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Ads aren't inside the ebooks, btw, just on the screensaver.

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New lower-priced Kindle with ads arrives

Beginning today, prospective Kindle purchasers have another option: a lower-priced, ad-sponsored Kindle 3G model.

Priced at $50 below the standard model, AT&T's $139 Kindle 3G with Special Offers comes with built-in Wi-Fi and 3G without monthly fees, data plans or annual contracts. For the discounted price, buyers will see advertisements from AT&T and other companies.

Another feature that may attract the back-to-school crowd is the device's Kindle Textbook Rental service which lets customers rent books for up to 360 days at up to 80% off the textbook list price.

"With Kindle 3G, you never have to find or pay for a Wi-Fi hotspot - you simply download and read books anytime, anywhere," said Amazon's Mike McKenna in a statement accompanying the announcement. "We're excited that AT&T will be offering its customers Kindle 3G with Special Offers. They will get all the features readers love about Kindle 3G - free 3G wireless, global wireless access, Pearl electronic ink display that's easy to read even in bright sunlight, access to over 950,000 'Buy Once, Read Everywhere' Kindle books, plus money-saving special offers."


Amazon also has one for $114 without the 3G wireless.

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I got my Kindle 3G in January for my birthday. I absolutely love it. I love that I can access the net even when the power is out (which is often). I love how it bails out my 13 yr old when she has left in her locker, the book she had to read for Language Arts. No more emergency trips to the library or Barnes and Noble. She is getting one for her birthday.

My son borrowed it this spring to download a book for required reading for his last class in college. The only positive he saw in was the fact that he did not have to drive to get the book, he hates driving. He said he still prefers to turn a page. The biggest downside that he and his classmates found was the inability to search by page number. The instructor said she had not given it a thought that her students would be reading it electronically.

Since all I use mine for is reading, I find it to be perfect.


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I luvs my Kindle :xo

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Since all I use mine for is reading, I find it to be perfect.

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...The biggest downside that he and his classmates found was the inability to search by page number. The instructor said she had not given it a thought that her students would be reading it electronically.

I think that is the publisher's fault, not the technology's fault. Page numbers could be replaced by some other kind of marker. The default that is already there is "location." I use location to navigate around books, and I've set some bookmarks as well. The publisher could basically provide links to every subheading in the book.

Check out what Flat World Knowledge is doing with their textbooks. They seem receptive to student concerns of this nature.

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You can access the page number in most books. Press "help". I only know this because it bugged me and the marvelous Whatever4 looked it up when I was too lazy. :-bd

Edit: Sorry, it's the "menu" key, not the "help" key. :P

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
I love my library. But I am old.


Library books don't automatically enlarge the text so old eyes can actually read them. I love my Kindle for that reason.

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I use to love going to bookstores and sitting on the floor reading bits of various books from isle to isle. Borders became our only real bookstore after all the others closed. Now Borders is gone too and I haz a sad.

I think eBooks and Kindle killed ‘um all

Ya’ll remember that when yer batteries die right in the middle of the good part!

I’m gonna miss getting lost in the bookstores :cry:

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MsDaisy wrote:
I use to love going to bookstores and sitting on the floor reading bits of various books from isle to isle. Borders became our only real bookstore after all the others closed. Now Borders is gone too and I haz a sad.

I think eBooks and Kindle killed ‘um all

Ya’ll remember that when yer batteries die right in the middle of the good part!

I’m gonna miss getting lost in the bookstores :cry:

I haz a sad, too. However, there is good reason to think that Borders did itself in. Selling itself to K-Mart was the beginning of the ending. The old standards that had made Borders great slipped. The people were the key ingredient; they knew the shelves, and they knew how to use their shelf list and the reference tools. Ironically, the Borders brothers made their fame and fortune by their use of IT for shelf lists. The successors' dismal failure to figure out IT was a part of their undoing, but so was the opening of far too many stores that were far too large.

You can browse a lot of books on Amazon, and many Kindle titles let you sample a chapter. It is nowhere near the same, however, as walking the length of a bookshelf.

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Speaking of batteries, you can conserve considerably by avoiding wireless downloads and just downloading to your computer and uploading from there to your Kindle. The whole process takes a couple of minutes. I've never once used the wireless method. I do live in fear of the end of my battery's life, though. Completely unexpected for me, I mean totally unexpected, is that I don't miss bookstores or accumulating a ton of books every year, finding space for them, lugging them around every time I move, or squinting at small type. I just don't, but it truly surprises me after a lifetime of buying, reading and loving physical books. I don't, however, see digital books as the end of physical books. Like some Fogbowers in this thread, there are readers who will always love having books in their hands and on their shelves. The publishing industry has been brought kicking and screaming into e-publishing, (foolishly, very late in the game, imo), but I don't see the industry giving up on traditional print publishing.

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Battery life has not been an issue for me, but I will admit mine is relatively new. But, I use it a great deal. I get at least a month on a charge, and just fully charge it once a month to be safe. The wifi doesn't seem to appreciably wear the battery down.

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I've had mine for two years, reading 2-3 hours every night of those two years. I charge the battery once a month, too, Tex, so you may be right using wireless or not makes little difference. I have read that advice many times, though.

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W2 and I were wandering around our spectacular local independent bookstore the other day, happily picking out books. Well, HE was. I was looking to see if I could read the type. Got me wondering... Brick and mortar book stores should be able to get the commission from Amazon for books selected in stores but purchased on Amazon. Same as if you clicked on an ad for the book, or on an affiliate link online.

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Here is a case of a digital author being picked up by a traditional publisher for paperback books. There are other examples. I expect hard book publishing and e-publishing will become more and more interactive this way, to the benefit of both.

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John Locke, a self-published writer who has built a large audience selling only digital books, is turning his attention to the physical paperback business and has struck a deal with a traditional publisher.

CBS Corp.'s Simon & Schuster will distribute in paperback format eight of Mr. Locke's thrillers, which feature a former CIA assassin named Donovan Creed. Mr. Locke, through his John Locke Books imprint, will publish the books and Simon & Schuster will handle sales and distribution, including returns.

Mr. Locke, a Louisville businessman who put out his first book in 2009, was the first self-published writer to sell 1 million digital books on Amazon.com Inc. Still, he decided to enter the paperback field to capture readers who haven't yet embraced digital books. "These are people who wouldn't have the opportunity to find me otherwise," said Mr. Locke. The author noted that the agreement covers titles that he has previously written, and won't cannibalize his digital sales.

Mr. Locke, 60 years old, has self-published eight Donovan Creed thrillers, several Westerns, and a self-help book aimed at other self-published writers. Altogether he estimates his total e-book sales at about 1.3 million units, the bulk of them since Jan. 1. He has helped build his audience by pricing many of his works at 99 cents. On Monday, his novel "The Love You Crave" ranked No. 55 on Amazon's e-book best-seller list.

Jane Dystel, Mr. Locke's New York literary agent, said that she was approached by Simon & Schuster and that the two then came to terms on a distribution deal, which will begin in February 2012.

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Sadly, these:

just don't have the impact of these:


Oh, and this is Stern's local library. I can see why he likes it:



http://weburbanist.com/2011/08/22/bount ... libraries/

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Is that the Book of Kells over in the left shelf? So the one they have in Dublin is a copy?

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
W4 - I told you when you visited FEMA Camp 17 that taking pictures were OK but that I didn't want them posted. This is a matter of my personal safety! [-(


I suppose pictures of the pool would be bad too. Also.
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No diving board; no "big slide". Max. depth of water: 10 cm.

What is that thing in the water down toward this a way? A salt lick for the deer?

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No diving board; no "big slide". Max. depth of water: 10 cm.


That's what they do in Malibu -- it's a Cement Pond. No one actually SWIMS in it.

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What is that thing in the water down toward this a way? A salt lick for the deer?


That's Stern sunning himself on a rock.

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That's Stern sunning himself on a rock ...

Not on a rock, silly ... on a salt lick. I can see it.

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I guess I'm just old and behind the times.

I love books. The feel and heft and smell. I can't imagine curling up with a Kindle.


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Whatever4 wrote:
That's Stern sunning himself on a rock.

Stern is so old he's petrified?

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Emma wrote:
I guess I'm just old and behind the times.

I love books. The feel and heft and smell. I can't imagine curling up with a Kindle.


Me too. Also.

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Emma wrote:
I guess I'm just old and behind the times.

I love books. The feel and heft and smell. I can't imagine curling up with a Kindle.


Me too. Also.


That's what I thought too. Until I bought and started using my Kindle. Don't knock it unless you've tried it.

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