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Michele Bachmann is now a Swiss citizen?

Is this a joke of some sort? If not, they are welcome to her!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html

I wonder how her Tea Party supporters will react.


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Michele Bachmann is now a Swiss citizen?

Is this a joke of some sort? If not, they are welcome to her!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html

I wonder how her Tea Party supporters will react.


Since 1992, marrying a Swiss husband no longer entitles a woman to automatic Swiss citizenship.

According to Wikipedia, people like Bachmann need to be

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a spouse of a Swiss national who lives abroad after six years of marriage, and who has "close relations to Switzerland" i.e. travelling regularly to Switzerland, being an active member of a Swiss club abroad and having close relations to the family of the Swiss spouse


Just like drinking Belgian beer will not be sufficient for someone who was accidentally born in Belgium to claim Belgian citizenship, eating Swiss chocolate or cheese or putting two apples on your head after reading Vattel will not be enough.

And even her husband had to prove a close relationship with Switzerland:

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children of Swiss parents born abroad who were not registered at a Swiss representation abroad before their 22. birthday can be "re-naturalised" within ten years after their 22. birthday
children who have let more than ten years pass for their "re-naturalisation" can be re-naturalised, if they can prove a "close relationship with Switzerland"

Unless this is a canard, of course - but it does not look like it...

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I read an article on this yesterday (can't remember where now) but thought it funny that she's been eligible for dual citizenship ever since she married. So have the kids, some of whom are now dual citizens and IIRC the other two will be fast-tracked on their Swiss citizenship.

So all those Bachmann supporters were supporting a candidate who was eligible for dual citizenship the entire time and for many years prior.

How will they spin it? That it's just fine cuz she's still Merkun too? That she is no longer Merkun cuz you can't hold dual citizenship?

And why wasn't she fully vetted? We might have elected a president who was eligible for dual citizenship then became a Swiss citizen!! What a konstitushonal krisis that woulda been. :-

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... tizen.html

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So, does her brood/litter lose their natural born status retroactively because their parents are split in their loyalties to another nation?

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So, does her brood/litter lose their natural born status retroactively because their parents are split in their loyalties to another nation?

I suppose so. But, hey, they get access to free, universal health care now as Swiss citizens. Certain trade-offs are to be expected.

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Adrianinflorida wrote:
So, does her brood/litter lose their natural born status retroactively because their parents are split in their loyalties to another nation?


They never were natural born U.S. citizens. Their dad is Swiss. I'm certain he's very familiar with Vattel and informed Michelle and the poor little darlings long ago... sorry, you can never be prezidink. Well, not of the U.S. anyway.

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I read up on the Swiss Health System back during the HCA and reform debates. It's universal but not free. IIRC, it's a mixed public/private system where everyone has to buy insurance from a company, but the coverage is strictly regulated. It's more like a utility which everyone has to have.

So, will the Bachman's take advantage and get their coverage? Oh, wait.....they have their coverage under the coverage for Congress members.

I don't think it is unusual for Congress members to have dual citizenship but it is not something they advertise except in campaign literature going to their supporters of the same heritage. For example, I remember reading about Paul Sarbanes and his son, John, and I believe the article spoke of their being citizens of Greek. The elder Sarbanes is the top lay official in their branch of the Greek Orthodox Church.

I searched to try to find a list of dual citizens Congress members but failed to find one. Quite a large number of them are eligible it seems.

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Everyone seems to be forgetting that Vattel was ... Swiss!

Surely The Law of Nations includes an exception for Swiss citizens and their offspring. Probably written in invisible ink.


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neonzx wrote:
Adrianinflorida wrote:
So, does her brood/litter lose their natural born status retroactively because their parents are split in their loyalties to another nation?

I suppose so. But, hey, they get access to free, universal health care now as Swiss citizens. Certain trade-offs are to be expected.

WRONG!

It's mandatory insurance for all residents, not only citizens, in Switzerland. The coverage is not free, but a regular premium is payed, the poor get their premiums subsidized. On all doctors and hospital bills and on medications there is a mandatory co-payment with a yearly top on costs to b payed per person. It's universal in the sense that essentially any health hazards and accidents are covered in the mandatory part. People may opt in to extra insurance options for eg preferred doctors choice or better hospital accomodation, or for holidays outside Switzerland and the EU countries. This insurance is only available for residents, not for expats (Bachmanns will need to buy extra insurance to visit Switzerland).


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This is good news. When I was in Switzerland last year, I became aware that clock makers were facing a severe shortage of cuckoos.

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neonzx wrote:

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/47272339#47272339


I read up on the Swiss Health System back during the HCA and reform debates. It's universal but not free. IIRC, it's a mixed public/private system where everyone has to buy insurance from a company, but the coverage is strictly regulated. It's more like a utility which everyone has to have.

So, will the Bachman's take advantage and get their coverage? Oh, wait.....they have their coverage under the coverage for Congress members.

I don't think it is unusual for Congress members to have dual citizenship but it is not something they advertise except in campaign literature going to their supporters of the same heritage. For example, I remember reading about Paul Sarbanes and his son, John, and I believe the article spoke of their being citizens of Greek. The elder Sarbanes is the top lay official in their branch of the Greek Orthodox Church.


I think Bachman is the only member ofCongress to become a citizen of another country while serving in Congress. Kinda says something about her values.

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This is good news. When I was in Switzerland last year, I became aware that clock makers were facing a severe shortage of cuckoos.

And rimshots. :rimshot:

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I read an article on this yesterday (can't remember where now) but thought it funny that she's been eligible for dual citizenship ever since she married. So have the kids, some of whom are now dual citizens and IIRC the other two will be fast-tracked on their Swiss citizenship.

So all those Bachmann supporters were supporting a candidate who was eligible for dual citizenship the entire time and for many years prior.

How will they spin it? That it's just fine cuz she's still Merkun too? That she is no longer Merkun cuz you can't hold dual citizenship?

And why wasn't she fully vetted? We might have elected a president who was eligible for dual citizenship then became a Swiss citizen!! What a konstitushonal krisis that woulda been. :-

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... tizen.html



My understanding is that the two Bachmann sons are in absolutely in no hurry to become Swiss, it's that whole mandatory military service thingy.


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It's too bad they haven't enlisted/appointed in the services? Where is the patriotic fervor? Oh now could have do 2 years in the Swiss Army. They have neat knives, however....

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They're republican and can't be bothered to serve in the military anywhere. Too busy being "jerb creators" and all dontchaknow.

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So all those Bachmann supporters were supporting a candidate who was eligible for dual citizenship the entire time and for many years prior.

How will they spin it?


Over on Topix it is that she was a natural born citizen.

Doesn't matter what she did later, she was born with just one citizenship. :roll:

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It's too bad they haven't enlisted/appointed in the services? Where is the patriotic fervor? Oh now could have do 2 years in the Swiss Army. They have neat knives, however....


What's wrong with America? Don't we have enough freedom for her? Why does she hate God's America so much?

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So all those Bachmann supporters were supporting a candidate who was eligible for dual citizenship the entire time and for many years prior.

How will they spin it?


Over on Topix it is that she was a natural born citizen.

Doesn't matter what she did later, she was born with just one citizenship. :roll:


But, But, But, she just sold herself to the Devil Swiss. I don't know of any other lawmaker who could damage us as badly in National Security Matters than Michele. She openly sought Swiss Citizenship after getting herself elected to a high office of influence (snicker) in the United States. She has sold us down the EURO trail. Next will will be seeing William Tell on the Quarter...Euro..... :- =)) =))

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I'm goin off the rails on a crazy train....
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“Today I sent a letter to the Swiss Consulate requesting withdrawal of my dual Swiss citizenship, which was conferred upon me by operation of Swiss law when I married my husband in 1978,” said Bachmann in a statement.

“I took this action because I want to make it perfectly clear: I was born in America and I am a proud American citizen. I am, and always have been, 100 percent committed to our United States Constitution and the United States of America. As the daughter of an Air Force veteran, stepdaughter of an Army veteran and sister of a Navy veteran, I am proud of my allegiance to the greatest nation the world has ever known,” she added.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76175.html

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I'm goin off the rails on a crazy train....
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“Today I sent a letter to the Swiss Consulate requesting withdrawal of my dual Swiss citizenship, which was conferred upon me by operation of Swiss law when I married my husband in 1978,” said Bachmann in a statement.

“I took this action because I want to make it perfectly clear: I was born in America and I am a proud American citizen. I am, and always have been, 100 percent committed to our United States Constitution and the United States of America. As the daughter of an Air Force veteran, stepdaughter of an Army veteran and sister of a Navy veteran, I am proud of my allegiance to the greatest nation the world has ever known,” she added.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76175.html


You mean she has been a dual citizen since 1978 and no one said jack shit????


What was that act that automatically made Obama a British Citizen? Well Michele campaigned as a secret dual citizen. I wondered if she registered as a Swiss Agent with the State Department when she was elected..???

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Birtherlogic says if you are born to someone who has a foreign nationality at birth giving you dual citizenship for a time disqualifies you from being president because of divided allegiance. But it's okay if you get dual citizenship later in life through marriage or heritage of another nationality. Because if you are commander-in-chief........

Let's try that again. Michele never brings up her dual citizenship even when getting herself on the house intelligence committee and running for president,but she plays to the birfers questioning Obama's qualifications because he was born with dual citizenship which cancelled his NBC-ness. One it's out in the open, she's embarrassed by it and wants her Swiss citizenship withdrawn.

We just have to ask: What else is she hiding? :mrgreen:

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Who knows? The rest of the Swiss traitor's other personalities may also have their own nationalities.

Multicultural snob!

Hey Michele! :twoup:

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I guess there were no Swiss subsidies that the Bachman family could suck from the Government's teat take advantage of.

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