Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.


All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 433 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 ... 18  Next   
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:42 pm
Posts: 3370
Location: The 808
Occupation: World-class procrastinator and perpetual late-bloomer.
mimi wrote:
the phonecall has been verified. it was Walker. Weigel was one who verified. Mother Jones also verified.


Holy. Fuck.

How can these people be so stupid while still managing to remember how to breathe?

_________________
"If it was a legitimately stolen election, Romney's body would have had ways of shutting that down. Also, if a usurpation happens, even in that horrible situation of a stolen election, it was God's will." -A Legal Lohengrin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am
Posts: 5251
PLEASE tell me the 'Liberal media' is all over this.

_________________
You cannot kill what has no life...


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:56 am
Posts: 392
Location: The Left Coast
They got caught! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I bet the real David Koch is mumbling, "Moron, moron, moron, moron..."

_________________
Reality is only a Rorschach ink-blot, you know. - Alan Watts (1915-1973)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:01 am
Posts: 18584
Location: Planet Earth (most the time)
Occupation: I'm not at liberty to say. In other words, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Suranis wrote:
PLEASE tell me the 'Liberal media' is all over this.



He's holding a presser at 2:30.


edited to add time is CST.

_________________
Yes We Can! ~ Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:01 am
Posts: 18584
Location: Planet Earth (most the time)
Occupation: I'm not at liberty to say. In other words, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Quote:
Jay Bookman
A call for armed counterprotesters to Atlanta labor rally

10:02 am February 23, 2011, by Jay

SEIU, the Service Employees International Union, is holding rallies at state capitols around the country to demonstrate solidarity with public employee unions in Wisconsin. The union has scheduled an event at the Gold Dome in Atlanta at 4 pm today.

This has been posted on the far-right Free Republic site, under the headline:
“Atlanta Tea Party and Many Other Groups, Facing Off the SEIU Thugs Wednesday”



the freeper link:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2678174/posts


Quote:
“RTC” is an acronym for “Right to Carry” firearms. The advice that “attendees are requested to be flexible in your attire” is apparently a suggestion to keep firearms concealed. The original author goes on to claim that “the lefties are idiots who are very good at running their mouths… and also very good at keeping their distance from an armed American”.



http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2 ... bor-rally/



What is it with TeaBaggers and their guns. I hope nobody shows. Freeper events often more hype than anything.

_________________
Yes We Can! ~ Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:32 am
Posts: 19965
Location: FEMA Camp 17 -- Malibu (Hey! You! Get off the lawn!)
Occupation: Schadenfreude artist.
At the end of his faux conversation with "David Koch," while glowing over his hero Ronald Reagan's conduct in destroying the PATCO union, Walker says that this incident led to the fall of the Berlin Wall because foreign governments knew Reagan was and would be tough and implacable. (I'm paraphrasing; Walker's thought process and articulation aren't quite that mature.) Problem is, Walker forgot what happened in Lebanon two years after Reagan "heroically" destroyed an American labor union.

The PATCO Unon struck in August 1981, and was gone by October of that year (decertified on October 22, 1981). Reagan sent Marines into Lebanon in 1983. The Marines' barracks was bombed on October 23, 1983, and quit Lebanon as a result in Februry 1984.

Walker is another conservative idiot with no true understanding of history who makes up his own fantasies about Reagan and dreams he too, one day, will be like his hero. The problem is, he has no idea what Reagan did when he was in office.

I hope Walker is brought down by this faux telephone call. He has shown himself to be a handmaiden of Koch Industries. (And let's not forget Wackenhut.)

I don't think this is going to go well for Walker. (He also showed his duplicity in other areas, including the fact that he and his staff calculated whether to puts agents provocateur into the protestors, and in scheming to trick Democratic legislators to return to Wisconsin in exchange for a false promise by Walker to negotiate with them.)

_________________
When there are a finite number of ways to screw something up, Orly Taitz will find an infinite number of ways to do so. (The Sternsig Rule.)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:09 pm
Posts: 7777
Location: USA
Occupation: Amateur radio host trying to figure out how to lower myself to shameless begging and stupid petition filing. It might be a good way to make a living. ;)
The fake David Koch also says to Walker: "Well, I tell you what, Scott: once you crush these bastards I’ll fly you out to Cali and really show you a good time." Walker replies: "All right, that would be outstanding."

Did Walker just say he was open to a bribe?

_________________
The O-bot prayer:

Grant me the superior wit and biting sarcasm to mock the Birthers whose minds I cannot change
The superior facts, law, and reason to change the minds of the Birthers whom I can
And the wisdom to team up at Politijab The Fogbow with those who share my addiction and know the difference


- Allison 2/16/2009


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:01 am
Posts: 18584
Location: Planet Earth (most the time)
Occupation: I'm not at liberty to say. In other words, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
From the tweets, it looks like he's just giving same old bull.


Other related stories:

good:

Quote:
RT @AFLCIO: BREAKING from Indiana: Right to Work Withdrawn http://ow.ly/422EB #p2 #phnm #teaparty #tcot #wiunion #in #indiana #tcot #sgp


Quote:
The Indianapolis Star reports that Republican lawmakers have withdrawn a so-called “right to work” bill that drew thousands of Indiana workers to the Capitol in protest this week and spurred Democratic lawmakers to boycott state Senate proceedings to prevent a vote on the anti-worker bill.

But it is unclear if the senators will return, because the Star reports:

Last night they issued a statement saying they had concerns about 11 bills, including other labor-related bills, education reforms and the proposed next state budget. They singled out two in particular: the right-to-work bill and one which lets state tax dollars pay for private school tuition for some families.


http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/02/23/break ... withdrawn/


bad:

Quote:
RT @matthewstoller Providence, RI just issued layoff notices 2 all of its teachers. All of them http://bit.ly/gZ2xBv #p2


Quote:
PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- The financially troubled city of Providence on Tuesday issued layoff notices to all its nearly 2,000 teachers because city officials say they must make an unknown number of cuts in the budget, and they want "maximum flexibility."

State law requires school departments to notify teachers by March 1 if they will be laid off the following school year. The notices do not mean that the teachers will lose their jobs, just that they could at the end of the year.

School Superintendent Tom Brady on Tuesday wrote to teachers that the school budget outline for the next academic year is dire, with a projected deficit of nearly $40 million.

Providence Teachers Union President Steve Smith told The Providence Journal the decision was "beyond insane" and creates chaos and anxiety among teachers.


remainder:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/23/rh ... -teachers/


and that guy who tweeted about using live ammo is fired.

Quote:
RT @motherjones: UPDATE: "Use live ammunition" deputy atty gen'l in Indiana is fired. Following up now: http://su.pr/9ZktwF #p2 #wiunion



haha twitter haters. :P

_________________
Yes We Can! ~ Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:01 am
Posts: 18584
Location: Planet Earth (most the time)
Occupation: I'm not at liberty to say. In other words, I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.
Politifact says Walker didn't campaign on this like he says he did. I don't know if I posted that link before or not. So here:
http://politifact.com/wisconsin/stateme ... gned-his-/


And this concerns the Governor of Ohio. I'll have to read this a few times. A post on the FAIR blog about the public workers pensions:

http://www.fair.org/blog/2011/02/23/fac ... c-workers/

brought this comment:

Quote:
Doug Latimer Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 am

Peter, here's a little more useful intel from yesterday's DEMOCRACY NOW!:

[L]et me read a sentence from a recent paper by Dean Baker, who concludes, "Most of the pension shortfall using the current methodology is attributable to the plunge in the stock market in the years 2007-2009. If pension funds had earned returns just equal to the interest rate on 30-year Treasury bonds in the three years since 2007, their assets would be more than $850 billion greater than they are today."

And this—he quotes David Cay Johnston of tax.com: "The average Wisconsin pension is $24,500 a year, which is hardly lavish. But what is stunning is that 15% of the money contributed to the fund each year is going to Wall Street in fees," which is why we now ask the question, "Why isn’t Wall Street in jail?"

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/22/m ... all_street


Over at Democracy Now Matt Taibbi tells us thast Governor of Ohio, Kashic, used to work for Lehman Brothers.

Quote:
MATT TAIBBI: Governor Kasich, yeah, and he was intimately involved with selling—getting the state of Ohio’s pension fund to invest in Lehman Brothers and buy mortgage-backed securities. And of course they lost all that money. And this, broadly, was really what the mortgage bubble and the financial crisis was all about. It was essentially a gigantic criminal fraud scheme where all the banks were taking mismarked mortgage-backed securities, very, very dangerous, toxic subprime loans, they were chopping them up and then packaging them as AAA-rated investments, and then selling them to state pension funds, to insurance companies, to Chinese banks and Dutch banks and Icelandic banks. And, of course, these things were blowing up, and all those funds were going broke. But what they’re doing now is they’re blaming the people who were collecting these pensions—they’re blaming the workers, they’re blaming the firemen, they’re blaming the policemen—whereas, in reality, they were actually the victims of this fraud scheme. And the only reason that people aren’t angrier about this, I think, is because they don’t really understand what happened. If these were car companies that had sold a trillion dollars’ worth of defective cars to the citizens of the United States, there would be riots right now. But these were mortgage-backed securities, it’s complicated, people don’t understand it, and they’re only now, I think, beginning to realize that they were defrauded.

AMY GOODMAN: Explain what the crime is. Who has profited? Who should be on trial?

MATT TAIBBI: Well, you know, again, the broad crime in all of this was just fraud. They were taking—these banks were taking, again, these subprime mortgages, and they would have these billion-dollar pools of mortgages where, in some cases, 70 or 80 percent of the loans were to people who had no identification or no jobs or who had put no money down into the mortgage. And then they were taking these loans and applying this phony baloney, hocus pocus math, these derivative instruments, and turning them into AAA-rated investments. And they were marketing, again, these securities to, say, state pension funds as AAA-rated investments, which means credit risk almost zero. So they took the stuff that they knew was very, very risky and very, very likely to default, and they were going to the state of Wisconsin, the state of Ohio, the state of New York, and saying, "Hey, this is almost as safe as—or in fact, it is as safe as United States Treasury bonds. You should buy this, and you’ll earn a little bit more than you’ll earn if you buy T-bills." The reality was, they were just taking absolutely worthless stuff and sticking it with these people and then fleeing the scene. This is no different than drug dealers who take a bag of oregano and sell it to you as, you know, a pound of weed. That’s exactly the same scam.


http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/22/m ... all_street

So complicated.

_________________
Yes We Can! ~ Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:21 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm
Posts: 5490
This got spread and I was wrong due to data used not being current or comprehensive. Sorry.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/sta ... -scores-v/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:43 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm
Posts: 5490
Murphy's Law
How Walker Will Transform Wisconsin
And: How Republicans Benefit.
by Bruce Murphy | Monday 2/21/2011


http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/murphyslaw/

Worth reading.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:52 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm
Posts: 23562
Politics News Alert: Wis. Assembly agrees to deal ending debate
February 24, 2011 7:48:00 AM
----------------------------------------

Republicans and Democrats in the Wisconsin Assembly have agreed to a deal that will limit further debate on a bill taking away collective bargaining rights for public workers and lead to a vote on the measure later Thursday.

The deal was announced shortly after 6 a.m. Thursday following an unprecedented 40-hour debate that began Tuesday morning.

http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/ ... FTAAO/RF/h

For more information, visit PostPolitics.com.

Quote:
Democrats agreed to limit further amendments to just 38 with a 10-minute time limit on each one. If they take the maximum time for each, with no breaks, that would put the vote around noon.

Democratic Rep. Mark Pocan says democracy is being limited with the agreement and Democrats still plan to strenuously make their arguments over the last hours of debate.

_________________
Let us tenderly and kindly cherish, therefore, the means of knowledge. Let us dare to read, think, speak, and write.
John Adams


ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm
Posts: 6633
Indiana Deputy AG Jeff Cox has lost his job after his twitter exchange with MotherJones calling for WI riot police to use live ammunition on protestors in Madison and the revealing of some of his other blog postings.

Quote:
Today the Indiana Attorney General’s Office announced that Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Cox is no longer employed by this agency.

The Indiana Attorney General’s Office conducted a thorough and expeditious review after “Mother Jones” magazine today published an article attributing private Twitter postings and private blog postings to Cox.



http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/indiana-official-jeff-cox-live-ammunition-against-wisconsin-protesters#update

To me this says basically: " Yeah, we knew about him, but you've found out he's an Indiana Dep AG and published his crap all over the intertubz, so now we've had to finally act." Just like the Navy with Captain Honors and his nasty videos - Navy brass knew, but no one did anything until it was all over YouTube.

Sunlight is a great disinfectant.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:58 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm
Posts: 6633
Quote:
Over at Democracy Now Matt Taibbi tells us thast Governor of Ohio, Kashic, used to work for Lehman Brothers.


This played large in the 2010 election in Ohio. Kasich refused to reveal how much his bonus was from Lehman Bros the year it collapsed. He was a senior VP but claimed " oh, I was just a worker in a little 3 man office in Columbus, pay no attention". The thing about Kasich was even his internal polling showed the more he talked the less people liked him, so for the last 6 weeks of the election, he didn't make a lot of appearances and since he's a walking dumb and mean comment gaffe machine, he stopped answering off the cuff reporters' questions. Two weeks ago he told a meeting of all Ohio EPA workers that a state patrol officer who ticketed him in 2008 for not yielding to an emergency vehicle was "an idiot". When the cell phone video came out he had to walk it back, then apologize to the officer. The man is reckless and mean-spirited. Fun times if he speaks off the top of his head in the Ohio SB 5 debate. I think Ohio is already feeling the buyers' remorse.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:03 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:32 am
Posts: 19965
Location: FEMA Camp 17 -- Malibu (Hey! You! Get off the lawn!)
Occupation: Schadenfreude artist.
I wonder if the U.S. Attorneys in Wisconsin and Ohio are interested in the corruption and conflict of interest that has arisen from the Koch Brothers' employees -- the newly-elected governors of those two states -- taking their orders from and being more concerned about these billionaires than the people who elected them.

_________________
When there are a finite number of ways to screw something up, Orly Taitz will find an infinite number of ways to do so. (The Sternsig Rule.)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm
Posts: 6633
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
I wonder if the U.S. Attorneys in Wisconsin and Ohio are interested in the corruption and conflict of interest that has arisen from the Koch Brothers' employees -- the newly-elected governors of those two states -- taking their orders from and being more concerned about these billionaires than the people who elected them.


There's something in the WI bill that allows the state to sell its power plants to private companies and Ohio sits on a bunch of coal. Koch = Energy/ Coal, so it's easy to see how they'd be interested in buying a governor or two. That WI bill is chock full of provisions. I guess I'd better read Ohio SB5 and find out what other tasty nuggets it has besides union rights.

Edit: Well well, it's 475 pp. Anyone interested in slogging through it with me? Right off the bat I see a provision that allows the state to privatize the prisons. That's Kasich's answer to jobs is to eliminate state jobs.

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/BillText129/129_SB_5_PSC_Y.pdf


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:16 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:18 pm
Posts: 2423
Location: Paris, France
kimba wrote:
Quote:
Over at Democracy Now Matt Taibbi tells us thast Governor of Ohio, Kashic, used to work for Lehman Brothers.


This played large in the 2010 election in Ohio. Kasich refused to reveal how much his bonus was from Lehman Bros the year it collapsed. He was a senior VP but claimed " oh, I was just a worker in a little 3 man office in Columbus, pay no attention". The thing about Kasich was even his internal polling showed the more he talked the less people liked him, so for the last 6 weeks of the election, he didn't make a lot of appearances and since he's a walking dumb and mean comment gaffe machine, he stopped answering off the cuff reporters' questions. Two weeks ago he told a meeting of all Ohio EPA workers that a state patrol officer who ticketed him in 2008 for not yielding to an emergency vehicle was "an idiot". When the cell phone video came out he had to walk it back, then apologize to the officer. The man is reckless and mean-spirited. Fun times if he speaks off the top of his head in the Ohio SB 5 debate. I think Ohio is already feeling the buyers' remorse.


Actually, a place like Lehman made virtually everyone a hoity-toity title holder. I can easily see a peon in a small satellite office having a title like Senior VP. It looks better on prospecting letters so financial firms are notorious for this. I know a glorified mail clerk who became an assistant VP merely by hanging around long enough. And branch employees, even Senior VPs often get no bonus at all. So, as annoying as he may be I have to give him a pass on the Lehman stuff.

_________________
Incorrible. Please do not incorrige me.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:11 pm
Posts: 7502
Location: Outa da doghaus and I ain't goin' back!
Occupation: Arf! Arf! Arooooooooooo! (Get that damned kitty!)
I got onto these patriot mailing lists. Mostly now I delete them on site. The crazy is just so predictable, so sick, so bigoted, so wrong...So now I hears: "Leftist uprising threatens us all"

Quote:
What's happening in Wisconsin and spilling out to other
states across the nation is part of a leftist strategy
to fuel and expand their statist agenda ...

And fanning those flames is President Obama's Organizing
for America -- his grassroots organization that supports
his statist agenda.

Let's be clear. The Left WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY CUTS IN
GOVERNMENT SPENDING, and they are employing a new "statist
uprising" strategy in an attempt to intimidate and
ultimately defeat those who are calling for fiscal
responsibility and cuts to spending!

Patriot, a form of what is happening in Wisconsin
could bubble-up on Capitol Hill next week when the
Senate begins debating the deep cuts made in the House
budget bill.


Oh in case you needed to know, "Patriot Action Network is the Official Social Action Network of Grassfire Nation http://www.PatriotActionNetwork.com"

And if you care about Amurca, you gotta sign the petition.
http://www.grassfire.com/149/petition.asp?ref_id=500064

Everybody send me cash. I gotta build me a bunker and stuff.
:-bd

_________________
  • I know that there are no limits to which the powers of privilege will not go to keep the workers in slavery.
  • My friends, it is solidarity of labor we want. We do not want to find fault with each other, but to solidify our forces and say to each other: “We must be together; our masters are joined together and we must do the same thing.”
  • Pray for the dead, and fight like hell for the living.
—Mother Jones


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:27 pm
Posts: 7272
Location: Intersection of Godwin Dr. and Poe Blvd.
Occupation: Personal security.
Image

Feb 28 2011 New Yorker.

_________________
ImageImageImageImage
"You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of unsound mind, a dimension of unreality, a dimension of really, really bad law. You've just crossed over into the Orly Zone." -- Geritol

ZOOM IN, BABY. IT'S ALL WRONG.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm
Posts: 5490
Quote:
February 23, 2011 09:45 PM
Former Wisconsin AG to Recommend Walker be Investigated for Ethics Violations to Accountability Board
By Heather


Looks like Scott Walker's prank phone call may end up getting him in some trouble with their Government Accountability Board and his remarks about bringing in agent provocateurs to cause trouble at the rallies isn't sitting too well with the voters. Ed Schultz discussed Governor Walker's conversation with the fake Koch brother with The Nation's John Nichols who filled Ed in on some of the latest developments in Wisconsin.

Quote:
NICHOLS: The governor’s not walking a fine line Ed. He tripped off the cliff. The fact of the matter is that Wisconsin has the toughest ethics laws in the nation. We pride ourselves on that. That goes back more than a hundred years to the progressive era with Bob La Follette. Those ethics laws require that an elected official keep faith with the people of Wisconsin. Those statements raise deep concerns here in Madison and around the state.

The former Attorney General of Wisconsin, Peg Lautenschlager told me tonight that she is in the reviewing this, of the transcript of this conversation, for several hours found what she determined to be multiple ethics, election law and labor law violations. And she will tomorrow morning suggest that the state Government Accountability Board begin to review those ethics violations.


Ed Schultz asked Nichols if the Republicans running the state would allow the investigation to go forward.


more here: http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/hea ... end-walker

emphasis original


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm
Posts: 5490
Quote:
Wis. Assembly passes bill taking away union rights, sends measure to Senate
By TODD RICHMOND , Associated Press
Last update: February 25, 2011 - 5:20 AM


MADISON, Wis. - Republicans in the Wisconsin Assembly took the first significant action on their plan to strip collective bargaining rights from most public workers, abruptly passing the measure early Friday morning before sleep-deprived Democrats realized what was happening.

The vote ended three straight days of punishing debate in the Assembly. But the political standoff over the bill — and the monumental protests at the state Capitol against it — appear far from over.

The Assembly's vote sent the bill on to the Senate, but minority Democrats in that house have fled to Illinois to prevent a vote. No one knows when they will return from hiding. Republicans who control the chamber sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing.

"I applaud the Democrats in the Assembly for earnestly debating this bill and urge their counterparts in the state Senate to return to work and do the same," Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald, R-Horicon, said in a statement issued moments after the vote.


more here: http://www.startribune.com/local/116806433.html

emphasis mine


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:42 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm
Posts: 5490
Quote:
WI Assembly GOP Passes Walker Budget In Surprise Vote -- Dems Chant "Shame!"
Eric Kleefeld | February 25, 2011, 3:27AM


MADISON, WI -- The Wisconsin State Assembly has just passed Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill, including its controversial provisions to eliminate almost all collective bargaining rights for public employee unions as well as many other provisions to weaken union organizing.

After much buildup in the 61-hour debate -- of Republicans wanting things to be over, and Democrats railing against Republicans who they said would cut off debate -- at about 1 AM Speaker Pro Tempore Bill Kramer (R) announced that he would hear a voice vote for a roll call on final passage. Immediately, the majority Republicans shouted their ayes, and the Democrats were booing, as they tried to be recognized to demand a separate motion to cut off debate.

Then Kramer called the vote. Within seconds, the digital vote system on the wall announced 51 ayes and 17 nays, and voting was suddenly closed. With a total of 96 members, that got to a majority for the bill but left 28 members who hadn't had a chance yet to vote.

At that point, the Democrats got up, chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" and similar exclamations, as the Republicans filed out of the room.


more here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011 ... p?ref=fpa#

emphasis mine

This guy makes Perry look honest. :-k Well, maybe not.


Quote:
Mysterious Conservative Poll Of Walker's Budget Plan Hits Wisconsin
Evan McMorris-Santoro | February 24, 2011, 6:15PM306


A poll purporting to show broad support in Wisconsin for Gov. Scott Walker's (R) budget proposal made the rounds today, popping up on at least one Wisconsin news site and getting a mention on MSNBC.

"BREAKING: Poll Shows 71% of Wisconsinites Think Walker's Budget Changes are 'Fair'," screamed the release from the poll's sponsor, the conservative-leaning Franklin Center For Government and Public Integrity, based in Alexandria, VA. More on all that from TPM's Eric Lach here.

The poll was quickly picked up, making an appearance on the WisPolitics.com news site and getting a shoutout on MSNBC dayside.

There's only one problem: the poll actually shows more Wisconsin voters are on the side of the pro-union protesters and their Democratic allies than back Walker and the Republicans.


more here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011 ... ref=dcblt#

emphasis mine

Quote:
Walker At Press Conference: I Said That 'Crushing The Bastards' Wasn't A Good Idea
Eric Kleefeld | February 24, 2011, 8:34PM


MADISON, WI -- Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) just finished a press conference early this evening, in which he continued to warn about the specter of layoffs of government workers if his budget does not pass, and called upon the absent state Senate Democrats to return to the state. Predictably, he continued to face questions over the biggest story of the last two days: His phone call with blogger Ian Murphy, who was posing as Republican financier David Koch.

Walker took five questions in total. The first two questions were both about the "Koch" call, followed by three questions about the budget bill itself and his efforts to end collective bargaining for public sector workers.

In his initial speech, Walker said he had spoken to a small businessman in Wisconsin, who was concerned about the strife going on in the state, and who asked why Walker did not simply take the deal of the increased contributions by public employees to their health care and pensions.

"You look at what's happened at the local level over the past two weeks with this measure...actions speak louder than words," Walker said. "Over the past few weeks we've seen in cities and counties and schools in a rush to pass contracts that don't have a 5 percent and 12 percent contributions. In fact, what I've seen, they have no additional contributions for pensions and health care costs for government employees. In fact, in some cases they've rammed through contracts that have an increase in the salaries."


more here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011 ... ref=dcblt#


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:11 pm
Posts: 7502
Location: Outa da doghaus and I ain't goin' back!
Occupation: Arf! Arf! Arooooooooooo! (Get that damned kitty!)
Watch live
http://www.wiseye.org/Home/AirVideoStream.aspx

_________________
  • I know that there are no limits to which the powers of privilege will not go to keep the workers in slavery.
  • My friends, it is solidarity of labor we want. We do not want to find fault with each other, but to solidify our forces and say to each other: “We must be together; our masters are joined together and we must do the same thing.”
  • Pray for the dead, and fight like hell for the living.
—Mother Jones


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:11 pm
Posts: 7502
Location: Outa da doghaus and I ain't goin' back!
Occupation: Arf! Arf! Arooooooooooo! (Get that damned kitty!)
Plutodog wrote:

Supercilious Reethug Senators are lying their sanctimonious arses off at the link above. :roll:

It's safe to do so with the Dems out of town.

_________________
  • I know that there are no limits to which the powers of privilege will not go to keep the workers in slavery.
  • My friends, it is solidarity of labor we want. We do not want to find fault with each other, but to solidify our forces and say to each other: “We must be together; our masters are joined together and we must do the same thing.”
  • Pray for the dead, and fight like hell for the living.
—Mother Jones


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:09 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm
Posts: 5490
Posted at 1:49 PM ET, 02/25/2011
Public employees not such an easy scapegoat after all
By Greg Sargent


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-l ... _an_e.html


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 433 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 ... 18  Next   

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
View new posts | View active topics



Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group