Well I have to admit, I didn't think Arpaio would sign his name to a document.

Now all he has to do, given he believes there is fraud, forgery, and all these other crimes, is refer it to a prosecutor. You do know how to do that, right Sheriff? You are a Sheriff after all, I'd assume your office does these things all the time.

Of course, I'm sure you're also going to be more than willing to travel to Florida to be cross-examined over said document.

If Arpiehole get subpoenaed, he has a well-used script he can fall back on:

http://www.azfamily.com/news/Arpaio-to- ... 51213.html



That's not a hat pulled down over Joe's head ... it's his sphincter.

And yet he refuses to file charges with the AG? Is he covering up? For whom?

Is there any way to verify this?



(WND link above.)

"The judge then demanded that Obama’s attorney’s cite the authority on which they based their argument that it isn’t necessary to have two citizen parents to be a natural-born citizen"
yes, this occurred in Klayman's dream. Too bad he has to wake up.

The key line:

Anyone who thinks that a pdf, second generation copy, or picture, of a LFBC, COLB, or any other legally certified document* can be used as legal verification of anything doesn't have a clue as to how the law works.

* Does not apply to mortgage documents since courts are required to trust bankers.</snark>

I guess this is a so called selfinvalidating document to go poooof if looked at to harshly.

First question on quality: why has the CCCP not submitted such damning "evidence" to AZ prosecutors but first goes outbound?

Not that this daffydavid will ever be considered as proceedings tend to fail prior to getting to the merits.

Well, let's hope to god he doesn't give himself an enema.

Just FWIW...

quote: "Attorney Larry Klayman has announced that Sheriff Joe Arpaio has authorized an affidavit by the Cold Case Posse to support allegations of Obama document fraud..."
wnd and ballot challenge are using this for fund raising, is that surprising?

is that a sarcastic question?

Does this mean that his book would now be in public domain and he and WND lose all their precious $$$ ?

Just an FYI Docket Update in FL - COLLETTE

Problem solved: WND updated its article.

Arpaio Affidavit

Zullo Affidavit

Corsi Affidavit

Nothing terribly exciting, but Corsi's does say this:

"When did you first realize you had witnessed a felony?"

"Do you know there are penalties for failing to report to authorities a felony of which you have material knowledge?"

Also a problem with Zullo's daffydavit... shock, I know!!

At least one provably false statement of fact.

8. The Cold Case investigators further determined that the Hawaii Department of Health has engaged in what Sheriff s investigators believe is a systematic effort to hide from public inspection whatever original 1961 birth records the Hawaii Department of Health may have in their possession, including changing policies and procedures and denying valid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for information related to the 1961 birth records (said requests were not for any birth records).

This (denying valid FOIA requests) is false and, indeed, cannot be true. It cannot be true because FOIA is a federal law applicable to federal governments. FOIA does not apply to state governments. Therefore, there could never be any “valid” FOIA request for the HI DOH to deny.

In addition, HI law prevents the release of said information under whatever their public information act is.

Which just underscores the point that Corsi is not a journalist. Real journalists go to jail rather than turn over their notes to law enforcement. I'm sick and tired of lying, seditionist scumbags like Corsi and Rondeau hiding behind the facade of an honorable profession.

Nice catch. I read right over that. Of course, I'm not surprised. Just as Corsi is not a real journalist, Zullo is not a real investigator.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are they still harping on about a document of no legal importance (the LFBC)? The only document that Hawaii offers up as prima facie evidence of birth in the Aloha state is the COLB, no?

In addition, from the same paragraph 8, a subtler but instructive example of semantic bullshit-artistry:

How does that work?


For "CC investigators" to have made this determination, would require them to:

1. determine that HDoH did "x", AND
2. determine that "Sheriff's investigators" believe "x" to be "y"

If the two sets of investigators are different people (otherwise why refer to them by different titles?), this would have required CC investigators to talk to Sheriff's investigators, describe "x" to them, and get their opinion that "x" is "y".

Under this scenario, Zullo investigates his ass off, and finds out (from, say, reading an email from Corsi) that Hawaii denied requests by Does 1-15 to view the original birth record. He then goes to a "Sheriff's investigator" (say, Corsi) and tells him this, and Corsi says, "I believe that's a systematic effort to hide stuff from the public."

Of course in the real scenario, Zullo and Corsi together are both "CC investigators" and "Sheriff's investigators." So just picture the same scenario above, except with Zullo and Corsi each with one hand down the other's pants.

All this determining, investigatoring, frottage, and whatnot, and what do they come up with? The Hawaii Dept of Health, charged by law with systematically keeping vital records from being publicly divulged, has been making a systematic effort to hide vital records from the public.

Actually, the digital representations of both the LFBC and the COLB are of no legal importance. Attempts to authenticate the original source documents by analyzing the digital images is also of no legal importance.

It's not an investigation; it's a smear campaign.

Essentially AFAIK Yes. On the very bottom of the short form COLB is the authorization information citing the appropriate qualification law and is a self authenticating document (W/state seal). Self authenticating documents lawfully require no other back up as they are to be treated EXACTLY like the original would. It seems to me to be a very common thing that allows our society and economy to function.

" So just picture the same scenario above, except with Zullo and Corsi each with one hand down the other's pants."

Not enough mental floss in my cabinet for that.

Birthers are quite giddy over these affidavits, and you can see on ORYR et al when people point out that an affidavit without cross is nearly useless, they get quite upset. A usual response is "Obots are just scared!" with another common one being "It's an official police investigation, so it isn't hearsay."

Klayman is doing better than any of the other birther grifters at getting hopes up, when the court disregards the affidavits, he'll be in a better position than any to shout CORRUPTION! Send money!

And birthers will.

^^^^^THIS