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Not to mix & match cases but here's RLG Red Steel on the Hatfield filings

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It’s a good appeal filing by Hatfield. It lays the groundwork for his future filings.

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He left out the "a". It should read, "It's a good appeal failing by Hatfield. It lays the groundwork for his future failings."


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I disagree. You can teach a dog what stayto be means, birthers not so much don't need teaching.


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...Van Irion is statute-challenged. He is allergic to legal research or subject to law library dust mite sensitivity.

Van Irion has an unusual position on what is to be found in law libraries: precedents make bad law. He would need a law library only to find that single early precedent that caused the abandonment of the Constitution and the extinguishing of the Light of Liberty. Rulz are probably even worse than precedents. He is all about "strategically challenging flawed legal precedent to restore our Constitution." He asserts
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That's interesting. So what he's saying is that even if he fails, he succeeds. Send money.

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Idunno if this was posted.

From Obama Ballot Chumps Challenges:

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John,The Georgia Superior Court tried to pull a fast one. They initially refused to file our Petition for Appeal. They claimed that our papers lacked two dollars for the two motions that were included along with our petition. We DID include the $213.50 filing fee for the petition, but they were going to sit on our documents and not file any of them, in part because of the missing $2. The Superior Court’s clerk’s office made several other excuses as to why our petition couldn’t be filed. I won’t bore you with the details. Suffice to say they tried several excuses, none of which reflect normal operating procedures for any court I’ve heard of. Each time I explained why their reason didn’t make any sense under the law or court rules, they moved on to another excuse. After being transferred, placed on hold, hung up on, and argued with, they finally agreed to file the petition, but still refused to file the motions until they got their $2. In my experience as an attorney, including being temporarily admitted in 4 states outside Tennessee, and admitted to practice at every level of Federal and State courts, this is unheard of.To top off our little story, the Georgia Superior Court didn’t contact our office to tell us that there was a problem with our filing. They just sat on our petition and emergency motion. Had we not called to verify that our petition was filed we would have missed tomorrow’s filing deadline. (This is why we call to verify filings.) The $2 was personally delivered today and the emergency motions are now filed.

One of those motions is an Emergency Motion for Stay and Preliminary Injunction prohibiting the Georgia Secretary of State from including candidate Barack Obama on the Georgia Presidential Primary ballot. Read the filing on our website. Quoting from the motion,

“should this Court incorrectly deny this motion it would confirm that the judicial branch is now unwilling to enforce the clearest and most basic requirements of the U.S. Constitution. Harm to Petitioner that would result from such incorrect refusal to grant this motion represents nothing less than the loss of our constitutional form of government for all Americans.“




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Idunno if this was posted.

From Obama Ballot Chumps Challenges:

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One of those motions is an Emergency Motion for Stay and Preliminary Injunction prohibiting the Georgia Secretary of State from including candidate Barack Obama on the Georgia Presidential Primary ballot. Read the filing on our website. Quoting from the motion,

“should this Court incorrectly deny this motion it would confirm that the judicial branch is now unwilling to enforce the clearest and most basic requirements of the U.S. Constitution. Harm to Petitioner that would result from such incorrect refusal to grant this motion represents nothing less than the loss of our constitutional form of government for all Americans.“

Oh my! How very patriotic and threaty.

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That's interesting. So what he's saying is that even if he fails, he succeeds. Send money.


What he's also saying is that courts are "corrupt" if they apply the law as it actually is, rather than as he wishes it would be. A standard sovereign citizen fantasy, and it is completely alien to our whole system of law as it came down to us from English common law.

This is not terribly surprising from someone so ignorant that he believes an administrative agency is part of the "judiciary."

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"Attorney Hatfield is going to have a field day taking apart judge Malihi and “Arkeny,” etcetera during the appeal. He’s going to lay their BS bare. LoL."


sounds like red steel's decided to keep taking the blue pill for the nonce.


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Re: Swensson/Powell/Welden/Farrar - Defendant's Request to Consolidate Cases

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Correctly, of course, no cc to Orly. Boy, will she have a mad at Mr Jablonski!

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Correctly, of course, no cc to Orly. Boy, will she have a mad at Mr Jablonski!


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Yeah, but what about Leah Los Angeles International Airport and the boy called Judy? Isn't anyone going to serve them? :lol:

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So, no motion to dismiss.

Just consolidate the cases.

I don't understand why he even did that much. :?:

Edit: We're going to have to merge four threads into one. I never did that before. I'll try to be careful. :lol:

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Correctly, of course, no cc to Orly. Boy, will she have a mad at Mr Jablonski!


Oh, I missed that. I'd forgotten she had ever been involved. :twisted:

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I sense that Team Obama will be more proactive now that they are in real court (no offense Judge Malihi). Hopefully, it will lead to a motion for costs and sanctions against the clowns.

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Foggy wrote:
So, no motion to dismiss.

Just consolidate the cases.


IMO, if there's any plan to file a motion to dismiss, it makes a lot more sense to get the cases consolidated first. That way there's only one motion and one judge; it's just a lot less paperwork if nothing else.

Plus, consolidation can probably be granted pretty quickly. Especially since it's been framed as a request, rather than as a motion. There's at least 30 days to respond to a motion to dismiss.

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So, no motion to dismiss.

Just consolidate the cases.


IMO, if there's any plan to file a motion to dismiss, it makes a lot more sense to get the cases consolidated first. That way there's only one motion and one judge; it's just a lot less paperwork if nothing else.

Plus, consolidation can probably be granted pretty quickly. Especially since it's been framed as a request, rather than as a motion. There's at least 30 days to respond to a motion to dismiss.


aka "Lining up your ducks." :lol:

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Maybe I missed the part about why ignoring them wouldn't have been a better strategy.

Or waiting till Friday to write that letter. Jablonski shouldn't be in too much hurry.

Didn't we agree he had 30 days to respond to ANY of these?

Didn't we agree that the petitions are invalid until they name the right defendant?

Didn't the Butterfly just explain to me that he was never properly served in any event?

And didn't we agree that the :lol: lawyers :lol: for the plaintiffs would have a damn difficult time advancing the case at all before the primary (two weeks from today)?

Maybe I'm confuzzled. I was hoping for crickets for a few more days, and HatfIrion starting to flip out.

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Well, you're probably right, Foggy, cuz his strategy worked out so badly last time around.

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Humph. His stategery was a work in progress till the last minute ... or so he made it seem. :lol:

I stand by what I said about the Motion to Quash, no matter how stoopid it was.

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Maybe I missed the part about why ignoring them wouldn't have been a better strategy.

Or waiting till Friday to write that letter. Jablonski shouldn't be in too much hurry.

Didn't we agree he had 30 days to respond to ANY of these?

Didn't we agree that the petitions are invalid until they name the right defendant?

Didn't the Butterfly just explain to me that he was never properly served in any event?

And didn't we agree that the :lol: lawyers :lol: for the plaintiffs would have a damn difficult time advancing the case at all before the primary (two weeks from today)?

Maybe I'm confuzzled. I was hoping for crickets for a few more days, and HatfIrion starting to flip out.


Well, that was my inclination. But as I keep trying to explain to people here.... Jablonski has a client. Jablonski's job is to advise his client as to legal options, offer his opinion as to pros & cons.... and then follow his client's instructions. Jablonski's client happens to be a Harvard Law graduate, former President of Harvard Law Review, & former Univ. of Chicago Constitutional Law professor, as well as a master political tactician, who has a whole slew of other, equally well-qualified lawyers at his disposal. So Jablonski does not have the type of client who says, "yes Mr. Jablonski, whatever you think is best....".

I posted previously that Jablonski had one obligation, and one only, after receipt of the paperwork wherein his client was improperly named as a party & improperly served via his former counsel: that was to transmit the paperwork to his client and request further instructions.

Obviously his client decided that getting all the cases consolidated early on was the best move.

I'd note that I do NOT think that the letter constitutes a formal appearance on behalf of Obama - instead he references the local rule that requires attorneys to notify the court when cases are related. Note that he specifically requests that they all be in front of Judge Wright.

Maybe Jablonski really likes Judge Wright. Maybe Mr. Jablonski & Mr. Obama were impressed with the high caliber of Judge Wright's recent order denying Ms. Taitz' phv application.

I mean... I've also posted before ... Mr. Obama knows how to catch a fly. A good legal tactician also recognizes when it is time to switch course & seize an opportunity as it arises.


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I'd note that I do NOT think that the letter constitutes a formal appearance on behalf of Obama - instead he references the local rule that requires attorneys to notify the court when cases are related. Note that he specifically requests that they all be in front of Judge Wright.

Maybe Jablonski really likes Judge Wright. Maybe Mr. Jablonski & Mr. Obama were impressed with the high caliber of Judge Wright's recent order denying Ms. Taitz' phv application.


Akshully, the GA statute sets out that if they are consolidated they should be consolidated before the court with the lowest case number (first filed/assigned)... that would be Farrar in front of Judge Wright.

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It would seem to me that consolidating the cases would lead to just one MTD rather than three.

Mootitude notwithstanding after 3-6-12.


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