It strikes me that this information would best come from a member of the Alabama Bar, rather than one of them “outside agitators”. Just a thought, hint, hint.
Litigation is generally party-driven. The problem is that none of Orly's adversaries have bothered to oppose blatantly defective attempts to practice pro hac vice by Orly. I've never seen a competent PHV motion denied, and only once have I seen a case where the issue of a PHV application even was the subject of serious motion practice. (Religious Tech. Ctr. v. F.A.C.T.Net, Inc., 945 F. Supp. 1470 (D.C. Colo. 1996) if you're interested).
However, I think Orly's adversaries should oppose her applications. Unlike any other PHV attempts I can imagine, Orly never even minimally complies with any of the requirements. Having this crazed lunatic in a courtroom needlessly drives up costs for the other side. I can't imagine any reasonable judge turning down a motion by the other side that Orly must actually get local counsel and go through the motions. Her past flagrant history of unlicensed practice throughout the nation makes her exactly the kind of lawyer PHV rules were intended to exclude from practice.
Also, since Orly doesn't really have any clients anyway, it is not as if the choice is between Orlylaw and dealing with a crazy pro se. It is a choice between Orlylaw and the case going away.
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Litigation is generally party-driven. The problem is that none of Orly's adversaries have bothered to oppose blatantly defective attempts to practice pro hac vice by Orly. I've never seen a competent PHV motion denied, and only once have I seen a case where the issue of a PHV application even was the subject of serious motion practice. (Religious Tech. Ctr. v. F.A.C.T.Net, Inc., 945 F. Supp. 1470 (D.C. Colo. 1996) if you're interested).
Are we forgetting Mr. Berg's recent unpleasantness?
Oh, you said "serious motion practice." And "competent".
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Below please find a letter faxed to Chairman Bill Armistead, Alabama Republican Party, letting him know we are taking seriously the Constitution of the United States and the requirements for Presidential Candidates.
Harold Sorensen wrote:
As you are no doubt aware we have filed a Temporary Injunction against the Chairman of the Alabama Democratic Party to prevent him from certifying Mr. Obama for Alabama 2012 Primary Ballot Access. Yesterday, a Georgia Judge denied Obama’s Motion to Dismiss and set Trial Date. Other States have similar Obama actions now pending.
Chairman Bill Armistead we expect you to vet every Presidential Candidate to ascertain they are in fact Constitutionally qualified for Office of President of the United States. We are aware that Rick Santorum’s father, Aldo Santorum, was an Italian Immigrant and Willard Mitt Romney’s father, George W. Romney, was born in Chihuahua, Mexico. Therefore, you should obtain their Naturalization Documents to make sure they were in fact Naturalized American Citizens prior to the birth of their Children, Rick May 10, 1998 and Mitt March 12, 1947. Along with their Birth Certificates and Residency requirements this will assure that Rick and Mitt meet the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizen prior to their being Certified for Alabama 2012 Primary Ballot Access.
So as to prevent future Court Action we would appreciate your confirming the Republican Presidential Candidates have been certified as Natural Born Citizens as stated above prior to January 19, 2012.
As what if the ARP fails to comply with this demand? (Jan. 19 is the deadline for the parties to submit their candidates.)
Rick Santorum is only 13 years old??? So he's ineligible. Wow, great catch, Harold!
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When Orly goes to Alabama, we can have a duly-charged law enforcement officer check her papers. Suspicion she's an illegal alien is more than enough to detain her.
Take your passport, Idiot Orly.
You gon' need it.
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Thanks for the insight on Orly. I think I will pass it on to the defense lawyers in the case and suggest that they hold her to the pro hac vice admission rules.
Thanks for the insight on Orly. I think I will pass it on to the defense lawyers in the case and suggest that they hold her to the pro hac vice admission rules.
There's also this one, Orly's very, very first adventure into a real courtroom, a small-ish town in TX where she flew across country at the last minute to "rescue" poor Mrs. Brockhausen and end the reign of the ururpin' mofo.
You're an attorney, you can read between the lines and figger out all the lies she told.
There' a whole backstory to this episode, and it's here. You can search by Brockhausen or I "think" the thread is Orly Goes to Court or something like that.
Afterward there was a radio interview by one of Orly's minions who observed... completely different story that what really happened. I don't have the interview but there is a member here who does.
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An oldie but goodie. I love that judge. Can we move him to Hawaii tonight?
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That is one my favorite Orly transcripts.
Orly's spin:
Quote:
I wanted to thank everybody for concern and well wishes. I just got ome from TX after some 48 hours with only 3 hours of sleep.
TX judge Burt Carnes has allowed me to represent Jody Brockhausen against Secretary of State of TX, he has signed my application to represent her Pro Hac Vice (out of state attorney), but his decision was that he has no jurisdiction to hear the case in the state court.
It looked like his mind was made even before the hearing. He asked Assistant Attorney General how much time does she need, she stated 15-20 minutes, his response was that he needs only 3 minutes. He didn’t even ask the plaintiff if she needs any time. When I protested, he originally was not willing to let me talk. When I asked him to allow me to represent her pro hac vice, pro bono after I made an effort of flying and driving from CA all night long, he stated that he didn’t sign pro hca vice application, at which time I told him that there is nothing preventing him from signing it now. He finally agreed. I’ve stated that the examples given by the AJ relate to Fed Court and issues before the elections.
To the best of my knowledge there is nothing in TX law or precedents preventing a citizen from having standing and presenting a grievance and seeking resolution of violation of her civil rights in seeking verification of eligibility and legitimacy of the siting president. Judge Carnes provided no response and simply stated that there is no jurisdiction and pretty much told us to go, which we certainly did by going straight to the US attorney’s office with a criminal complaint whereby my client’s civil rights under 1st, 14 9 and 10th amendment were violated. If there is no jurisdiction in Federal court and State court, then the citizens have there civil rights de facto taken away from them and they are reduced to a level of slaves. A group of patriots and I had a meeting with Assistant US attorney Chris Peele and Chief US Attorney for the North-Western district of TX for Criminal matters, Chris Peele . Mr. Durbin agreed to hear the matter and asked for our paperwork. We were shocked to find out how little they knew about the matter. Mr. Peele told us that he was under the impression that the case was heard on the merits. They had no clue that no Obama ineligibility case was ever heard on the merits, not one judicial subpoena was ever issued and nobody has ever seen his original birth certificate.
Currently we are coordinating efforts to schedule personal meetings of groups of volunteers with Chief US attorneys for criminal matters in each and every district of the US. Mr. Ken Burr and George Lewis will be in charge of this projct.
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I love it on the second page when Taitz starts to explain why she (Taitz) was unable to get a local lawyer to support her pro hac vice: "I did not have an opportunity to. This lady is the mother of six and - - [cut off by judge]."
Taitz has been making arguments equal to that ever since.
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Back to the case at hand. I thought I would do some research on Al Hendershot to figure out what "evidence" he will (attempt to) proffer and his angle. He's quite proud of his "Harrison J. Bounel" discovery and his whacky theory that the Obamas illegally inhabit the Chicago house, have committed tax and real estate fraud, etc.
Any other ideas? Feel free to contribute your "best of" ObamaHustle links.
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Afterward there was a radio interview by one of Orly's minions who observed... completely different story that what really happened. I don't have the interview but there is a member here who does.
Not sure what member you are thinking of, but I have it.
Morgan, Ed Hale's sidekick for awhile. And here is that interview.
I love the Epectitus Series. Taken straight from the court transcripts.
Orly Taitz - "The bleach blonde bandleader of birther bombast." (2:35 mark) Epectitus: I hope I didn't neglect to thank you when this first appeared. Congratulations for a job well done.
Edit: Oops. I wasn't a member here during the Gerorgia court proceedings. I was playing in another sandbox having fun with some birthers.
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I love the Epectitus Series. Taken straight from the court transcripts.
Ready for another installment anytime.
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He was supposed to do one with Meroni at the ISBOE hearing.
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Document released from Cook County, Illinois Treasurer in response to Al Hendershot Jr. FOIA request #3209. Documentary evidence property transfer tax was paid on property the Obama's purchased and made payments on even though according to the Cook County treasurers' office "no assessment has ever been made on the property, no PIN can be absorbed into another PIN, and no property tax was made in accordance with tax laws."
I think Al is going to be embarrassed and disappointed.
Cook County Assessor’s Office confirms Obama committed real estate and tax fraud in Rezko deal ObamaRelease YourRecords on 12:05 AM
“Questions Answered for the Obama $104,500.00 “Buffer Zone, A Gift From Rita Rezko To The Trust”
“Questions Answered for the Obama “Buffer Zone” by Al the Debt Collector
This Blog post is in connection to a nearly completed article that I have been working on with Jerome Corsi, Sr. Writer for Wold Net Daily (WND) for quite some time. The article will be entitled, “Investigator claims Rezko “buffer zone” transferred to Obama’s Chicago mansion in real estate and tax fraud scheme” written by Jerrome Corsi.
He was supposed to do one with Meroni at the ISBOE hearing.
Call me an optimist, but I'm thinking that tomorrow's Aloha hearing has the potential to blossom into a wonderful candidate for the GMIB series.
Real potential.
Real.
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BamaLaw wrote:
Thanks for the insight on Orly. I think I will pass it on to the defense lawyers in the case and suggest that they hold her to the pro hac vice admission rules.
Good on ya.
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Piffle wrote:
BamaLaw wrote:
Thanks for the insight on Orly. I think I will pass it on to the defense lawyers in the case and suggest that they hold her to the pro hac vice admission rules.
Good on ya.
No, not good enough. They should question Orly's knowledge of local rules and get her to claim, as she would obviously do, that she has indeed read and studied local rules. Perhaps they should then tell the judge they would move for sanctions if that turned out to be a lie. (of course, IANAL, and it shows)
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No, not good enough. They should question Orly's knowledge of local rules and get her to claim, as she would obviously do, that she has indeed read and studied local rules. Perhaps they should then tell the judge they would move for sanctions if that turned out to be a lie. (of course, IANAL, and it shows)
Actually, they should move for sanctions if it turned out to be true. That would mean she knew what she was doing was in violation of the rules, but willfully did it anyway.
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I don't have the interview but there is a member here who does. 
Taken straight from the court transcripts.
