf attorney Hatfield's, have been filed against 'Defendant Barack Obama'?

NO ONE named the Secretary of State?? Not even as a secondary party?


Actually, it looks like Orly attempted to name the SoS. Either that or she's decided that Obama is the SoS.

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Actually, it looks like Orly attempted to name the SoS. Either that or she's decided that Obama is the SoS.


Beat me to it! (I was searching for the response). Also, since she was the first to file, SHE doesn't have to mention the other parties!
Stopped clock, and all that ....

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Mikedunford wrote:
Loren wrote:
Seriously? All four appeals, even home-turf attorney Hatfield's, have been filed against 'Defendant Barack Obama'?

NO ONE named the Secretary of State?? Not even as a secondary party?


Actually, it looks like Orly attempted to name the SoS. Either that or she's decided that Obama is the SoS.


Which Secretary of State did she name?


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Mikedunford wrote:
Actually, it looks like Orly attempted to name the SoS. Either that or she's decided that Obama is the SoS.


Which Secretary of State did she name?


The caption reads, and I quote:

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BARACK OBAMA,
SECRETARY OF STATE
Respondent.

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Sheesh. With all the Barack Obamas that Neil Sankey managed to discover, just by the law of averages you know one of them has to be a Secretary of State somewhere ... :roll:

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Sheesh. With all the Barack Obamas that Neil Sankey managed to discover, just by the law of averages you know one of them has to be a Secretary of State somewhere ... :roll:


Yes, but Which One??? Is Orly being deliberately vague for some legal reason???

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Foggy wrote:
Sheesh. With all the Barack Obamas that Neil Sankey managed to discover, just by the law of averages you know one of them has to be a Secretary of State somewhere ... :roll:


Offtopic :
The other day while researching something else I stumbled across one of Sankey's other Obamas (not Barack but another B) in an old 1990's court filing.

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SueDB wrote:
Foggy wrote:
Sheesh. With all the Barack Obamas that Neil Sankey managed to discover, just by the law of averages you know one of them has to be a Secretary of State somewhere ... :roll:


Yes, but Which One??? Is Orly being deliberately vague for some legal reason???


Well, she's legally insane and legally incompetent.

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Isn't this discission about SoS technically off topic?

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Reality Check wrote:
Offtopic :
Isn't this discission about SoS technically off topic?


OK.

So the real question here is this: Does Jablonski ask for costs, or does he request more punative sanctions against Hatfield?


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Swensson v Obama, Petition for Judicial Review

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Reality Check wrote:
Offtopic :
Isn't this discission about SoS technically off topic?
Don't think so, myself. We're discussing the fact that none of the plaintiffs correctly named the defendant, and it got a little jokey there for a minute.

This is the Swensson thread, and Swensson only named the president as defendant (or "respondent"). That's going to cause delay, at the very least. Also, filing separate lawsuits for Swensson and Powell will likely cause some additional delay, and in fact, all four cases should be in front of the same judge.

  • Court tells Hatfield: You must name the SoS.

  • Hatfield names and serves the SoS.

  • Court also tells Hatfield in the Powell case, Irion in the Welden case, and Orly in the Farrar case: You must name the SoS.

  • If the SoS isn't already very acutely aware of these cases (which I believe they are), they'll soon know that there are four cases that should all be in front of the same judge.

The primary is March 6. Today is Feb. 16.

Tick tock.

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Also at Jack's...

Swensson v Obama - Petition for Judicial Review

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Just kidding but Farrar was the the only one who even mentioned a SoS, not sure which one though. :lol:

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Foggy wrote:
The primary is March 6. Today is Feb. 16.

Tick tock.

Orly's naming of the President as sole defendant is natural for her. After all, this is not a ballot challenge but a criminal proceeding that will result in the President "at least" going to jail.

The other two stooges, who in spite of not testifying in the middle of their closings, still equally lost along side of Orly against that empty chair. I do wonder though if their lack of naming the SoS is more to keep their cases "alive" in the purgatory of appeals longer and not incompetence. After all the birfers are foolish enough to believe that if the appeals are still ongoing past March 6 that somehow the courts will decide, even though they lack a tardis, that they have some sekrit power to um, do something in relation to this case which results in the President being arrested.

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I have some legal procedure questions, that I don't want to put out in the open, so to speak.

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Swensson's and Powell's appeals petitions look extremely similar; why file two? (Did someone's check to Hatfield initially not clear?)

Hint for Hatfield: There's a fancy legal word for when you raise an argument (i.e., Obama's birthplace) for the first time on appeal review:
Forfeited.

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We have submitted our Appeal and have been given a Docket number. Are you ready for round II? Four Plaintiffs getting four different Judges. Odds are getting better we'll find at least one willing to deal with the issue.., maybe???? Still, the first and best fight remains right here in GA.

Did Swensson and Powell intentionally split their case in an effort to judge shop?

(Related cases, yadda yadda.)

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We have submitted our Appeal and have been given a Docket number. Are you ready for round II? Four Plaintiffs getting four different Judges. Odds are getting better we'll find at least one willing to deal with the issue.., maybe???? Still, the first and best fight remains right here in GA.

Did Swensson and Powell intentionally split their case in an effort to judge shop?

(Related cases, yadda yadda.)


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Rule 3.2. Companion and Related Actions
When practical, all actions involving substantially the same parties, or substantially the same subject matter, or substantially the same factual issues, whether pending simultaneously or not, shall be assigned to the same judge. Whenever such action is refiled, or a derivative or companion action is filed or refiled, or a defendant is reindicted on a previous charge, or is indicted on a subsequent charge while still under charges or serving a confinement or probated sentence on a previous action, or co defendants are indicted separately, such actions shall be assigned to the judge to whom the original action was or is assigned. Generally, such actions will be assigned to the judge to whom the action with the lower action number is assigned.


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Rule 4.8. To Notify of Related Cases
At any time an attorney is counsel in any action which the attorneyknows is or may be related to another action either previously or presently pending in and assigned to a particular judge of a superior court in the same circuit involving some or all of the same subject matter, or some or all of the same factual issues, such attorney immediately shall so advise the judges involved, who will then make an appropriate determination as to which judge the action or actions should be assigned.


I've not seen such notification, have you? Didn't think so. :evil:

http://www.georgiacourts.org/files/UNIF ... 10_10_.pdf

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From the "Petiton for Judical Review" I found the first page to be most amusing. Hatfield jumps up and down about the necessity of expediting the judicial review before March 6. However the Superior Court clerk notes on the cover page that the defendent has 30 days to respond! -xx


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