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Postby GreatGrey » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:47 pm

Hmmm. It seems to me that the Dow has been doing pretty well the past couple of weeks, while Obama is clearly up in the polls. :-k

Clearly he sucks as a socialist.

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Postby TollandRCR » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:57 pm

...These are people who pay no income tax.

This is straight from Rush Limbaugh and is a conscious distortion of the facts. "These ... people" pay FICA and Medicare, gasoline taxes, sales taxes, license taxes or fees, maybe state income taxes, property taxes, .... Many of these taxes are levied without regard to income or any other indicator of ability to pay. I would love to see Romney explain to "these ... people" that they want to vote for Obama because with him they pay no taxes at all. I would love to see him explain to an elderly couple losing their home in my town because they cannot afford the property tax rates that they are freeloaders.This equating of "paying no income taxes" (net) and being freeloaders is abominable.

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Postby MaineSkeptic » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:10 pm

This equating of "paying no income taxes" (net) and being freeloaders is abominable.

Not to mention the fact -- unashamedly echoed by Ari Fleischer this evening -- that the 47% who by implication should pay higher income taxes than they currently do obviously includes huge swaths of middle-income folks, including millions upon millions of Social Security and Medicare recipients, veterans, and so on.This proves beyond doubt that it is fully Romney's intention to raise taxes on the middle class -- and, what's more, it's because he thinks they're not paying their fair share.

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Postby xKat » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:23 pm

...These are people who pay no income tax.

This is straight from Rush Limbaugh and is a conscious distortion of the facts. "These ... people" pay FICA and Medicare, gasoline taxes, sales taxes, license taxes or fees, maybe state income taxes, property taxes, .... Many of these taxes are levied without regard to income or any other indicator of ability to pay. I would love to see Romney explain to "these ... people" that they want to vote for Obama because with him they pay no taxes at all. I would love to see him explain to an elderly couple losing their home in my town because they cannot afford the property tax rates that they are freeloaders.This equating of "paying no income taxes" (net) and being freeloaders is abominable.

I had lunch about a year ago with someone I know professionally. During the lunch he started saying that people who don't pay federal income taxes and/or people who don't own property shouldn't be entitled to vote. His arguments didn't make much sense and he used "paying no taxes" and "not owning property" interchangeably. Due to the circumstances I really couldn't argue the point with him, so I changed the subject as soon as I could. But the idea that some people really believe that "other" people should be disenfranchised due to economic circumstances makes me wonder what U.S. history they learned in school. They probably were in the classes where they taught 2 citizen parents were needed for NBC....

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Postby ducktape » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:26 pm

Okay, I am willing to BET Mitt Romney $10,000 (which is NOTHING to him but a LOT to me) that I pay a higher percentage of MY income in taxes than he does.Let's see Rmoney put his tax returns where his mouth is.

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Postby A Legal Lohengrin » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:28 pm

I am glad Romney has openly stated he doesn't need these votes and doesn't want them.We'll be pleased to take them.

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Postby xKat » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:36 pm

Lawrence O'Donnell is covering Romney's response to the videos - apparently he took 3 questions at a press event. I didn't get a chance to see the entire video of the response, but he did just show it, and in the part I saw Mitt said he was just "speaking off the cuff" when he talked about the lazy 47% who just want a free ride. Not a very convincing rejection of the sentiment to me.O'Donnell was saying he doesn't remember any presidential candidate saying something so disdainful about the electorate before. I wonder if the GOP will try to resurrect the "clinging to their guns & religion" statement from 4 years ago to go after Obama. Obviously that didn't work the last time, but at the time the RWNJs seemed to think that was a deadly statement for Obama at the time.

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Postby Highlands » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:26 pm

...These are people who pay no income tax.

I apologize Mitt for the fact that my 4 year-old doesn't pay any taxes, and is therefore, according to you, a freeloader. I'll make sure to get him a full-time job, ASAP.
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Postby A Legal Lohengrin » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:29 pm

...These are people who pay no income tax.

I apologize Mitt for the fact that my 4 year-old doesn't pay any taxes, and is therefore, according to you, a freeloader. I'll make sure to get him a full-time job, ASAP.

This is especially rich from a guy who flat-out refuses to prove he's even paid taxes at all.

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Postby Plutodog » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:32 pm

We are not sinners. We are not abominations. We were not born broken, and we do not need salvation. We have embraced our right to think beyond the boundaries of religion. We are living and loving our lives free from faith. -- Sarah Morehead

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Postby mimi » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:24 am

Jimmy Carter's grandson. 8-)

Now, New York’s Daily Intel reports that former President Jimmy Carter’s grandson is to blame—or thank, depending on your view. James Carter IV is credited as a research assistant on the Mother Jones piece that broke the story. Carter spends time “almost every day” searching for video clips of Republicans. Once he unearthed today’s infamous footage, he put the source in contact with Mother Jones, who he has worked with before.

[/break1]thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/09/17/carter-s-grandson-leaked-romney-video.html]http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... video.htmli think this might be the leaker. [/break1]com/AnneOnymous670]https://twitter.com/AnneOnymous670

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:32 am

RutRoh... The guy who hosted the fundraiser captured on video... Well magic underwear isn't part of the package. [/break1]nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/in-a-romney-believer-private-equitys-risks-and-rewards.html?pagewanted=all]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/busin ... wanted=all

Beyond the windswept dunes in Bridgehampton, at a $400,000-a-month oceanfront mansion, bright young things bubbled up and the Champagne flowed fast. Into the small hours, professional dancers in exotic clothing gyrated atop platforms. One couple twirled flaming torches. The sounds of techno boomed over the beach.The New York Post summed up the evening’s Dionysian mysteries with the following headline: “Nude Frolic in Tycoon’s Pool.”

Wonder what those holier-than-thou bigots at the "value voters summit" would think? :-k

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:35 am

Jimmy Carter's grandson. 8-)

Now, New York’s Daily Intel reports that former President Jimmy Carter’s grandson is to blame—or thank, depending on your view. James Carter IV is credited as a research assistant on the Mother Jones piece that broke the story. Carter spends time “almost every day” searching for video clips of Republicans. Once he unearthed today’s infamous footage, he put the source in contact with Mother Jones, who he has worked with before.

[/break1]thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/09/17/carter-s-grandson-leaked-romney-video.html]http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... video.htmli think this might be the leaker. [/break1]com/AnneOnymous670]https://twitter.com/AnneOnymous670

@AnneOnymous670 ‏@JECarter4 I think Carter's karma just ran over Romney's dogma. :lol:

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Postby Plutodog » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:40 am

This one is funny...http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/404002_368428483234166_1857596308_n.jpg
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Postby mimi » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:41 am

I'm watching a clip from O'donnell's show where David Corn sez they held a little something back that will be released tomorrow at Mother Jones.

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:57 am

video of his press conference tonight, starting at 2:30: [msn]49068115[/msn]He claims he's only talking about political process, that it was not 'elegantly stated' and he could have stated it more clearly and in a more effective way. He then says it's a message that he is going to continue to carry, and refuses to answer when questioned if he believes what he said. #-o

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.Romney went on: "[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Sorry Mitt. The ol' etch-a-sketch ain't gonna work this time. FAIL.

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:58 am

I'm watching a clip from O'donnell's show where David Corn sez they held a little something back that will be released tomorrow at Mother Jones.

Makin' Mitt sweat. I love it.

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Postby A Legal Lohengrin » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:59 am

Wonder what those holier-than-thou bigots at the "value voters summit" would think? :-k

It's a Republican so it's fine. If it were Obama they'd be screaming, eyes bugging out, how this proved he is the worst person in the world.Since it's their guy, though, they're totally fine with him whoring out to Orgy Guy to get more money.

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Postby hitch » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:03 am

What really pissses me off is that FICA taxes are income taxes, they are paid by everyone no matter how little they earn which is how the lower 47% earn their money by jobs which are subject to FICA taxes. They don't live investment or capital gains income. Therefore the lower 47% of pay a minimum of 5.65% taxes on their income. And that 5.65% means a hell of a lot more to them that the 13% Romney paid. That 5.65% for many of them means inability to purchase what they need for housing, food and medical care to say nothing as schooling.The [link]clip,http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/17/13926387-romney-secretly-recorded-remarks-not-elegantly-stated?lite[/link] is interesting for what isn't asked of Romney --why did you say that "I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."That's what really insulting, he thinks that 47% of voters, the poor, and lower incomer people (basically making under 48K a year) are poor and lower income because they refuse to accept responsibility.I didn't think it was possible to hate someone more than I did Bush.

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:04 am

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.Romney went on: [highlight]"[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."[/highlight]

This should be in every Obama ad from now 'til election day.

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:06 am

What really pissses me off is that FICA taxes are income taxes, they by everyone no matter how little they earn which is how the lower 47% earn their money by jobs which are subject to FICA taxes. They don't live investment or capital gains income. Therefore the lower 47% of pay a minimum of 5.65% taxes on their income. And that 5.65% means a hell of a lot more to them that the 13% Romney paid. That 5.65% for many of them means inability to purchase what they need for housing, food and medical care to say nothing as schooling.The [link]clip,http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/17/13926387-romney-secretly-recorded-remarks-not-elegantly-stated?lite[/link] is interesting for what isn't asked of Romney --why did you say that "I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."That's what really insulting, he thinks that 47% of voters, the poor, and lower incomer people (basically making under 48K a year) are poor and lower income because they refuse to accept responsibility.I didn't think it was possible to hate someone more than I did Bush.

This man personifies evil.

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Postby Sterngard Friegen » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:13 am

Romney's hubris is palpable. The schadenfreude from his inglorious defeat will be sweet indeed. Whipped by a guy he wouldn't let into his church, who also kicked his ass at Harvard Law School.

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Postby Emma » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:16 am

Wonder what those holier-than-thou bigots at the "value voters summit" would think? :-k

It's a Republican so it's fine. If it were Obama they'd be screaming, eyes bugging out, how this proved he is the worst person in the world.





Since it's their guy, though, they're totally fine with him whoring out to Orgy Guy to get more money.

Ed interviewed a pastor (the name escapes me ... connected with a group that advocates separation of church and State) who attended the "values" summit. He told of seminars where members were instructed on how to get around laws restricting political speech in churches, in one instance they were told to ignore the law altogether.





The Republicans have proven they are willing to do anything to win. At the end of Rachel's show, she talked about the disastrous Romney campaign, implying that Romney is doomed to lose the election ... then she slapped us out of complacency with the facts regarding the obscene amount of money donated to Romney and of voter suppression efforts throughout the country.





Romney ought to be losing. He deserves to lose. But I'm not so sure he will.

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Postby mimi » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:16 am

I hope it stains the entire Republican party. I hope every Republican candidate for every race has to defend themselves from this Romney statement.


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