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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:53 pm 
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Right-wing opinion makers, pundits, talk show hosts and bloggers almost invariably refer to the Ninth Circuit as the most overturned of all the federal appeal courts and discard their opinions as being overly liberal and out of the mainstream. Once again, in the reaction to the latest big decision concerning Prop 8 and the status of same-sex marriage in California, they dismiss or degrade the decision as being left wing activist judges running amuck and far from the mainstream of judicial decision making as well as the mores of 'We the People.'

At one short period, the Ninth did have have higher rate of overturns but that was quite a few years back. Since then, other circuits have had higher rates and a few of the small circuits had 100% of their decisions overturned. It must be considered that the SCOTUS reviews less than 100 decisions each term, so the sample numbers are small compared to the tens of thousands of cases the the appeals courts consider and decide each year.

I found this Media Matters research piece on the subject and it's pretty interesting. Does anyone have a more recent count on the rate of reversals?

http://mediamatters.org/research/200512150016

It's just another RW lie that should not be left to fester.

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Being reversed by the Supreme Court since the death of Earl Warren has been a badge of honor for the 9th Circuit. Since 99%+ of the decisions of the 9th Circuit don't get reviewed by the RWNJ Court, I can live with the 9th Circuit.

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The sleazy pundits couch their words by saying that the 9th is overturned more times or more often than other circuits. Well, DUH! Because the 9th is by far the largest Circuit Court of Appeals, wouldn't one expect that?

BTW, Judge Napolitano looks, thinks, acts and poops like a porcupine.

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Numerous opinionators like to refer to the Ninth as the most overturned circuit. Since it is by far the largest and handles the most decisions, is it not also the most upheld circuit? And the one with the most decisions allowed to stand w/o being taken up by the Supreme Court? Stern?

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Regarding "overturnedness": Judge Posner wrote a law review article (29 J. Legal Studies 711 (2000)) in which he examined the reversal rates for the 12 circuits (11 + DC) from 1985-1997.

For that time period, the 9th had the highest percentage (of its total docket) of summary reversals (which don't occur that often) (the 1st, 7th, and DC had none); the 9th also had highest percentage of unanimous nonsummary reversals (the 11th was the lowest); the highest percentage of nonsummary, nonunanimous reversals [the vast majority of SCOTUS cases] was the DC Circuit (11th was again the lowest). (Posner, a huge critic of the 9th, handwaives that away.)

Mind you: We're talking about the difference between a 99.88% affirmance rate (11th) and a 99.57% affirmance rate (DC).

I recall reading that SR is "the most overturned appellate judge," but I forget if that was by number of cases, percent of cases he authored, or percent of cases taken up by SCOTUS.

Edit: To not jack another thread.

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That's why I started another thread. Who is SR?

It is also interesting to look at the history of appointments and the imbalance which leans Republican and right and how long it has been that way.

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The appointment of federal judges has become viewed as a political process in the last several decades. This is especially true of U.S. Supreme Court and court of appeals appointments. These charts show the composition of the Supreme and circuit courts at the end of each four year presidential term, categorizing the judges by the presidential term during which they were nominated for their seat.

As of February 2012, most federal appeals courts still had a majority of Republican appointees, reflecting Republican dominance of the presidency in recent times; of the thirty two years between 1980 and 2012, twenty have been spent under Republican presidents. However, the party of the president who appointed a judge is not always a good indicator of that judge's judicial philosophy and place on the political spectrum.


You can find the charts here and the make up of the courts at the end of each president's term of office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_ju ... ls_summary

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esseff44 wrote:
Who is SR?

Sorry; Stephen Reinhardt, the judge who wrote the Prop. 8 decision.

With respect to the "most reversed judge" canard, in this law review article, the author wrote:
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At first it might sound plausible; one imagines a moderate judge constantly paired with, say, Judge Stephen Reinhardt, who enjoys a reputation as very liberal – a reputation supported by the data shown here[] – and whose decisions are reversed by the Supreme Court more often than most.[]

In support, the author cites this article, in which that author cited Akhil Amar:
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Amar points out that the opinions written by 9th Circuit Judge Stephen Reinhardt, who joined Judge Alfred Goodwin in the 2-1 majority Pledge decision, have "alone been reversed by the Supreme Court unanimously an unbelievable five times in a single Term."

So "five times in a single Term" becomes the judge who is "reversed by the Supreme Court more often than most."

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So "five times in a single Term" becomes the judge who is "reversed by the Supreme Court more often than most."


I see that article was from 2002 and the big reaction to the Pledge of Allegiance decision. Still the drumbeat to break up the largest court and break the influence of its perceived liberal activism.

The Reinhardt wiki bio led me to this interesting piece which connects back to Perry v. Brown. It was written after Reinhardt was assigned the case and looks ahead.

http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2010/12/hail-t ... court.html
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But there is a second sense in which Professor Kerr's observation can be understood that I think is accurate: Judge Reinhardt resolves cases under existing precedent as he believes those precedents should be read, without regard to whether five or more Justices of the Supreme Court are likely to reverse him. His view is that if the Supreme Court wants to make new bad law, that's the Supreme Court's business, but he's not going to do it for them. This attitude does indeed lead to a high reversal rate but, as he says (in public and in private), they (the Justices) can't reverse them all (his rulings). For this and other reasons, I like to think of Judge Reinhardt as the Chief Justice of the Warren Court in Exile.


Just like Stern said. Sometimes getting reversed can be a badge of honor.

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bob wrote:
I recall reading that SR is "the most overturned appellate judge," but I forget if that was by number of cases, percent of cases he authored, or percent of cases taken up by SCOTUS.


It wouldn't surprise me. It is not for nothing that some call him the Chief Justice of the Warren Court-in-Exile.

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Reinhardt's wife also catches a lot of flack. She's Ramona Ripston, who used to run the ACLU on the West Coast.

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Mike Dorf, Judge Reinhardt and Judge Kennedy's former law clerk, takes the view that the Perry decision was written narrowly so the it would be less likely to be reviewed by the SCOTUS.

http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2012/02/does-9 ... uling.html

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The Supreme Court issued grade cards for the Circuit Courts for the Oct 2011 Term. This year the 9th Circuit did not have the worst affirmation rate. That honor belongs to the activist judges of the 6th Circuit. :lol: According to SCOTUS the 9th Circuit finished in 9th place among the 13 CCA.

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•The Sixth Circuit continued its abysmal streak in the Supreme Court. Between OT08 and OT10, cases originating in the Sixth Circuit were affirmed only once in 18 attempts. All 5 cases from the Sixth Circuit were reversed during OT11.
http://www.scotusblog.com/


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Oh well, there's always next year.


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I notice that about one-third of all the cases were affirmed and two-thirds reversed. The Ninth is not far from that with 7 affirmed and 17 reversed. Most of the courts have two few cases appealed for the numbers to show much of a pattern for one-term. However, zero for five does stand out. ;)

One affirmed out of four for CA11 does not look too good either. I'm keeping this bookmarked for every time the old meme about the Ninth is brought up.

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I suspect that one of the real-world criteria that is used in deciding whether to grant cert or not is the likelihood that one or more justices think it SHOULD be reversed. Maybe what I'm trying to say is, if there's no chance a decision will be reversed, why would the court take it up? I know I'm oversimplifying. Seems to me there's a kind of built-in likelihood that any one case taken up by the court might be reversed.

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There's that ....that one or more justices think a lower court opinion has been wrongly decided or on the wrong theory or partially right and partially wrong. But it seems that the cases most likely to be taken up are those like the ACA where different Circuits have issued conflicting opinions and the issue needs to be resolved.

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