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Jurisdiction falls squarely on the shoulders of your office as head...

Mr. English Composition Professor gives this... an F.

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The deadline to challenge in Ga. is 11/29. I believe you have two weeks after the candidate files.

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I have searched the O.C.G.A., Title 21, Chap. 2, Art. 5 and found no authority for this challenge during the presidential preference primary. Millard's contention that in his version of the Georgia statutes places this squarely on the SOS notwithstanding, there is no provision in the Election Code that the rest of the population goes by. Section 21-2-521 provides for a mechanism to challenge the nomination of any person who is declared nominated by a primary, i.e., eligibility has to be challenged AFTER the primary. In any event, there is a specific procedure for contesting the eligibility of a candidate, and Carl has not followed it. 'Nuf sed.

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So, can this be summed up as follows: Carl is a better snitch than he is a jailhouse lawyer?

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I have searched the O.C.G.A., Title 21, Chap. 2, Art. 5 and found no authority for this challenge during the presidential preference primary.


O.C.G.A. 21-2-5 covers candidates who are certified by state executive commitees, and the Democratic Party of Georgia notified the SoS that Obam is to be the only candidate on the Democratic primary ballot. The statute also covers all candidates who file notices of candidacy, which include all Presidential candidates other than Democrats and Republicans.

I'm familiar with several challenges under OCGA 21-2-5, and they were all filed concurrent with primary elections, not general elections.

I wasn't familiar with OCGA 21-2-521, but it *does* appear that it might open a second window to a challenge. So I suppose we could see this cycle repeat in four months from now (since the deadline for filing is five days after the official consolidation of election returns).

One downside I see, however, in the latter statutory scheme is that under OCGA 21-2-529, "If the result of the primary or election is confirmed, the petition dismissed, or the prosecution fails, judgment shall be rendered against the contestant for costs." Not may render, but shall. So if Carl should refile his complaint after the primary, and lose, then he will be on the hook for all of Obama's legal expenses.

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With all due respect, Loren, I disagree that the provision applies to the presidential preference primary. Can you point to a challenge made under this section against another presidential candidate? Or are the only examples contests in the regular primary? The sections relating to the presidential preference primary are self contained within article 5, whereas section 521 falls under article 13.

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With all due respect, Loren, I disagree that the provision applies to the presidential preference primary. Can you point to a challenge made under this section against another presidential candidate? Or are the only examples contests in the regular primary? The sections relating to the presidential preference primary are self contained within article 5, whereas section 521 falls under article 13.


I don't personally know of a Presidential candidate who's been challenged before, but then I don't know of a gubernatorial candidate who's been challenged either. I do know of a U.S. House candidate who was successfully challenged before a primary election under this code section. In any case, the statute says:

"Every candidate for federal and state office who is certified by the state executive committee of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought."

Presidential candidates are candidates for federal office. Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates are certified by their respective state executive committees, and all third-party and independent Presidential candidates (including write-ins) file notices of candidacy.

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Gonna lay a little de Vattel on them, are you, Carl? It's your only chance and you are going to get the typical "this is for the courts to decide, not us" answer.

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Holy shit, Batman! Have you read The Pidge's book? That's some mighty strong crack he's smoking.

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Loren wrote:
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With all due respect, Loren, I disagree that the provision applies to the presidential preference primary. Can you point to a challenge made under this section against another presidential candidate? Or are the only examples contests in the regular primary? The sections relating to the presidential preference primary are self contained within article 5, whereas section 521 falls under article 13.


I don't personally know of a Presidential candidate who's been challenged before, but then I don't know of a gubernatorial candidate who's been challenged either. I do know of a U.S. House candidate who was successfully challenged before a primary election under this code section. In any case, the statute says:

"Every candidate for federal and state office who is certified by the state executive committee of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought."

Presidential candidates are candidates for federal office. Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates are certified by their respective state executive committees, and all third-party and independent Presidential candidates (including write-ins) file notices of candidacy.


Without giving too much away to the birthers, I don't see how Presidential candidates can come within the purview of section 521
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Sorry to be so circumspect, folks, but Loren knows the provision to which I refer.

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Holy shit, Batman! Have you read The Pidge's book? That's some mighty strong crack he's smoking.


The Obama Error? That may be just about unpronounceable in Boston.

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Holy shit, Batman! Have you read The Pidge's book? That's some mighty strong crack he's smoking.


You mean parts like the first paragraph of Chapter 2:

Pidgeon Droppings wrote:
""It appears that Barry Soetoro ("0"), whose birth name was allegedly Barack Hussein Obama II ("0"), is an illegal alien to the United States, an Ikhwan Muslim jihadist, operating under a false name, illegally funded by Saudi Arabia, an aspirant to the Muslim Brotherhood, with an agenda to overthrow the United States by means of economic jihad and to establish a new international Islamic Caliphate, who is in the employ of Giorgi Schwartz, aka George Soros, on behalf of the international banking cartel to loot the nation in their favor, so these banisters might be able to secure enough gold during the transfer to maintain their positions in the New International Caliphate they are helping to establish.""


Or this prize one:

Pidgeon Droppings wrote:
"One gets the impression that Barry Soetoro ("0") is a narcissistic, megalomaniacal, pathological lying, Masonic IlIuminist, paying homage to the Marxist-communist agenda of his alleged father"


Or:

Pidgeon Droppings wrote:
"Stanley Ann, now Anna Soetoro, took a position in Indonesia in 1967, whose responsibilities included making surveys of the political inclinations among the population of Java on behalf of the CIA and the operatives of the international banking cabal. Those that she identified as Sukarno supporters were targeted by the CIA, which provided the lists to Suharto and his foot soldiers including Lolo Soetoro.

At that time, ethnographic and cultural intelligence was used in a classified U.S. intelligence program created in 1964, called Project CAMELOT. The use of anthropologists was supported through grants laundered by the Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie Foundations. Most of Stanley Ann's activities under USAID in Java were funded by the Ford Foundation."


And that's just chapter 2......

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The Pidge uses the word "banisters"? Does he mean "banksters"?
Jooos?

I think the Pidge should stick to his expertise.

Bankruptcy law.

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I don't know how reliable this information is since it is a press release obviously written by the birfer complainant, but here's what he thinks is the status of his complaint. http://georgiavoices.blogspot.com/2011/ ... enged.html

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Obama's primary ballot challenged
Press Release Press Release Press Release

Date: November 23, 2011

The office of the Secretary of State of Georgia has accepted a filed complaint challenging the placement of Barack Obama's name on the state's primary ballot of March 6, 2011, as the Democratic Party of Georgia's presidential nominee. Secretary of State, Brian P. Kemp assigned the case to the Administrative Court for a hearing in December.

David Farrar, a resident of Cedartown, Georgia, has challenged the accuracy of Obama's two birth certificates, as well as his Article ll "natural born" Citizenship status. Pre-hearing pleadings are due into the office of Administrative Court Judge, Michael M. Malihi, no later than Dec. 1, 2011.

Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. has signed onto the case as lead counsel.


Contact David Farrar, Cedartown, Georgia
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Great. Typhoid Orly can blow more time and money, make more enemies among her fellow Republicans, marginalize birther appeasers, and Loren can see her in action.

This is a win-win for everyone.

Except the Chaleria and the Republican Party.

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I don't know how reliable this information is since it is a press release obviously written by the birfer complainant, but here's what he thinks is the status of his complaint. http://georgiavoices.blogspot.com/2011/ ... enged.html

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Obama's primary ballot challenged
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Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. has signed onto the case as lead counsel.

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I guess Orly will be operating once again pro hack visa without local backing.....


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I don't know how reliable this information is since it is a press release obviously written by the birfer complainant, but here's what he thinks is the status of his complaint. http://georgiavoices.blogspot.com/2011/ ... enged.html

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Obama's primary ballot challenged
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David Farrar, a resident of Cedartown, Georgia, has challenged the accuracy of Obama's two birth certificates, as well as his Article ll "natural born" Citizenship status. Pre-hearing pleadings are due into the office of Administrative Court Judge, Michael M. Malihi, no later than Dec. 1, 2011.

Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. has signed onto the case as lead counsel.
. . .


The lead counsel being in HI on November 30, will she have her papers ready and in court on December 1 ? Or will she properly file for a time extension? ?


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I never realized David Farrar was stupid enough to have Orly for a lawyer :shock:

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Dr. Orly Taitz Esq. has signed onto the case as lead counsel.
I guess Orly will be operating once again pro hack visa without local backing.....

Orly has perfect standing in Georgia after Judge Land went and particularized twenty freakin' thousand dollars of injury up her butt.

Plus, in Georgia now, she gets every birther's dream -- Rule 11 Discovery! 8>

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According to the GA Office of State Administrative Hearings website there is no hearing information available at this time. I'll continue to monitor.

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From ORYR... Another GA ballot challenge... this one by a Mr. Kevin R. Powell.

Another Challenge Filed Against Obama Being Placed on Georgia Primary Ballot

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 11:59 PM
Subject: Formal Complaint


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Dear Mr. Kemp,

As the Secretary of State for the Great State of Georgia in accordance with the Constitution of the State of Georgia; you had to qualify for the position you now hold. For the record I will respectfully remind you it can be found in the State Constitution:

[...]

And just as you had to qualify for office before you could be elected, so too does the President of the United States. The qualifications for the Office of the President of the United States is in Article II of the U.S. Constitution:

[snip this is your job, you are duty bound, blah, blah, blah, John Jay letter, Minor v Happersett, etc.]

Barack Hussein Obama II has publicly admitted his father Barack Obama Sr. was a Kenyan native and a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. Barack Obama Sr. never became a U.S citizen. Therefore, Barack Hussein Obama II is not now and never can be a natural born Citizen of the United States by virtue of his recognized allegiance to a sovereign foreign nation inherited from his father precluding him from eligibility for the Office of the President of the United States. Therefore, according to Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the United States Constitution as defined in the United States Supreme Court case of Minor v. Happerset 88 U.S. 162 (1874) which set binding precedent, the Office of the President of the United States was usurped by an ineligible candidate.

Therefore I am officially filing a formal complaint as to Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility and request you remove him from the ballot.


Full complaint at link

ETA: Complaint also available at Jack's... Georgia - Primary Ballot Challenge Against Barack Obama - Powell

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Without giving too much away to the birthers, I don't see how Presidential candidates can come within the purview of section 521

Sorry to be so circumspect, folks, but Loren knows the provision to which I refer.


Yes, I think the Birthers would be wise not to hang their hat on that provision.

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Has Mr. Farrar made his actual challenge public or is there only the press release?

I've not found it if he haz, but...

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