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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:37 pm 
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Legal beagle KBOA has it all figured out:

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So, I’ve been going through the laws and hoping that we may have a good chance in Maryland because the actual qualifications state you must be a Natural Born Citizen. I’ve added pretty much every law that is related and I called the Board of Elections on exactly how to go about challenging someone on the ballot.
So in MD, you must petition the court for a hearing and it must be with two days after the candidates are certified by the Board of Elections. She said they certify them on January 23rd, so I would have to file, between then and the 25th, to make it in time. She said my council will have to file the petition, would Orly be willing to file a pro hac vice here, to be my council? [Excellent idea -- go with council having a proven track record. :-bd ] I really believe, that I could go in there myself [We have confidence in you, Tracy, you don't need council. We bet Obama will also be pro se.] and prove he is ineligible [This is in a real court, so here is a good hornbook on evidence.], but that might be a dumb thing to do, not knowing HOW it all works [Neither does Orly]. If she is able, I can meet her at the airport and drive to Annapolis, where the Circuit Court is located, just so you know/ So anyways, we got about a month and a half on this one [Tick tock, less than a month now], hipefully we will already have it taken care of by then!!!!!


So, she follows with a mishmash brilliant analysis of statutory provisions.

<cue intro to the Andrea Shea King Show>

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:58 pm 
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Well, we here are all familiar with Tracy's excellent research and critical thinking skills, so I'd bet if anyone can do it Tracy can. \:D/

Now off to read her mishmashanalysis of statutory provisions.

Well, having now read her analysis, I must agree, Tracy has it all laid out here from the Library of Congress...

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In 1866 while introducing bill H.R. 127 (14th Amendment) Jacob M. Howard (Author of the Citizenship clause) states:
“This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States.”
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?co ... &recNum=11
MEANING that they changed NOTHING with the 14th Amendment, only that they were declaring what was already the law.

The LAW he was referring to, was the Civil Rights Act of 1866 which states:
“Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States;”
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/recons ... sact1.html

Everyone seems to forget the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”, which is why the Law/Amendment went astray. If you look at the congressional records, while they were debating the 14th Amendment, you will find the truth and you will see that the 14th Amendment has been 100% perverted!

What exactly did “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” mean to the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment? Luckily we have Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the Thirteenth Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase:
“The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYBODY ELSE. That is what it means.”
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?co ... &recNum=14


I mean, how could anyone reading the above come to any other conclusion than Obama's a usurpin' mofo and clearly ineligible to be president, according to the Constitution.

This is HUGE!!!

Possible CHECKMATE!!

This is real Any. Day. Now. stuff.

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Free access to the Code of Maryland here.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:18 pm 
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Someone better notify HQ the jig is almost up. Might be better for the boss to just stay in Hawaii and lay low.


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Tracy has made a step up. I always wondered how she could be considered a birther, and yet prefer to spend her time investigating random people on blogs. At least now she has realized that the subject under suspicion is Obama himself. I can picture her lightbulb moment... "Ohhhhhhh! This is about the president?? Well, we better find council and read laws and stuff!"

You go, girl!

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Isn't this the same crap she's been peddling for months, trying desperately to get someone to notice her? I seem to recall YouTube videos with titles such as "Slam-dunk proof that Obama is ineligible." or something to that effect, coming out about the same time she "exposed" some Fogbowers.

Just another desperate attempt at Birther relevancy. :yawn:

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It really is slam dunk proof (CLEAR AND COMVINCING EVIDENCE) of Obama's ineligibilty 'cuz all her cources are from the Library of Congress!

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It really is slam dunk proof (CLEAR AND COMVINCING EVIDENCE) of Obama's ineligibilty 'cuz all her cources are from the LIbrary of Congress!

Hipefully.

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Whomp whomp whomp!

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BFB wrote:
Whomp whomp whomp!


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Butterfly Bilderberg wrote:
So, she follows with a mishmash brilliant analysis of statutory provisions.

<cue intro to the Andrea Shea King Show>


With a few minor tweaks & formatting enhancements, this is a brief that's good to go!

I love it. This state-by-state circle jerk of ballot challenges is putting the entire cornucopia of birfer luminaries in the limelight. It's the definitive Who's Who of birferdumb.

Hey folks, if you're a self-respecting self-deluding birther, you need to get off the stick and file your own challenge now -- with or without council.

Think about it: If you don't heed the call now, what are you going to tell your grandchildren you did in the war?

If you remember the 60s, you weren't there. If you never filed a ballot challenge, you were a plastic birther. A sunshine patriot.

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I just don't get it. What is wrong with these people?????? Don't they have lives? Or, they are just stuck on stupid. Are they all Klanners? On the WND payroll? All of the above? I just don't get it. Thank heaven for Fogbow and sanity. I haven't posted for awhile, but I visit here every day.


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Think about it: If you don't heed the call now, what are you going to tell your grandchildren you did in the war?

If you remember the 60s, you weren't there. If you never filed a ballot challenge, you were a plastic birther. A sunshine patriot.



Heed the call, birthers! Don't be a plastic birther. :((


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Could ya'll please stop spelling "council"** that way? I know, I know, we've developed a whole glossary of birferisms (like "denined" and "brunt toast") but seriously, this is starting to creep me out. [-X

**Unless, of course, you believe that Tracy is talking about consultation with a group assembled as an advisory/legislative body, as opposed to an attorney.

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Paul,

What should we use to indicate that we believe Tracy is getting advice* from her Rice Krispies?


Edit: *Counsel, that is, not from a council nor an attorney (nor even from Orly), but from her breakfast cereal.

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What should we use to indicate that we believe Tracy is getting advice* from her Rice Krispies?


Cource, please.

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Maybe we need to substitute our own sniglet. Would clownsel work?
Edit: Or would it be clowncil?

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Maybe we need to substitute our own sniglet. Would clownsel work?


:lol: :-bd

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Piffle wrote:
Maybe we need to substitute our own sniglet. Would clownsel work?


:lol: :-bd


yay!

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This Tracy Fair Dorsey is a crack investigator.

I do believe I'll sweat ... well, not a bullet ... I think I'll sweat a BB. Maybe just a spitwad ... yeah, I'll sweat a spitwad.

Here it comes. :-


Oh, did that get on you, Tracy?

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I think I'll just pass some gas instead.

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Maybe we need to substitute our own sniglet. Would clownsel work?
Edit: Or would it be clowncil?


=D>

I would think that "clownsel" would be what you get from your Rice Krispies, whereas a "clowncil" would be (for instance) a creationist school board. If you are taking advice from Orly, then you need more than a word to describe its quality...

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Tracy wants Orly Taitz to represent her -- pro hac vice -- to represent her. So no matter what you call it, as long as it reeks of buffoonery, it will be appropriate.

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Tracy wants Orly Taitz to represent her -- pro hac vice -- to represent her. So no matter what you call it, as long as it reeks of buffoonery, it will be appropriate.

Interesting for language pronunciation weenies: Is it "pro hack wee-chay" or "proh-hock-vee-chay"? Actually there's more variations than that.

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The pronunciation of “pro hac vice” seems to be a matter of dispute. Most lawyers pronounce it “pro hawk vee-chay,” “pro hack visee,” or “pro hawk veese.” According to http://www.speaklegalenglish.com, any of these are acceptable. Dictionary.com’s Legal Dictionary adds “pro hack veeka.” However, Merriam-Webster prefers the classical Latin pronunciation – “pro hawk wickeh.” Lesson: no matter how you pronounce it, someone is going to think you’re wrong.


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I'm in for "pro hack vee-chay." I also say, "hick, hike, hoke" and "kick-ero."

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