War on Women

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:00 am

GG sent me link to this post.

Quote:

Cathy McMorris-Rodgers Thinks Democrats Are Scaring Women
Posted on March 21, 2012 by ABL | 24 Comments

Oh, fuck this:

This woman is out of her fucking skull. How DARE she? Democrats are scaring women to drum up votes? Is she serious? Let’s take a little walk down GOP Fuckery Lane, shall we?

Republicans are trying to shove foreign objects into our vaginas.

Republicans are comparing us to fucking farm animals.

Republicans are trying to force us to carry DEAD FETUSES in our wombs because hey — pigs and cows do it!

Republicans want to tax us if we choose to get an abortion.

There is much more. Too much more. (I didn't carryover the links either.)

http://angryblacklady.com/2012/03/21/ca ... ing-women/

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:19 am

Republicans don't have a clue that they are their own worst enemy regarding women voters. Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell said it's a falsehood perpetrated by Democrats.

Huffington Post wrote:

But in an interview on CNN Tuesday night, he said the "War on Women" is something Democrats have invented.
"This 'war on women' argument is very unfortunate," he told John King. "It's false, and it's been the political theater for the Democrats for the past couple of months."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 70834.html

McDonnell said this after promoting the ultrasound bill in the Virginia legislature. It's worth noting the vaginal probe portion was removed only after "transvaginal probe" became a staple for late night television.

BTW: The Republican "War on Women" has been in full operation for years, not a couple of months.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6637

Quote:

the vaginal probe portion was removed

The words were removed, but not the intent.

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:58 am

Will such legislation survive scrutiny by SCOTUS (even in its present degraded form)? If a right to privacy were the basis of the original abortion decision, is there not also an issue of right to privacy here?

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6637

The thing is, you have to have a woman who's put in the situation who then challenges the law and has to step forward and be known. Women don't want to do that. They want to get their health care and be left alone. I think the NJ's take advantage of women wanting to maintain their privacy. Instead of making abortion go away through education and prevention, they want to make it go away by making it so demeaning, cumbersome and hard to find, women just give up.

Based on abortion statistics, that 1 in 3 women has an abortion in her lifetime, chances are pretty good that these NJ Republican men making these laws have a close family member - wife, daughter, mother - who's had an abortion. Do they know it? Do they want these rights for themselves but not others? Or do they live in a family where things go on behind their backs? I doubt it.

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:20 am

Mimi - do you follow ABL on Twitter? If not you should. She has been all over this War on Women thing and has formed "Team Uterati" and is working on a Uterati Wiki page right now documenting all of the laws going on around the Country.

She blogs at Angry Black Lady (her own blog) and at Balloon Juice. Her twitter handle is @AngryBlackLady
She is a non-practicing lawyer so she is the perfect voice on these issues.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:21 am

kimba wrote:

Based on abortion statistics, that 1 in 3 women has an abortion in her lifetime, chances are pretty good that these NJ Republican men making these laws have a close family member - wife, daughter, mother - who's had an abortion. Do they know it? Do they want these rights for themselves but not others? Or do they live in a family where things go on behind their backs? I doubt it.

You know the answer to that one

The abortions with which they are personally acquainted are private tales of anguish and dismay, hard decisions, and terrible necessity... carried through with tremendous reverence and care.

Unlike the abortions of other people, who are all sluts, heretics, and deadbeats.

Hektor · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:37 am

kimba wrote:

The thing is, you have to have a woman who's put in the situation who then challenges the law and has to step forward and be known. Women don't want to do that.

And the RWNJ have made such a thing very hard for a woman to do so publicly. A woman who merely comments on the affordability of contraception is labeled a slut. (Of course there's never any demeaning criticism of the men who would have to be obviously participating in their narrow and hilariously inept understanding of what contraception is and how it works).

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:40 am

I will also post this over on the Abortion thread, but this is a really good idea from the Guardian in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... CMP=twt_gu

For every day the 40 days for life people picket the BPAS (British Pregnancy Advisory Service) clinics people are donating to the BPAS. I figure this could be done over here with Planned Parenthood. Every day they stay out there picketing the 40 days for life folks are raising money for the clinics. =D>

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:01 am

The current Republican war on women illustrates just how much the Republican Party has changed (as has the Democratic Party when it no longer had to deal with Dixiecrats).

The Senator who first introduced the 19th Amendment (in 1878) was Aaron Augustus Sargent (R, CA). When the favorable vote finally came in Congress (after decades or centuries of failure), the Amendment passed in the Senate in 1919 as follows:
In favor: Republicans 36 Democrats 20
Against: Republicans 8 Democrats 17
There were also Senators paired, as well as absent Senators.

The Amendment was brought to a vote after the failure of a four-hour filibuster led by Democrats, during which they attempted to locate their three absent Senators.

esseff44 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:04 pm

The Komen Foundation is being dismantled due to the pulling of grants to Planned Parenthood. Who will be left to donate or participate? Who will want to be associated with them? The blowback has been fast and furious. It's happening to some extent with the governors and legislators in red states that are passing these extreme laws restricting women's reproductive health care access. I am just hoping the blowback does to the Tea Party dominated organizations what it did to Komen. It will take a little longer to build up, but it's happening.

I think Chris Matthews made a very good point in the clip above: The Tea Party rode into power on tax and deficit issues, but they have focused on social issues instead which are unpopular and getting more unpopular.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:33 pm

esseff44 wrote:

The Komen Foundation is being dismantled due to the pulling of grants to Planned Parenthood. Who will be left to donate or participate? Who will want to be associated with them? The blowback has been fast and furious. It's happening to some extent with the governors and legislators in red states that are passing these extreme laws restricting women's reproductive health care access. I am just hoping the blowback does to the Tea Party dominated organizations what it did to Komen. It will take a little longer to build up, but it's happening.

I think Chris Matthews made a very good point in the clip above: The Tea Party rode into power on tax and deficit issues, but they have focused on social issues instead which are unpopular and getting more unpopular.

And, notably, freedom and states' rights. And all the social issues being pushed, especially the anti-women's-health ones, are anti-freedom. (They justify this by posing it as a wedge issue to weaken the Health Care Act.)

Even some of the gun rights things being passed like Nation Right to Carry Reciprocity, run against states' rights.

And none of it can be positioned, as far as I can tell, as anything that improves quality of life, strengthens the US, or helps people who can use help -- so simply by omission their priorities slow the recovery, weakening Obama.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:36 pm

kimba wrote:

Based on abortion statistics, that 1 in 3 women has an abortion in her lifetime, chances are pretty good that these NJ Republican men making these laws have a close family member - wife, daughter, mother - who's had an abortion.

Sounds like plenty of room for bitter men seeking to after-the-fact prevent future occurrences of abortions that they feel hurt by in their own lives. Not a rational response but sounds like that's what is going on to some degree at least.

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:41 pm

kimba wrote:

Joseph Robidoux III wrote:

the vaginal probe portion was removed

The words were removed, but not the intent.

"Pro-life" legislators from South Dakota, Kansas, Virginia and others have been upfront about their intentions. They want to enact every available hinderance in order to possibly persuade a woman not to go through with an abortion. South Dakota legislators have been more brazen. They don't care if their state law is constitutional or not. They prefer a state law which forces the Supreme Court to reconsider Roe and Casey. Should SCOTUS not consider their law and the SD statute stays on the books, they're fine with that too.

kate520 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:56 pm

I've got to believe that these laws, aimed not just at women but at the "religious" right's traditional enemies The Poor and The Disenfranchised, cropping up in so many states at once during a tiny window of opportunity, are from ALEC. We should keep an eye on them. The Kochs will be up to no good this year, guar-on-teed.

June bug · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:22 pm

kate520 wrote:

I've got to believe that these laws, aimed not just at women but at the "religious" right's traditional enemies The Poor and The Disenfranchised, cropping up in so many states at once during a tiny window of opportunity, are from ALEC. We should keep an eye on them. The Kochs will be up to no good this year, guar-on-teed.

^^^^ This +1

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:31 pm

Indeed, almost everything we are against, comes from ALEC. (http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed)

That would include the "Stand your ground" laws.

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:35 pm

Republican Congressman Tells Women At Equal Rights Rally To Support Democrats

Quote:

On Thursday during a rally in support of the Equal Rights Amendment, GOP Rep. Richard Hanna of New York told the women in attendance to throw their support to Democratic candidates if they want their rights protected.

“I think these are very precarious times for women, it seems. So many of your rights are under assault,” Hanna told the female dominated crowd, according to The Huffington Post. “I’ll tell you this: Contribute your money to people who speak out on your behalf, because the other side — my side — has a lot of it. And you need to send your own message. You need to remind people who you vote, you matter, and that they can’t succeed without your help. This is a dogfight, it’s a fistfight, and you have all the cards. I can only tell you to get out there and use them. Tell the other women, the other 51 percent of the population, to kick in a few of their bucks. Make it matter, get out there, get on TV, advertise, talk about this. The fact that you want [the ERA] is evidence that you deserve it and you need it.”

remainder:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/23 ... democrats/

Quote:

When HuffPost asked Hanna after the rally whether he was bucking his party by encouraging women to give their money to "the other side," he said that he wasn't.

"I'm trying to help [the GOP]," he said. "I think it's the appropriate thing to do."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/2 ... 73381.html

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:51 pm

Rep. Hanna is a Honors graduate of Reed College, with majors in economics and political science. A Reed education tends to stick around a while.

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:57 am

The extended cut of moveon's new ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=834jIeRQd3M&feature=relmfu

Quotes from prominent Republicans

esseff44 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:16 pm

I think it would be more effective to have clips of the original speakers who said those things. I also find the background sounds distracting. I think the campaign needs to be directed at the groups of women who normally would not bother to vote. It's a waste of resources to 'sing to the quire.' They should be aiming ads at mothers of young women asking them to have a talk with the daughters about how it was in the bad ole' days before abortion and contraception was legal and accessible. They should tell them about what happened to girls who 'got in trouble.'

shrek · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:54 pm

Frank Rich wrote an excellent lengthy piece on the GOP war on women which is well worth a read.

Stag Party
The GOP’s woman problem is that it has a serious problem with women

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:15 pm

Missouri HB 1541 (sponsered by birther Tim Jones) just passed the House.

Here's one place you can read it:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca ... gd4_lVG_cg

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:05 pm

Poll results such as these will not go unnoticed by the Rmoney campaign.

Washington Post wrote:

In the 12 states — Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin — included in the Gallup/USA Today survey, Obama leads Romney 51 percent to 42 percent.

While that lead is eye-opening in its own right — most people believe that the race between Obama and Romney will be very close — it’s all the more remarkable given that, just a month ago, Romney held a two-point edge in these same 12 states.

And even a cursory look inside the numbers explains why Obama has reclaimed the lead; it’s women. In mid-February, Obama took less than half of the vote from women under 50 years old. Now he wins more than 60 percent of them. (Obama is ahead of Romney among all women by 18 points.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html

This will require some serious Etch-A-Sketchin' after Rmoney secures the nomination.

MaineSkeptic · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:48 pm **Posts:** 5295

Joseph Robidoux III wrote:

This will require some serious Etch-A-Sketchin' after Rmoney secures the nomination.

Meh, all he has to do is turn on the old charm. As only he can.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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