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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:54 am 
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He was demanding "one month of shelter and security" for him and his wife.


According to one of the links I posted earlier, his PayPal fund is down to only $20k yet he just spent $36k on what most people wouldn't consider to be living expenses. If he's in hiding, why is he installing a landline at such a huge expense when he can't be sure he'll be staying where he is? He and his wife are blowing through the money that is allegedly to be used for routine living expenses. :roll:

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What happens when the money runs out? Eventually folks will get tired of his lieing.

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According to this article, he demanded to be put up in a hotel for a month.


Yep, he wanted money (indirectly, but still it's compensation). From your link:

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The drama took a bizarre twist when Walters announced that Zimmerman wanted to call into the show to speak to Walters. "He wouldn't do the interview, but now he has something to say," she said, later adding, "This has been an interesting day, to say the least."

She then pointedly refused to put him on air. "Mr. Zimmerman, if you could not do the interview yesterday, I don’t think we should do a quick one today," she said. "In the future if you feel differently, we will consider it.”


Sounds like a wildly out of control client Mr. O'Mara has there. I'm still appalled the judge let him out on bail after the perjury at the first bail hearing. And mostly, I feel so sorry for Trayvon's parents. It's bad enough that they are now the parents of a murdered child. This circus has to compound their grief and anxiety.

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He was demanding "one month of shelter and security" for him and his wife.


According to one of the links I posted earlier, his PayPal fund is down to only $20k yet he just spent $36k on what most people wouldn't consider to be living expenses. If he's in hiding, why is he installing a landline at such a huge expense when he can't be sure he'll be staying where he is? He and his wife are blowing through the money that is allegedly to be used for routine living expenses. :roll:



Where has all the money gone? In just 18 days, The Zimmermans spent $36,000.

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George Zimmerman’s donation money isn’t going entirely to his defense fund. Zimmerman allegedly spent $36,000 on personal bills in 18 days, The Boston Herald reports.

Using funds from his first website, which generated over $200,000, Zimmerman was able to spend $6,500 on Internet and phone bills, pay a $800 gas bill, buy him and his wife new Verizon cell phones at $300 each, pay a year-long Verizon contract in full, install a telephone landline for $2,500 and buy a two-year AT&T Wi-Fi contracts for $1,300, according to court records obtained by the Boston Herald. Almost $11,000 just on phone and internet!

With supporter funds, Zimmerman reportedly spent nearly $7,000 to pay off existing credit card bills, $4,378 to make payments of two car loans, in addition to renting another vehicle for more than $1,500.

It doesn’t stop there.

Zimmerman repaid a $3,000 loan to his parent, $800 at the jail commissary, $600 on jailhouse calling cards, $1,300 on food, $400 on utilities and $1,900 on rent. $800 at the jail commissary ...in 18 days?! Good lord.

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Zimmerman’s financial woes appeared believable as his family stated they were putting up their house for him to make bail.


$1,300 on food for 18 days? Seriously?! Folks are not going to be happy with Zimmerman after hearing about this. And when did it start costing $2,500 to have a landline installed?

I'm trying to get the article from The Boston Herald, but their site isn't loading.


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“I started a defense fund to help pay my living expenses, to help with legal expenses, and help with security expenses as needed,” he wrote. “I have had no other means of generating income for five months let alone pay the enormous expenses surrounding this case.”

Mark O’Mara, defense attorney for Zimmerman, said his hourly salary is $400 per hour.

“Given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding this case, we have now realized that it is much larger than we ever thought regarding its extent and cost,” he said. “We have been in hiding in temporary housing, and our security needs have been extremely high. The fund has been devastated by the need to pay $100,000 to a bondsman and almost $50,000 in security expenses.”

“The skyrocketing legal costs have gone unpaid,” Zimmerman wrote. “The defense fund is at its lowest point since its inception; in fact, with outstanding expenses yet unpaid, the fund is near depletion.


None of Zimmerman's legal bills have been paid. However, the Zimmermans are out of debt. K'CHING!

The Zimmermans need to find a way to live within their means. So far, they haven't.


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Jeff Deen, legal analyst for WESH-Channel 2, said it was “a weird time” to have an interview that didn’t seem necessary. Doing the interview to try to raise funds for Zimmerman was “a terrible reason to do it” and compromised the case, Deen added.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman gave his first interview to Hannity on Wednesday in Seminole County.Defense attorney Mark O’Mara said that Zimmerman did the interview to get donations from supporters.

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WOFL legal analyst Aramis Ayala saw the interview as a gift to the prosecution. “They do have a gift with a red bow on top of it to address his credibility,” she said.

WFTV-Channel 9’s Bill Sheaffer predicted that prosecutors will be prepared to cross examine Zimmerman about statements in the interview. Sheaffer added that Zimmerman’s lack of regret may hurt the shooter the most. “One may conclude from those statements that there is no remorse on the part of Mr. Zimmerman,” Sheaffer said.

On CNN, Sunny Hostin said the interview was very unusual for someone facing second-degree murder. “There’s a lot of objective evidence that, quite frankly, contradicts a lot of the things he said to the police,” she said. ‘I never think it’s a good idea for a defendant to use a strategy giving media interviews. It’s always a bad idea.”

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Zimmerman only received $1500 in donations the night of the Hannity interview! Well done, George!

The "God's will" comment did not help George's fundraising efforts. George is going to be shocked that Americans just don't want to give him anymore money. He raised $208,000 (likely more by now). Then all of his inconsistencies became public. Now he said that shooting and killing a teenager was God's will?

American's don't like this shit, George.

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What happens when the money runs out? Eventually folks will get tired of his lieing.


They already have. He only raised $1500 the night of the interview. That was the peak time for donations. He may have made a few hundred the next day, but the night of the interview is a good measure of just how interested Americans are in helping George financially. Now that the Boston Herald has the court records showing what the Zimmermans spent money on, they are going to be even less inclined to help George financially. The remaining money will be gone in 4-6 weeks. George won't get enough through his website to even pay for rent and food. The Zimmermans are screwed. Frankly, it's their own damn fault. They had a good thing going.

George is making some seriously stupid mistakes. Has he gone off his meds?

The View: cue to 3:35. Walters gives Zimmerman and O'Mara a polite FOAD on her morning show. =))

O'Mara and George's other attorneys really wanted George to do an interview with Walters. After the fiasco on Hannity, George needed to significantly repair his image. Walters refused to be his toy. Good for her. She turned George down, his lawyers grilled him over his massive fuck up and he called Walters hoping to get on air immediately.

Walters in media royalty. You don't make her fly to Florida in July, with her camera crew and then fuck with her over a hotel room.

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What is it with these folks that they have to open their mouths and repeatedly insert feet????

Is there some mental force that drives criminals like Z to talk themselves into the "chair"? (2nd deg I know)...

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Thanks! Interesting link.

Also interesting that the newly relaunched http://www.therealgeorgezimmerman.com seems to have gone dark.


It's up and he's posted his video on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J09xoHm4_-w

Has he forgotten that this crap is what led to his first defense team quitting the case?

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Asked why Zimmerman would risk doing a national television interview while facing criminal charges that carry a maximum life sentence, O’Mara said, “This is a decision made by George to get his story out” and, he hoped, would raise money for his defense fund.

But Fox News never mentioned the websites that link to the defense fund donation page, and only about $1,500 trickled into the fund overnight. That compares to about $60,000 raised on the day the defense fund got its first mentions on Fox News in April.

“My understanding is it was going to be spoken about” during the hour-long Sean Hannity show, O’Mara said, adding there was “disappointment” the site was not referenced.


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I'm trying to get the article from The Boston Herald, but their site isn't loading.

Try http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2 ... hones.html


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Yesterday, GlobalGrind posted an article claiming that Hannity offered to pay Zimmerman’s legal fees; a spokesperson for Fox News told TVNewser Hannity has never offered to pay “any legal fees or any fee associated with George Zimmerman.”

FoxNews doesn't pay for interviews. Sometimes they will "buy" photos. For example, ABC "bought" photos from Casey Anthony but it abandoned that practice after the negative reaction it got to buying photos of Caylee from Casey.

What Sean Hannity does with his personal money might be another story.


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I'm trying to get the article from The Boston Herald, but their site isn't loading.

Try http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2 ... hones.html


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Donations spiked when Zimmerman was arrested, and swelled again earlier this month, when the judge raised his bond to $1 million. Over the next three days, O’Mara said the fund grew by $36,000.


So, Zimmerman has raised over $240,000. He now has $20,000 and hasn't paid his legal team at all.

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LM K wrote:
Emma wrote:
LM K wrote:

I'm trying to get the article from The Boston Herald, but their site isn't loading.

Try http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2 ... hones.html


:-*

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Donations spiked when Zimmerman was arrested, and swelled again earlier this month, when the judge raised his bond to $1 million. Over the next three days, O’Mara said the fund grew by $36,000.


So, Zimmerman has raised over $240,000. He now has $20,000 and hasn't paid his legal team at all.



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I've looked at this site for other cases and found it to be very interesting in pointing out inaccuracies & inconsistencies. The latest one I've read was about the Hannity interview with Zimmerman. The phrase about him being coached jumps out as it was mentioned in a few other articles I've read. I can only hope the people on the jury are as intelligent as the person who operates this site.

http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2012/07/my- ... an-on.html

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"I am sorry that being black in America is still not as safe as it should be.
It's not. 

But the children will move the ball farther downfield. 

We've seen so much change in our lifetimes. Rikker and I are friends, close friends, something that would never have been possible when the two of us were growing up. I'd have taken MY life in my hands, if I'd befriended him in those days. You know the name they'd call me ... 

But the children don't know about all that. They only know what they see TODAY, and they'll move the ball farther.

My son Alex just met a new black kid, who was next door with his buddy Daniel. You can't say the children don't see black and brown skin. Of course they do. Their eyes work just fine. They see color, just like we all see color.

But my sons, I honestly and sincerely believe, NEVER think there might be anything "different" about another kid, based on the color of his or her skin.

I know that's not universal, but it's moving in the right direction. My son Willy and I went to a beach camp for three days a year or so ago with about 200 of his schoolmates, and there was another group at the camp, all white kids. The other group made some remarks about our school's kids, which are a rainbow of people if there ever was one. 

The grownups, the other chaperones and teachers, were horribly upset. The kids didn't give a shit. They couldn't even understand that they were being criticized for having a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds. OK, actually they understood it and they thought it was FUNNY. 

We're gonna get there, sooner or later. I might not live to see it, but racism WILL DIE."

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I am a newby making my way through threads.  When I got to this thread...

This brings back all the painful, agonizing and sickening feelings I had when the story first appeared , and the deepening feeling of helplessness I felt as the story evolved.  I too had "the conversation" with my mixed-race son at the age of eleven or twelve.  If you have never had to have that conversation with your child, consider yourself lucky.  Few things can be as painful as saying to your child that they better be careful and behave differently because they are black.   That it is possible they may be singled out, that if they are in a group where someone else behaves badly...guess who will be remembered?  Yes Son...you.  

A middle school guidance counselor, responding to my sons' complaint that kids taunted him in the hallways calling him and Oreo, said, "Well, maybe that's because you act that way.". (Yes, this was Florida).  When I had a meeting with her about this she unapologetically explained that "sometimes we have to require that children be responsible for their behavior".  

I always had hope that racism would die as newer generations evolved but now feel that it will always lurk as long ignorance and hatred are passed from parent to child.  I rejected the racism practiced by my family, my ENTIRE family.  A slow death is not soon enough, but better than never.

My son is 32 now.  He served honorably in the military with the UN Peacekeeping Forces in Kosovo, goes to college where he is an honor student while working full time.  He is careful where he goes, chooses friends wisely and knows the appropriate behavior when stopped by LEO's which is not infrequent; he lives in a predominantly white area...in Florida.

Don't under estimate the amount of racism bubbling just beneath the surface in the US of A. The case of the murder of Trayvon Martin, and just as important, the election of Barack Obama show us just how thin that surface layer is.  How deep the current of racism goes, we can't know.


One final thought...Had the Zimmerman been black, and Martin been white, I have no doubt black Zimmerman would have been arrested and the case been allowed to make its way through the legal system.  The hideous problem with the Stand Your Ground law is that it allows too much discretion at the hands of preliminary law enforcement officers (yes, which include district attorneys). 

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Actually, I wrote that, not majorbabs. :D But she liked it, too. We'll share credit. :hug:

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One final thought...Had the Zimmerman been black, and Martin been white, I have no doubt black Zimmerman would have been arrested and the case been allowed to make its way through the legal system.

Sad to say, I agree. What made it worse for our friend rikker was, his son's girlfriend (who was the sister of the young black witness the cops ignored) was told by all her white friends that she should take Zimmermann's side, because she "wasn't really black". Rikker, by dint of hard work and intelligence, lives in a very nice neighborhood and most of his children's friends are white. They all thought they'd moved beyond race, too. Until this happened.

But that young lady got a whole lot blacker in a very short period of time, after being told that by her friends. Rikker said he could see the transformation, and the fire behind her eyes, and I believe him.

All we can do is keep moving forward.

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I love the way my own children never saw color. We moved from a predominantly white neighborhood in Southern New Jersey to a mixed neighborhood in a gated, golf course community on the east side of Orlando. We were having a home built so we ended up renting for 8 months prior to moving into our new home. The guy we rented from said to me as he handed me the keys, "I couldn't tell you this prior to the rental agreement being signed but I apologize for not letting you know more about the street and the families that live here. At least your new home will be ready soon and you'll hopefully have a less mixed street to live on." I really wasn't following him but I saw his mouth drop open as my two older boys came out of our new home with their newly-found friends who were black. He said, "Oops, a little too late for the warning." I asked him what his concern was and he said, "they're black". I looked at him, straight in the eyes, and said, "I worry more about having biased people like you living near me who are clearly uneducated if the only reason they are concerned about neighbors is due to the color of their skin." Needless to say, we were not friendly with our temporary (thankfully) landlord, but our oldest son and his new friend are good friends to this day and are godfathers to each other's first child. My son never thought twice about his new friend being black nor did his father and I. Yes, our children and their children will rid this country of its racism. There will always be underlying pockets of uneducated, trashy people who will raise their children to despise others due to their skin color or religion but I truly believe they will diminish with each new generation.

BTW, I love your quote and still remember the day after the election that showed the gunshops overwhelmed with consumers fighting to buy as many guns as they could, worried that President-elect Obama was "gonna take their guns" and yet it never happened. What happens when the new election rolls around, they find another reason to try to scare the whackjobs about their guns being taken and it works again! Don't they remember what their former idiot-in-Chief told them, "fool me once, shame on...me, you, fool me twice, can't get fooled again". Yes, he fucked up the saying completely but they fell for their scare tactics, AGAIN! Despite Dubya's "warning".

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Actually, I wrote that, not majorbabs. :D But she liked it, too. We'll share credit. :hug:

Whoops...kudos to you for the post. Says much and is drilled deep. As a post script, my son is appalled at the fact that I cling to
the anger, while he has, as he says, moved on. I.e. I'm still angry and he's beyond it all...so to speak.

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Majorbabs - I, too, am an optimist at heart, and I choose to believe that the goodness of humanity will overcome these petty misconceptions that have so ruled our world. But we have to be vigilant (as we are in the anti-birther movement), lest the racism grow wild instead of gradually being snuffed out.

In my family, it only took two generations to all but eradicate the racism that my grandfather had ingrained in his kids' heads all of their lives. Though there are one or two exceptions of his 14 grandkids, as a family we are still evolving in the right direction.

My mother's father was such a bigot that he once had his pool drained and acid-washed after I and my brothers and my best friend (who was black) went for a swim at the grandparents' house in San Marino, California (when we were under 10 years old, in the late '60's or early '70's). I was not told about the acid-wash, or that there was a great falling out between Mom and Grandpa for a long time after that. All I knew is that Kevin was my best friend and I just couldn't understand why my grandfather rushed to pull his Poodle out of the huge pool just when Kevin got in. Or why he screamed at Mom and - indignant though in tears - she loaded us all into the car. I did not know just how white, indeed, was the city of San Marino at the time.

And throughout their retirement, my grandparents would tell me to "come by anytime! Bring your friends!" As college student, I did exactly that. "Grandma - I'm on a 50-mile bike ride with some of my teammates - can we come over for lunch?" "Sure, we'd love to see you!" So we rode from Newport Beach into the hills of Laguna Niguel, and my grandparents had what could have been their very first interracial sit-down meal - with me and one Mexican American, one Asian American, and one Jewish American. Of course, neither of them said anything directly, until sometime later when my grandfather grilled me on their backgrounds and then counseled me to "find some good American friends." I was 23 years old.

On election night, 2008, I was on my third-floor balcony in central Phoenix, looking out at the Hollywood searchlights that crisscrossed the night sky, emanating from John McCain's putative "victory party" at the Biltmore a couple of miles away. I was on the phone with my mother. We were discussing racism (bawling our heads off in joy), and she pointed out that the civil rights movement of the '60's took a generation or two to have this significant effect, but that the newest American voters had made the election of our first black president a reality. Thus, we needed make sure they carry this torch carefully and resolutely, that the progress would continue to snowball.

Right after that, at around 8:05 p.m., MST, a couple of minutes after the election was officially called for Barack Obama, the McCain searchlights were turned off for good.

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The hideous problem with the Stand Your Ground law is that it allows too much discretion at the hands of preliminary law enforcement officers (yes, which include district attorneys). 

It is my understanding based upon my time working in the legal field that district attorneys (also referred to as state attorneys in some jurisdictions) can decline to prosecute cases based upon assessment of the case.  In other words, "I don't think we can win this case..."' or, "based upon my interpretation of the law we can't proceed with a prosecution..."Their assessment is based upon Probably Cause Affidavits and witness/victim interviews. And often personal biases or political aspirations.  

Adding this on the end of a process where LEO's are given discretion to either arrest and detain, or arrest and release a suspect,  we have a system which allows rapid evaluation and judgment without colorblind justice.  

Had it not been for exposure and a national outcry, we would not be seeing this a rightly work through the criminal justice system.  

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Patagoniagirl, I haven't had a chance to welcome you, so:

:hug: Welcome!!! :hug:

Your signature is awesome!

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Every time I think humanity can't sink any lower, :o now we have a website from George Zimmerman's parents asking for money to help with their living expenses and upcoming moving expenses. They were estranged from their son for several years prior to the shooting, now they want to pretend they're the "Christian Family of the Year" complete with all these self-serving details about all the things they allegedly did to help their community when the children were little. This is apparently where George learned to be so giving and why he gave so selflessly of his time.

This selfish, disgusting family actually has the nerve to complain, "Life as we had known it ended on February 26, 2012. I
will be greatly relieved when the true facts concerning February 26th are brought to light. However, nothing can ever return
us to the family we were just a few short months ago. What Gladys and I have planned and worked for our entire life now will never be." :sick:

Not a word as to any compassion for the Martin family, only a bunch of self-serving bullshit regarding how difficult life is for them and how tough it is having deal with the after effects of February 26, 2012. What a piece of shit this guy is to write this, just another stab in the heart to Trayvon's family. It was Robert Zimmerman's punk son who is lying about that night. There is no way in hell he was hit with more than a dozen punches in the face and nose, nor was his head repeatedly smashed against the sidewalk. I heard his brother whining about how GZ would have been wearing diapers and been fed via a feeding tube for the rest of his life if he had "let TM get away with one more punch". He also stated his brother said he was losing consciousness. Yet, we're supposed to believe the EMT's just calmly let him go :roll: according to the police statement. Never would that happen, not without GZ having to sign a statement that he was refusing further care. We know GZ went to his family physician the day after the shooting because when he went into work, he was told he needed medical clearance in order to work. I wonder what the story was that he told to his co-workers, whatever it is, it's just ANOTHER version of the previous night's events. Whatever it may be, I doubt it will correlate with his earlier version or any of the later stories. I guess we could just label them as Fairy Tale #1 through #6, or are we up to #7? :^o At the rate he's going, nobody can keep track although I'm hoping the prosecution is doing a damn good job.

I think I'm going to use one of my throw-away email addresses and leave the Zimmermans' a message, just to remind them that there was an innocent young life taken that night and it was their son who shot him. http://WWW.RobertandGladys.com want to hear from their readers. I'll be happy :evil: to let them know how I feel.

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Jocelyn...I agree with you. I felt badly for Jeffrey Dahmers' parents. They were seemingly decent people who raised a son who ended up being horrifically mentally ill. They never - so far as I know- tried to capitalize on the tragedy. I would have been prepared to feel some sympathy for the parents of Zimmerman but for the fact that I visited their web page. I encourage you all to visit and puke. Daddy never mentions he was a judge and might have had a hand in the lessor charges Georgie pled to during earlier brushes with crime. He mentions that Georgy's sister babysat two black kids at one time (they grew up to be productive members of society) Daddy proudly points out. I should mention that most if the males in the Zimmerman family have had massive heart attacks...meaning, what???

Not one fucking mention of regret for the death of Tryvon Martin. I have nothing but contempt for these people.

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Jocelyn...I agree with you. I felt badly for Jeffrey Dahmers' parents. They were seemingly decent people who raised a son who ended up being horrifically mentally ill. They never - so far as I know- tried to capitalize on the tragedy. I would have been prepared to feel some sympathy for the parents of Zimmerman but for the fact that I visited their web page. I encourage you all to visit and puke. Daddy never mentions he was a judge and might have had a hand in the lessor charges Georgie pled to during earlier brushes with crime. He mentions that Georgy's sister babysat two black kids at one time (they grew up to be productive members of society) Daddy proudly points out. I should mention that most if the males in the Zimmerman family have had massive heart attacks...meaning, what???

Not one fucking mention of regret for the death of Tryvon Martin. I have nothing but contempt for these people.


In speaking with some of our friends a few weeks after this situation went public, the one thing we all agreed on was that nobody could imagine going public like GZ's family did. It's one thing to privately support your child but to do so publicly in a situation like this only serves to do more damage. The only people I've heard support GZ have been on the internet or TV. I got into a debate with someone on Twitter and asked them if they were saying that it's OK to bring a gun to a fistfight or use one to settle a fistfight if you think you're on the losing end of a fistfight. He said "of course not" but insisted that TM had been on the verge of killing GZ. Yet he couldn't explain why TM had none of GZ's DNA on his hands or why neither of his fists were swollen or bruised after the dozen or so alleged punches he threw. How many men on here think they'd look like GZ did after receiving a dozen punches to the face or head, especially considering they were coming from someone on top of you, thus delivered with more force than if standing face to face. Your head is going to take all the impact because the grass or pavement is allegedly behind you according to GZ. I worked in the ER for 3 years after receiving my Bachelor's in Nursing and I saw much, much worse after only a few punches.

The entire story GZ expects us to believe is ludicrous as in he never fought back, never blocked a punch or tried to throw one, never made a single defensive move until he drew his gun from a position that should have been impossible to do so. If he could move his arm enough to get to his gun in a holster worn on his back upper hip, he should have been able to move his arm enough to block or throw a punch. I can't help but become irate at the way the victim in this situation has been trashed by so many idiots, especially when he's no longer alive to defend himself. I hope his parents are able to receive some type of justice that will provide them satisfaction when all is said and done.

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Selfish and self-centered. Now I see where George gets it.


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The entire story GZ expects us to believe is ludicrous as in he never fought back, never blocked a punch or tried to throw one, never made a single defensive move until he drew his gun from a position that should have been impossible to do so.


"I was engaged in a life-or-death battle with an unknown and probably drugged-out probable burglar, whom I followed then approached politely as a concerned citizen, and he beat on me for a while trying to kill me, I didn't fight back, and then - I remembered I had a gun on me!"

At least life without parole for this idjit. And I hope they charge him with the multiple sexual assaults on his cousin (whose life is destroyed).

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