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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:35 pm 
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Here's something interesting about the "tea parties"

http://imagine2050.newcomm.org/2009/04/14/white-nationalists-tied-to-tea-parties/

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If that wasn’t hard enough for real [sic] conservative activists to swallow, they are really going to hate showing up at rallies only to rub elbows with white nationalists. Kris Kobach got the party started in Kansas on April 4th when he hosted a joint tea party/anti-immigrant rally with Billy Gilchrist, Topeka chapter leader for the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. In 2004 Kansas Republican leader Timothy Burger wrote in response to Kobach’s failed congressional run, “It doesn’t help matters that Kobach was hired by FAIR, widely perceived as a racist anti-immigrant group during the campaign.” But that stinging accusation hasn’t stopped Kobach from working for the John Tanton network ever since, or from dipping his tainted toes into anything that smells ripe for manipulation and publicity.

ALI-PAC, a North Carolina-based anti-immigrant group, is shaping up to be the biggest tea party cheerleader of all. ALI-PAC has formed a coalition with twenty-five other anti-immigrant groups in support of tea party events, a good number of whom are part of the John Tanton network. ALI-PAC’s whole reason for existence is due to a local LA billboard advertisement that showed LA crossed out with Mexico written over it - an unforgivable mistake big enough to launch a national organization obviously. Ever since, ALI-PAC has been hobnobbing with vigilante minutemen groups; party attendees shouldn’t be surprised if they are recruited to border patrol will enjoying their tea.

All that is nothing compared to the recruiting being planned by neo-Nazis at Arizona tea parties. You know you’ve really lost control when your quirky libertarian actions are mined by the scary bald guys with swastika tattoos. Stormfront, the hard-core white power website, is full of discussions about plans to attend tea parties all over the country. One Stormfront poster wrote, “Ladies and gentlemen, I think every WN [white nationalist] needs to not only attend the April 15th Tea Party nearest you (I’m going to the Alamo in San Antonio) but then stay involved and help provide leadership to this movement. I believe that this is the white revolution we’ve been waiting for.” Uh, right. Let’s hope Fox News manages to televise that.

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Hey, I have asked you to respect me, but you refuse to. And your the one egging me on about Berg. Let's see do you know the answer? Meaning have you looked at EVERY case berg has ever done?


Donny you think you deserve respect? do "WE" need to go over your 900 plus post's?

typical Donny MO, ignore the fact YOUR the one who said you'll find the info not me.

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Some how I don't think you have.


I'm not the one who said i would.

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Look, Lisa is busy I have been busy but I told you that I did not know where to find this information. Since you don't want to believe me, why don't you show me your proof that Berg has never won a case? I mean then you would have me to where I could not say anything. Somehow I don't think you have that do you?


Amazing your to busy yet you are here on PJ posting. The rest of your comment is nothing more then you try to pass the buck. go copy and paste where I say "Berg has never won a case" or you to busy on PJ to search on pj?

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Here I am going to St. Louis so I will take photographs so I can show you how many people actually attended. But I can say this it sure as hell will be more than the 14,000 you originally said. But again thats all you people do. Everything is fake to you guys. Everything is phony because you do not understand what it is about.


I don't care if 50,000 turn out, means nothing except to the people protesting.

oh yes it's us who believe Obama is a "fake" his COLB is a "fake" :lol: :lol: NO Donny it's you who doesn't understand. You claim it's bipartisan yet Tim Phillips just admitted it is a conservative movement. This is nothing more then a way to attack Obama, which is your right to do. Tea bag away just practice safe tea bagging.

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You Tube you said something the other day that I agreed with. The difference between the Dems and the Repubs is the Dems tax, the Repubs Borrow, either way we still have to pay it back


No it's not the same. when you are taxed for one dollar, it's one dollar paid. When you borrow that dollar you have interest rates attached so you pay more.


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Tune into Your World With Neil Cavuto for coverage of the Sacramento Teabagging.

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Cavuto's reporting "better than 5,000 folks here."

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 Post subject: Re: Tea Party
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:13 pm 
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ROTFLMAO!

so cute to watch the usual suspects get all proud about 1500 showing up or even 3000
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only 300 million people in the country but those 1500 are serial!
serial dammit!


They're super serial, even :)


Maybe you missed the part where I said IN ST. LOUIS

So I think you might want to rethink this


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Koyaan wrote:
Cavuto's reporting "better than 5,000 folks here."

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Because Cavuto is such a honest person :lol:. I love how he tries to convince the views its bipartisan ever other minute while sign's in the back ground show different.

Sacramento County, California pop. 2007 1,386,667


LOL, Glenn beck asked the tea baggers in Texas "what you think about being called extremist and terrorist" the camera focused on the tea baggers booing with a big sign in the crowd saying "right-wing extremist" with a arrow pointing down :lol: :lol: :lol:

Only at Fox..


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 Post subject: Re: Tea Party
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:27 pm 
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Koyaan wrote:
Cavuto's reporting "better than 5,000 folks here."

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Because Cavuto is such a honest person :lol:. I love how he tries to convince the views its bipartisan ever other minute while sign's in the back ground show different.

Sacramento County, California pop. 2007 1,386,667


LOL, Glenn beck asked the tea baggers in Texas "what you think about be called extremist and terrorist" the camera focused on the tea baggers booing with a big sign in the crowd saying "right-wing extremist" with a arrow pointing down :lol: :lol: :lol:

Only at Fox..


I guess your never going to believe the #'s


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Don Houston wrote:
Youtube-said-so wrote:
Koyaan wrote:
Cavuto's reporting "better than 5,000 folks here."

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Because Cavuto is such a honest person :lol:. I love how he tries to convince the views its bipartisan ever other minute while sign's in the back ground show different.

Sacramento County, California pop. 2007 1,386,667


LOL, Glenn beck asked the tea baggers in Texas "what you think about be called extremist and terrorist" the camera focused on the tea baggers booing with a big sign in the crowd saying "right-wing extremist" with a arrow pointing down :lol: :lol: :lol:

Only at Fox..


I guess your never going to believe the #'s


Donny I sure don't believe faux News, I can cite thousands of lies from Faux news. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, 5000 out of 1,386,667 is not a great turn out Consider the Sacramento Gay Pride Parade got 30000 - 40000 people. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Tea Party
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:59 pm 
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200 gather at Love Park for Tax Day Tea Party

By Peter Mucha

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About 200 people gathered at Center City's Love Park for a midday "tea party" to protest excessive government spending.

The rain-soaked rally was one of dozens being held throughout the country. Protesters held "Don't Tread on Me" flags, banners and signs - and lots of umbrellas - as the Pledge of Allegiance and the "Star Spangled Banner" boomed over loudspeakers.

Then a parade of loud human speakers lit into Washington's lack of fiscal restraint.

"Our revolution is not an armed conflict," declared passionate, bow-tied Jesse Civello, 16, a Cheltenham High School student who addressed the crowd.

"Quite the contrary, our revolution is a peaceful, yet powerful symbol to our neighbors, to our leaders and to the world that the American people will no longer sit back and watch the debt of our country soar well over $11 trillion."

He was followed by financial author Paul Karcher, who got cheers from the soggy crowd by saying, "I guess I'm someone who could be called a clinger. I cling to my guns and my religion!"

The protestors have a simple hope - "repeal the pork, cut taxes," said organizer Diana Reimer, head of the Philadelphia Tax Day Tea Party. "The American people want to see where their money is going, and they don't like where it is going."

Nearly all of the 20 or more hand-lettered signs had a different message. Among them:

-- "Even God Only Requires 10 Percent."

-- "It's the Tenth Amendment, Stupid."

-- "You Most Likely Don't Know What Socialism Is."

-- "Three Months to Destroy What We've Had for 233 Years."

"I got some strong feelings in the way that government has gone too far," said Dennis Stanton, a maker of "truck wash systems" from Huntington Valley.

He stood listening, holding up a sign that read, "Innovation, Not Taxation."

The country is on the wrong track with stimulus packages and bailouts, he said.

If businesses can't cut it, "let 'em fail!" he said.

"It's not only about President Obama, it's about everyone in Washington," said fitness instructor Marcia Robbins, 47, attending with her husband, Drew.

"It's about government being limited, not being all-powerful," he said.


photos - http://www.philly.com/inquirer/gallery/Tax_Day_Tea_Party.html

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Never in the history of human endeavor have so many got together to protest against their taxes being reduced


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 Post subject: Re: Tea Party
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Don Houston wrote:
You Tube you said something the other day that I agreed with. The difference between the Dems and the Repubs is the Dems tax, the Repubs Borrow, either way we still have to pay it back


In that case, I guess I'll choose tax, since that way at least we're not paying more for the same services through interest on top of the initial costs.


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The Secret Service just shut down a DC tea party after someone threw a package over the white house fence; see: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/1 ... 87243.html


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The Secret Service just shut down a DC tea party after someone threw a package over the white house fence; see: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/1 ... 87243.html


I guess they needed this.
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The video on Huffington Post shows a pitifully small group gathered in any case. Looks to be a few dozen people. Apparently teabaggers don't like going out in the rain. :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Tea Party
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Koyaan wrote:
Cavuto's reporting "better than 5,000 folks here."

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"In yet another tea-bag day controversy, Fox anchor Neil Cavuto was captured on an open mic discussing the crowd numbers with an on-location producer, estimating the turnout at 5,000 people, but minutes later Cavuto told viewers that "They were expecting 5,000 here, it's got to be easily double, if not triple that.""

http://www.vancouversun.com/News/News+s ... story.html

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iangould wrote:
"In yet another tea-bag day controversy, Fox anchor Neil Cavuto was captured on an open mic discussing the crowd numbers with an on-location producer, estimating the turnout at 5,000 people, but minutes later Cavuto told viewers that "They were expecting 5,000 here, it's got to be easily double, if not triple that.""


Yeah, Olbermann was airing it earlier.

Just making shit up out of thin air.

After looking more closely at some of the video, that 5,000 figure is way off to. Half that would be a pretty generous estimate.

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Of the reports I've heard of the tea parties none even mentioned birferdom.

Are the B-folks themselves claiming any bragging rights?

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I'd be greatly impressed, if the widely publicized and well funded Teabagging Parties garnered more than 1/10th of 1% of the population in any metropolitan area in this great land of ours.

0.1% isn't exactly a popular movement. 'Specially with the publicity they've had.

"We, the people," my ass.

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April 15, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Phil,

CNN finally picked up the story. One quote was disturbing

“I think it’s only a matter of time before these people quit carrying signs and start doing something else,” said Ed McQueen, an Ohio resident who attended the Chicago rally. “What that is I don’t know. Quit paying taxes? Are they going to start carrying sticks and clubs? I don’t know.”

This is what I have been concerned about, and I got the feeling now that I am not alone. Before I see “something else”, I think WE THE PEOPLE need to see a certified long form birth certificate(with footprints), passports, college admission forms, student loan information. POTUS come, POTUS go…follow the Constitution.


emphasis mine


Now, this guy is evidently confusing the tax issue with the BC issue, no?

with footprints? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Well, on my way to school, I was able to drive past four of the parties in Frisco and Plano. I would say out of the four locations on Preston Road (all shopping centers at major corners) there was probably around 500 people in total.

The largest group was at the last place I drove past. I would estimate about 200 on the four corners. I'm just happy they didn't block traffic.

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Koyaan wrote:
Cavuto's reporting "better than 5,000 folks here."

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"In yet another tea-bag day controversy, Fox anchor Neil Cavuto was captured on an open mic discussing the crowd numbers with an on-location producer, estimating the turnout at 5,000 people, but minutes later Cavuto told viewers that "They were expecting 5,000 here, it's got to be easily double, if not triple that.""

http://www.vancouversun.com/News/News+s ... story.html


So my above post's doubting fox news and Cavuto being truthful was dead on. I also notice the type of camera shots were up close to make the crowd look bigger then it was.. I checked in with a couple Fox news watch dog groups, they pointed out the same thing.

Anyone remember when fox was trying to hype Regan's birthday party few years back claiming thousands pilgrimage to it when nobody showed up.. Typical fake news by Fox


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:08 am 
The one in St. Louis I estimated about 6000 people. This coming from http://www.kmov.com/video/politics-inde ... vid=351933 a cbs affiliate station. I do have photo's and I will be putting on my site in a few days.


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This site is claiming the Tea Party's had a big turnout. What is factual? :?

http://taxdayteaparty.com/
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